Why would he go on LTIR? He loves playing and he's healthy.
- LeftCoaster

Because Leaf fans want him to.

Because Leaf fans want him to.
- golfingsince

The only plausible move I see where he'd be willing to uproot his family is SJ taking him back for one last year.

Because Leaf fans want him to.
- golfingsince

If they don't want him anymore.

Van and Tor should make a trade.

Marleau and Johnsson, STL 4th

for

Granlund and 2- 6th round picks.

I had forgotten all about Jessie Blacker.

It would be easy to mock his 1-game NHL career, but that's still a helluva achievement.
- Atomic Wedgie

Better than Lefty

Because Leaf fans want him to.
- golfingsince

Sounds familiar to a situation in Vancouver with a certain goalie

Retirement, trade contract to Arizona with a 2nd rounder for a 7th rounder.

Or LTIR (Robidas Island)

Or...

I have asked a few journalists this, and never got a straight answer: 35+ applies to retirement. But does it apply to mutual termination of contract?

No mention of 35+ conditions in 2013 CBA. Very vague wording in 2005 CBA.

In any event, there are options. And as I stated up top, that contract was specifically structured for a reason.
- Atomic Wedgie

You should like our very own no cap problems crackers.

I'm no CBA expert but I believe like Datsyuk's contract it goes on till it's over.

Which Arizona way overpaid to take on that contract. Move up 4 spots and give away a 2nd to Det.
- manvanfan

So keep in mind this is a wild Wedgie theory, and there is a good chance I am wrong on this.

But...

I don't think they ever put Datsyuk on waivers (or Hossa) for purposes of mutual termination of contract. So they still have valid contracts, which count against cap.

As far as I know, 35+ rules are from 2005 CBA, which was written in 20 minutes, and has several holes in it.

Could mutual termination be a loophole?

I honestly don't know.

So keep in mind this is a wild Wedgie theory, and there is a good chance I am wrong on this.

But...

I don't think they ever put Datsyuk on waivers (or Hossa) for purposes of mutual termination of contract. So they still have valid contracts, which count against cap.

As far as I know, 35+ rules are from 2005 CBA, which was written in 20 minutes, and has several holes in it.

Could mutual termination be a loophole?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

You're wrong. But it's the leaves so they may make up a new rule as they go.

Why would he go on LTIR? He loves playing and he's healthy.
- LeftCoaster

All I'm saying is the contract was structured ro make walking away an option.

There's really no other conclusion you can draw.

You're wrong. But it's the leaves so they may make up a new rule as they go.
- Pres.cup

Luckily we will have Canucks fans to whine about it for years.

All I'm saying is the contract was structured ro make walking away an option.

There's really no other conclusion you can draw.
- Atomic Wedgie

How about he's never won a Cup, the Leafs have a good team, he wants to play and win?

Retirement, trade contract to Arizona with a 2nd rounder for a 7th rounder.

Or LTIR (Robidas Island)

Or...

I have asked a few journalists this, and never got a straight answer: 35+ applies to retirement. But does it apply to mutual termination of contract?

No mention of 35+ conditions in 2013 CBA. Very vague wording in 2005 CBA.

In any event, there are options. And as I stated up top, that contract was specifically structured for a reason.
- Atomic Wedgie

Didn't Yotes GM say two days ago he may be heavy on an offer sheet? He would be the dumbest GM if he offer sheeted Matthews and then offered Leafs cap relief so they weren't up against the wall.

All I'm saying is the contract was structured ro make walking away an option.

There's really no other conclusion you can draw.
- Atomic Wedgie

Marleau is greedy and wants his money sooner rather than later ?

Because Leaf fans want him to.
- golfingsince

The chemistry in the dressing room is good, they shouldn't mess with it.

If they don't want him anymore.

Van and Tor should make a trade.

Marleau and Johnsson, STL 4th

for

Granlund and 2- 6th round picks.
- manvanfan

Granlund and Gagner

The only plausible move I see where he'd be willing to uproot his family is SJ taking him back for one last year.
- LeftCoaster

Agreed. It's Toronto, back to San Jose, or back to San Jose in retirement.

No other options.

So keep in mind this is a wild Wedgie theory, and there is a good chance I am wrong on this.

But...

I don't think they ever put Datsyuk on waivers (or Hossa) for purposes of mutual termination of contract. So they still have valid contracts, which count against cap.

As far as I know, 35+ rules are from 2005 CBA, which was written in 20 minutes, and has several holes in it.

Could mutual termination be a loophole?

I honestly don't know.
- Atomic Wedgie

You dont think someone would have thought to use that by now if it was a loophole

Didn't Yotes GM say two days ago he may be heavy on an offer sheet? He would be the dumbest GM if he offer sheeted Matthews and then offered Leafs cap relief so they weren't up against the wall.
- VANTEL

Well, that would be tampering, so no, he never said anything like that.

If you move both of them then what’s your D look like next year ?
- Redmile247

We'd be ok.

Agreed. It's Toronto, back to San Jose, or back to San Jose in retirement.

No other options.
- Atomic Wedgie

Why would he retire, you're seriously grasping at whatever to fit your conspiracy theories. Give it up. The guy is a good player on a good team and he wants to win a Cup. He's not walking away from a million dollars because you think it's a good idea.

Well, that would be tampering, so no, he never said anything like that.
- Atomic Wedgie

He said he has a feeling there may be a few offer sheets this year so that is not tampering. He may want to bring Auston home

You dont think someone would have thought to use that by now if it was a loophole
- manvanfan

Kovlchuck

Why would he retire, you're seriously grasping at whatever to fit your conspiracy theories. Give it up. The guy is a good player and he wants to win a Cup. He's not walking away from a million dollars because you think it's a good idea.
- LeftCoaster

Seems like a pretty key cog on in the room and the kids really like him. I agree he wants to win, if they do I guess there's a chance he does but I don't see it either.

Why would he retire, you're seriously grasping at whatever to fit your conspiracy theories. Give it up. The guy is a good player on a good team and he wants to win a Cup. He's not walking away from a million dollars because you think it's a good idea.
- LeftCoaster

You seem to keep missing the word "option."

Kovlchuck
- Pres.cup

Wasnt a 35+ contract and NJ is paying 250,000 per year for 12 years. 🤑