You know you can get yourself a good T-bone steak by sticking your head up a bulls ass but wouldn’t you rather take the butchers word for it?
- thundachunk

Unless toronto retains nobody wants that contract for pretty boy. He's overrated and overpaid.
- Pres.cup

I'm not terribly worried.

Take a look at Marleau's contract - they designed it so he won't be on the books next season.

Unless toronto retains nobody wants that contract for pretty boy. He's overrated and overpaid.
- Pres.cup

I'd love him on Horvat's wing, but not at that price, they gave him way too much

Keep an eye on your goalie starts in the pool this week . Make sure you get your three games in. I don't think there is a lot of games tomorrow
- VANTEL

Line up set.

Recipe? I cook all the time but never bothered to learned how to make tortillas. Thanks a ton
- Jkuzzi

It's called the internet, I know you figured it out already because you already asked the question, now just ask the Google...

Remi Elie 1 points in 16 games with Buffalo on waivers

Martin Marincin 2 points in 10 games with Toronto on waivers.

I'd love him on Horvat's wing, but not at that price, they gave him way too much
- LeftCoaster

They gave him $1M/year too much.

I personally woud have sat him for the year, but oddly enough, they didn't ask my opinion.

I'm not terribly worried.

Take a look at Marleau's contract - they designed it so he won't be on the books next season.
- Atomic Wedgie

How so? What do you mean?

They gave him $1M/year too much.

I personally woud have sat him for the year, but oddly enough, they didn't ask my opinion.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think sitting for a full season would have ruined him. The games he missed pretty much has so far.

Remi Elie 1 points in 16 games with Buffalo on waivers

Martin Marincin 2 points in 10 games with Toronto on waivers.
- manvanfan

Marancin is really good - it would be a damn shame to lose that contract off our 50-contract limit.

But if Vancouver wants him...

Marancin is really good - it would be a damn shame to lose that contract off our 50-contract limit.

But if Vancouver wants him...
- Atomic Wedgie

Activiting someone from IR? Cap has TO listed as 12 F 9 D and now you've sent down Marincin. Leave's a spot open.

Marancin is really good - it would be a damn shame to lose that contract off our 50-contract limit.

But if Vancouver wants him...
- Atomic Wedgie

It could help to erase a little of the pain left from COrrado's departure.

How so? What do you mean?
- manvanfan

Cap hit of $6.25M.

3rd year of deal actual salary of $4.25M:

- $3M on July 1st
- $1.25M to play 82 games

So on a 3-year $18.75M contract, he only loses $1.25M by not playing the third year.

That's not by accident.

Marancin is really good - it would be a damn shame to lose that contract off our 50-contract limit.

But if Vancouver wants him...
- Atomic Wedgie

I read two weeks back that Benning has his eye on two college free agents . If they sign Hughes also that will bring us up to 48 and Benning has not been noted for going dumpster diving in free agency . I am not counting on a claim but who knows.

Activiting someone from IR? Cap has TO listed as 12 F 9 D and now you've sent down Marincin. Leave's a spot open.
- manvanfan

They added Muzzin without trading a roster player.

Someone has to go.

Cap hit of $6.25M.

3rd year of deal actual salary of $4.25M:

- $3M on July 1st
- $1.25M to play 82 games

So on a 3-year $18.75M contract, he only loses $1.25M by not playing the third year.

That's not by accident.
- Atomic Wedgie

Are you talking LTIR or buyout? He signed as a plus 35 contract so cap hit is still 6.25.

Cap hit of $6.25M.

3rd year of deal actual salary of $4.25M:

- $3M on July 1st
- $1.25M to play 82 games

So on a 3-year $18.75M contract, he only loses $1.25M by not playing the third year.

That's not by accident.
- Atomic Wedgie

Doesn't the 6.2 still count against the cap?

It could help to erase a little of the pain left from COrrado's departure.
- 1970vintage

I always wonder if guys like Marincin are a conscious choice by GMs.

He's franking terrible, so you have no guilt whatsoever sending him to the pressbox every night. You'd rather do that to a pylon than a guy with an actual future - who you keep in the AHL to develop.

Are you talking LTIR or buyout? He signed as a plus 35 contract so cap hit is still 6.25.
- manvanfan

Retirement, trade contract to Arizona with a 2nd rounder for a 7th rounder.

Or LTIR (Robidas Island)

Or...

I have asked a few journalists this, and never got a straight answer: 35+ applies to retirement. But does it apply to mutual termination of contract?

No mention of 35+ conditions in 2013 CBA. Very vague wording in 2005 CBA.

In any event, there are options. And as I stated up top, that contract was specifically structured for a reason.

Retirement, trade contract to Arizona with a 2nd rounder for a 7th rounder.

Or LTIR (Robidas Island)

Or...

I have asked a few journalists this, and never got a straight answer: 35+ applies to retirement. But does it apply to mutual termination of contract?

No mention of 35+ conditions in 2013 CBA. Very vague wording in 2005 CBA.

In any event, there are options. And as I stated up top, that contract was specifically structured for a reason.
- Atomic Wedgie

You're stuck with that like we're stuck with the Eriksson contract, just live with it, it ain't goin nowhere. Put the fatty mcpipedream down.

You're stuck with that like we're stuck with the Eriksson contract, just live with it, it ain't goin nowhere. Put the fatty mcpipedream down.
- LeftCoaster

Was Chicago stuck with the Hossa contract?

Were the Leafs stuck with the Lupul contract?

Go to Google Maps and search for "Robidas Island."

I always wonder if guys like Marincin are a conscious choice by GMs.

He's franking terrible, so you have no guilt whatsoever sending him to the pressbox every night. You'd rather do that to a pylon than a guy with an actual future - who you keep in the AHL to develop.
- Atomic Wedgie

According to prock Marincin and Blacker are future HHOFers.

Retirement, trade contract to Arizona with a 2nd rounder for a 7th rounder.

Or LTIR (Robidas Island)

Or...

I have asked a few journalists this, and never got a straight answer: 35+ applies to retirement. But does it apply to mutual termination of contract?

No mention of 35+ conditions in 2013 CBA. Very vague wording in 2005 CBA.

In any event, there are options. And as I stated up top, that contract was specifically structured for a reason.
- Atomic Wedgie

I'm no CBA expert but I believe like Datsyuk's contract it goes on till it's over.

Which Arizona way overpaid to take on that contract. Move up 4 spots and give away a 2nd to Det.

Was Detroit stuck with the Hossa contract?

Were the Leafs stuck with the Lupul contract?

Go to Google Maps and search for "Robidas Island."
- Atomic Wedgie

Why would he go on LTIR? He loves playing and he's healthy.

According to prock Marincin and Blacker are future HHOFers.
- 1970vintage

I had forgotten all about Jessie Blacker.

It would be easy to mock his 1-game NHL career, but that's still a helluva achievement.