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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
Um bowser is having the same season point wise and is a way better plus minus. How is that a slump?

On pace for over 30 at 82 and just under a point per game. Biggest difference is he is plus what 7 instead of a dash 5. Better season

- Jkuzzi

The team as a whole is better and yes he is putting up the points but if you watch him closely he is not as fast or dynamic as he was last year. Individually some of his skills appear to have taken a small step back. Could just be chalked up to a long recovery time for his back though
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
We also already have an undersized dynamic player of his calibre. I don't want a team full of small forwards.
- golfingsince

New NHL in the years to come.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
No player is worth losing your entire future over.
- thundachunk



If Gillis would have laid one of those babies down we could have lost the likes of Gaunce Schroeder McNally and Jensen . What would we have done then?
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
I'm asking the questions, flood pants!

Yes, depends on the money offered.
$8,118,642 to $10,148,302 - Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick

I am on the fence, that's a lot of picks but Laine and Marner both seem to be the high end elite wingers we need.

- neem55

I think either could get over 10.2 mill offers. It’s what it would take to not get matched.
Now STFU
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
If Gillis would have laid one of those babies down we could have lost the likes of Gaunce Schroeder McNally and Jensen . What would we have done then?
- VANTEL

Shea Weber
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 1 @ 6:42 PM ET
I can think of Vanek, Weber and Kesler off the top of my head so there's been more than 1 in the past 23 years.
- golfingsince

Kesler, Vanek, Hjalmersson, Penner and Weber are the only ones in the 2000's. None since 2010.

Edit: there was a fair few in the 90's
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
I think either could get over 10.2 mill offers. It’s what it would take to not get matched.
Now STFU

- Supirium99

I'm not so sure that's true. It's as much as the highest paid winger in hockey is getting.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
Interesting to hear JB talk about Gaudette, he basically said his defensive game is fine at the NHL level but he doesn't want to keep him up because he thinks his offense will develop better down in Utica.

Kind of the opposite mentality as with Goldobin

- NorthNuck

Heard of waivers ?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Feb 1 @ 6:44 PM ET
If Gillis would have laid one of those babies down we could have lost the likes of Gaunce Schroeder McNally and Jensen . What would we have done then?
- VANTEL

He cant help it he was inept with drafting.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:45 PM ET
Try not to ruin the conversation in here like you do with every other blog.
- manvanfan

You are an idiot. Finally I can quote you
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 1 @ 6:46 PM ET
He cant help it he was inept with drafting.
- thundachunk


I just looked at his drafting history . Woof
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:46 PM ET

Airing of grievances needs a public forum.

- Marwood

Agreed, thank you. Too many snowflakes
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 1 @ 6:50 PM ET
New NHL in the years to come.
- manvanfan


We'll see. It's one thing to have one or two of those players, another completely to have a roster full of them.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:53 PM ET

- NorthNuck

Ya - (frank)ing iPhone on a plane
Supirium99
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Brantford, ON
Joined: 10.25.2014

Feb 1 @ 6:53 PM ET
I'm not so sure that's true. It's as much as the highest paid winger in hockey is getting.
- neem55

Laine is slumping yes but everyone sees what he brings and at his age he’s still going to get better. He’s getting a huge offer. I see that easily. Marner is also a phenomenal player. The leafs cap woes are the kicker here. They won’t be able to match that and, living in the heart of leaf land I hear it every damn day how he’s Toronto’s MVP. So less than that amount Toronto matches as bad as their cap situation will be.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 1 @ 6:55 PM ET
I think either could get over 10.2 mill offers. It’s what it would take to not get matched.
Now STFU

- Supirium99

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 1 @ 6:55 PM ET
Kesler, Vanek, Hjalmersson, Penner and Weber are the only ones in the 2000's. None since 2010.

Edit: there was a fair few in the 90's

- neem55

https://en.wikipedia.org/..._have_signed_offer_sheets
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 1 @ 6:58 PM ET
Laine is slumping yes but everyone sees what he brings and at his age he’s still going to get better. He’s getting a huge offer. I see that easily. Marner is also a phenomenal player. The leafs cap woes are the kicker here. They won’t be able to match that and, living in the heart of leaf land I hear it every damn day how he’s Toronto’s MVP. So less than that amount Toronto matches as bad as their cap situation will be.
- Supirium99

I think 10 to either team is a lot to match, I agree it's likely that either would match but I honestly think it could go either way. Matthews is going to get 12-13. Jets are up against the cap too, make no mistake. puts them in an odd position to pay Laine more than Wheeler or Shiefele.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Feb 1 @ 6:59 PM ET
Heard of waivers ?
- CanuckDon

If you're talking about Gaudette, send Schaller down.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 1 @ 7:00 PM ET
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NHL_players_who_have_signed_offer_sheets
- golfingsince

Huh, didn't know about O'rielly, well looks like you're right on this one. There hasn't been one in 6 years, but a few more before that than I was thinking.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Feb 1 @ 7:01 PM ET
Basically i'd sign somebody to an offer sheet though, if for no other reason than driving their price up a bit.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
Not that much
- manvanfan


10.5 and above is 4 1st. 8.5 to 10.499 I believe it two 1sts. One 2nd. One 3rd
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Feb 1 @ 7:22 PM ET
If you're talking about Gaudette, send Schaller down.
- NorthNuck

I’m talking about Goldobin. They don’t want to expose him
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 1 @ 7:24 PM ET
10.5 and above is 4 1st. 8.5 to 10.499 I believe it two 1sts. One 2nd. One 3rd
- Codes1087

That would be more reasonable. That's a lot of draft picks. You better not need them to round out the team to win a cup.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 1 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well done Carol. We are so lucky to have you.

'If you were Jim Benning, would you have traded Tanev for prospects Carl Grundstrom and Sean Durzi and the Leafs' 2019 first-rounder—which could have given Vancouver two first-round draft picks when they host the draft here in Vancouver in June?'

Yes.

And I would move Edler as well with the notion that he can re-sign here in the summer.

We could get amazing future assets for a healthy Edler/Tanev right now.

I get what they bring...but we would be fine.
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