Oh I will ,don't worry . Think the team has played better since Q overdue dismissal .Trades look better now that Stan does not have to work with one hand tied behind his back ,by Q
- oldduffman

This shtick is getting old.

Poor Stan had to work with a "hand tied behind his back" in Q. So lemme ask you, does Q get credit for the "good moves" Bowman made? Oduya? Frolik? Vermette?

I am just trying to figure out the narrative where ALL the blame is placed on one man and hilariously, the GM is absolved of ALL moves made, well except the good ones (I guess).

The team would have probably had a good streak or two with Q. It's the NHL in 2018-2019, no team is going to go 8-65-9. At some point the Hawks would win some games because of superior tending, play a team having an off night or even have a few good games themselves, possibly all in a row.

Another thing you fail to mention in your never-ending agenda is you fail to admit that the team may be playing better because the now-healthy Murphy and the newly arrived Dahlstrom have entered the lineup since Q left.

I see nothing from this new coach that impresses me, silly line combos, 7 D-men, burning Patrick Kane into a crisp with obscene ice times, even in games where that ice allotment isn't really conducive to winning hockey. Duncan Keith is CLEARLY irritated with things as his interview after the first period will attests to, then he rolls a -5. Nice "coaching" to inspire one of your main leaders.

Again, it IS more than coaching, but it was ALSO more than coaching when Q was here. You fail to understand that. the fact of the matter is this is a bad hockey team. YES, they have a couple great players, some other solid support guys, but by and large this is a bottom feeder team, this despite having "two Patrick Kanes" on the ice with the constant double shifting. Makes no difference, it's still a bad team with limited talented, especially on the blue line. And I am sorry Bowman deserves a share in the blame of that. Bowman OWNS this poop period. The buck stops with the GM or else one could never be fired because "the coach had my hand tied behind my back". What a nice get out of jail free card there. That said, I have liked a couple of his recent trades, but he has a long ways to go to right this ship. I am sure if he fails on that endeavor we can blame Q.

This shtick is getting old.

Poor Stan had to work with a "hand tied behind his back" in Q. So lemme ask you, does Q get credit for the "good moves" Bowman made? Oduya? Frolik? Vermette?

I am just trying to figure out the narrative where ALL the blame is placed on one man and hilariously, the GM is absolved of ALL moves made, well except the good ones (I guess).

The team would have probably had a good streak or two with Q. It's the NHL in 2018-2019, no team is going to go 8-65-9. At some point the Hawks would win some games because of superior tending, play a team having an off night or even have a few good games themselves, possibly all in a row.

Another thing you fail to mention in your never-ending agenda is you fail to admit that the team may be playing better because the now-healthy Murphy and the newly arrived Dahlstrom have entered the lineup since Q left.

I see nothing from this new coach that impresses me, silly line combos, 7 D-men, burning Patrick Kane into a crisp with obscene ice times, even in games where that ice allotment isn't really conducive to winning hockey. Duncan Keith is CLEARLY irritated with things as his interview after the first period will attests to, then he rolls a -5. Nice "coaching" to inspire one of your main leaders.

Again, it IS more than coaching, but it was ALSO more than coaching when Q was here. You fail to understand that. the fact of the matter is this is a bad hockey team. YES, they have a couple great players, some other solid support guys, but by and large this is a bottom feeder team, this despite having "two Patrick Kanes" on the ice with the constant double shifting. Makes no difference, it's still a bad team with limited talented, especially on the blue line. And I am sorry Bowman deserves a share in the blame of that. Bowman OWNS this poop period. The buck stops with the GM or else one could never be fired because "the coach had my hand tied behind my back". What a nice get out of jail free card there. That said, I have liked a couple of his recent trades, but he has a long ways to go to right this ship. I am sure if he fails on that endeavor we can blame Q.
- kwolf68

Amen.

Anyone who thinks acquiring Panarin, Stone, Dutch etc. will make one iota of difference to this team isn't paying attention. The Hawks are 3 or 4 defenseman away from icing a good defense. Their goaltending situation is questionable at best. There is no depth in the forward ranks and other than Kane, Toews and ADB there are no real top 6 forwards.

Bowman is probably caught between a rock and a hard place, I'm sure he understands the team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, but I'm betting there is pressure from management to try to push for the playoffs. The problem is, the longer the rebuild is delayed, the longer before the Hawks have a chance to start competing first for respectability, then for the playoffs then for the cup.

It's time to rebuild!

Ooooh f***, that's a crack baby!
- I Am The Breadman

Wow, if he’s here who’s running hell amirite?!

Wow. Rough game.

My highlight - Gustafsson being benched for the 3rd after that awful play on the 6th goal.

Absolutely disgracful effort.

I'll have more in the AM.
- Justin Lowe

Yes and hopefully it forces JC to finally bump Gus down to 3rd pairing with Tugboat #7

This shtick is getting old.

Poor Stan had to work with a "hand tied behind his back" in Q. So lemme ask you, does Q get credit for the "good moves" Bowman made? Oduya? Frolik? Vermette?

I am just trying to figure out the narrative where ALL the blame is placed on one man and hilariously, the GM is absolved of ALL moves made, well except the good ones (I guess).

The team would have probably had a good streak or two with Q. It's the NHL in 2018-2019, no team is going to go 8-65-9. At some point the Hawks would win some games because of superior tending, play a team having an off night or even have a few good games themselves, possibly all in a row.

Another thing you fail to mention in your never-ending agenda is you fail to admit that the team may be playing better because the now-healthy Murphy and the newly arrived Dahlstrom have entered the lineup since Q left.

I see nothing from this new coach that impresses me, silly line combos, 7 D-men, burning Patrick Kane into a crisp with obscene ice times, even in games where that ice allotment isn't really conducive to winning hockey. Duncan Keith is CLEARLY irritated with things as his interview after the first period will attests to, then he rolls a -5. Nice "coaching" to inspire one of your main leaders.

Again, it IS more than coaching, but it was ALSO more than coaching when Q was here. You fail to understand that. the fact of the matter is this is a bad hockey team. YES, they have a couple great players, some other solid support guys, but by and large this is a bottom feeder team, this despite having "two Patrick Kanes" on the ice with the constant double shifting. Makes no difference, it's still a bad team with limited talented, especially on the blue line. And I am sorry Bowman deserves a share in the blame of that. Bowman OWNS this poop period. The buck stops with the GM or else one could never be fired because "the coach had my hand tied behind my back". What a nice get out of jail free card there. That said, I have liked a couple of his recent trades, but he has a long ways to go to right this ship. I am sure if he fails on that endeavor we can blame Q.
- kwolf68

THIS!!!!!!

Hey Wolf don't let him get to you. Some posters on here need to take some time off of this site. Way too much nonsense

Just a few random ramblings:

Ecstatic to see Colliton finally make a statement to Gustafsson. Gus gives up on too many plays defensively and is ultra focused on padding his stat sheet. If he was making an effort to improve himself defensively he would not be in this position.

Cam Ward can keep the bench warm as much as possible the rest of the way. Let Delia take the reins and work through adversity when it hits. Ward just isn't good enough to play in the NHL anymore.

Joki needs to be playing 20 minutes a night on Keiths right side. This needs to be set in stone and the coaching staff needs to stop screwing around with it. No more of this 7 d-men business either.

Not sure if anyone noticed during the intermission interview, but Eddie O started with "I know you like playing with guys like Joki and Gustafsson" and Keith responded by talking about how great it is to have a young kid trying to learn like Jokiharju. He did not mention Gustafsson.
- Hawks_49

I think you see this next game.

I think you may even see Jokiharju tried out on the first PP. With Gustafsson sitting next game.

Wow, if he’s here who’s running hell amirite?!
- Assman22

Yeah, you right. Hahaha!

I think you see this next game.

I think you may even see Jokiharju tried out on the first PP. With Gustafsson sitting next game.
- Justin Lowe

We’re sitting as 4th worst in the league in pts. They may use Gus/Ward to keep the tank on. Sadly, we’ve only just begun to suck this season.

Anyone who thinks acquiring Panarin, Stone, Dutch etc. will make one iota of difference to this team isn't paying attention. The Hawks are 3 or 4 defenseman away from icing a good defense. Their goaltending situation is questionable at best. There is no depth in the forward ranks and other than Kane, Toews and ADB there are no real top 6 forwards.

Bowman is probably caught between a rock and a hard place, I'm sure he understands the team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, but I'm betting there is pressure from management to try to push for the playoffs. The problem is, the longer the rebuild is delayed, the longer before the Hawks have a chance to start competing first for respectability, then for the playoffs then for the cup.

It's time to rebuild!
- paulr

I said that 2 days ago. 1 major signing changes nothing and it can be better spent elsewhere. Maybe the stats of 20+ goals. We couldn't win with 5. Maybe a spot higher in the standings, and drafting 7th instead of 6th.

I think you see this next game.

I think you may even see Jokiharju tried out on the first PP. With Gustafsson sitting next game.
- Justin Lowe

Accountability starts ... now!

Anyone who thinks acquiring Panarin, Stone, Dutch etc. will make one iota of difference to this team isn't paying attention. The Hawks are 3 or 4 defenseman away from icing a good defense. Their goaltending situation is questionable at best. There is no depth in the forward ranks and other than Kane, Toews and ADB there are no real top 6 forwards.

Bowman is probably caught between a rock and a hard place, I'm sure he understands the team needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, but I'm betting there is pressure from management to try to push for the playoffs. The problem is, the longer the rebuild is delayed, the longer before the Hawks have a chance to start competing first for respectability, then for the playoffs then for the cup.

It's time to rebuild!
- paulr

Couldn't agree more, time to get some hockey players for this team.

This shtick is getting old.

Poor Stan had to work with a "hand tied behind his back" in Q. So lemme ask you, does Q get credit for the "good moves" Bowman made? Oduya? Frolik? Vermette?

I am just trying to figure out the narrative where ALL the blame is placed on one man and hilariously, the GM is absolved of ALL moves made, well except the good ones (I guess).

The team would have probably had a good streak or two with Q. It's the NHL in 2018-2019, no team is going to go 8-65-9. At some point the Hawks would win some games because of superior tending, play a team having an off night or even have a few good games themselves, possibly all in a row.

Another thing you fail to mention in your never-ending agenda is you fail to admit that the team may be playing better because the now-healthy Murphy and the newly arrived Dahlstrom have entered the lineup since Q left.

I see nothing from this new coach that impresses me, silly line combos, 7 D-men, burning Patrick Kane into a crisp with obscene ice times, even in games where that ice allotment isn't really conducive to winning hockey. Duncan Keith is CLEARLY irritated with things as his interview after the first period will attests to, then he rolls a -5. Nice "coaching" to inspire one of your main leaders.

Again, it IS more than coaching, but it was ALSO more than coaching when Q was here. You fail to understand that. the fact of the matter is this is a bad hockey team. YES, they have a couple great players, some other solid support guys, but by and large this is a bottom feeder team, this despite having "two Patrick Kanes" on the ice with the constant double shifting. Makes no difference, it's still a bad team with limited talented, especially on the blue line. And I am sorry Bowman deserves a share in the blame of that. Bowman OWNS this poop period. The buck stops with the GM or else one could never be fired because "the coach had my hand tied behind my back". What a nice get out of jail free card there. That said, I have liked a couple of his recent trades, but he has a long ways to go to right this ship. I am sure if he fails on that endeavor we can blame Q.
- kwolf68

EDM has put Puljujarvi on the block. With Stan picking up several former first round pedigree types, could he be next? Count me in. EDM is up against the cap and has Klefborn ($4.1 mil cap hit) due back soon from injury. Go get him Stan!

EDM has put Puljujarvi on the block. With Stan picking up several former first round pedigree types, could he be next? Count me in. EDM is up against the cap and has Klefborn ($4.1 mil cap hit) due back soon from injury. Go get him Stan!
- Assman22

It's crazy how bad hockey teams can be in cap trouble. McDavid must be regretting signing on long term.

It's crazy how bad hockey teams can be in cap trouble. McDavid must be regretting signing on long term.
- paulr

NYR want a 1st and Puljujarvi and more for Kreider and I thought we overvalued our players lol

Just a few random ramblings:

Ecstatic to see Colliton finally make a statement to Gustafsson. Gus gives up on too many plays defensively and is ultra focused on padding his stat sheet. If he was making an effort to improve himself defensively he would not be in this position.

Cam Ward can keep the bench warm as much as possible the rest of the way. Let Delia take the reins and work through adversity when it hits. Ward just isn't good enough to play in the NHL anymore.

Joki needs to be playing 20 minutes a night on Keiths right side. This needs to be set in stone and the coaching staff needs to stop screwing around with it. No more of this 7 d-men business either.

Not sure if anyone noticed during the intermission interview, but Eddie O started with "I know you like playing with guys like Joki and Gustafsson" and Keith responded by talking about how great it is to have a young kid trying to learn like Jokiharju. He did not mention Gustafsson.
- Hawks_49

The best statement JC could make to Gustafsson is to healthy scratch him until he can convince Bowman to send him to Rockford, trade him or just release him. Dumbest hockey player in the NHL. No other coach in the league would put up with watching his act for more than a couple of games.

The best statement JC could make to Gustafsson is to healthy scratch him until he can convince Bowman to send him to Rockford, trade him or just release him. Dumbest hockey player in the NHL. No other coach in the league would put up with watching his act for more than a couple of games.
- RickJ

Speaking of dumb did you see Jake Gardiner and his lame attempt at battling for the puck? I have no idea how the Leafs expect to win with that defense and with Gardiner as one of their top defenders.

The problem with Gus, Gardiner, Leddy and guys of that ilk is you see so much raw talent, especially on the offensive side of the puck, you want to work with them to build a more complete game, trouble is they don't seem to be interested in putting in the hard work and collecting the bruises that go with it.

TANK MODE BABY!!

Let’s draft as high as possible

That’s all that really matters with the rest of this season. Best way to help our chances as that is to keep on losing. Tonight was a fine loss indeed. Bravo. Well done boys!!
- SimpleJack

It isn't all that matters.

What else matters is the development of players on the big team roster - like Jokiharju, Strome, Dahlstrom, Delia, Kampf, Kahun....

if you factor in games played we have the 3rd worst record in the league. with LA and OTT at 40.7 pts (.85 pts per game) we are 41. So we are right there. A few teams are just above us as well. 3 more games before or bye. hopefully Ward gets 2 of those. LOL. need a top 5 pick at worse. Corey P who rates prospects says he thinks this draft is a little stronger then last or next at the top. I assume he means 1-5 dahlin would probably be higher then Hughes but maybe 2-5 is stronger.

Speaking of dumb did you see Jake Gardiner and his lame attempt at battling for the puck? I have no idea how the Leafs expect to win with that defense and with Gardiner as one of their top defenders.

The problem with Gus, Gardiner, Leddy and guys of that ilk is you see so much raw talent, especially on the offensive side of the puck, you want to work with them to build a more complete game, trouble is they don't seem to be interested in putting in the hard work and collecting the bruises that go with it.
- paulr

Because Sportscenter and the likes always show the goals (and that fake picture of Bobby Orr), that is why defenseman forget about defense.

Because Sportscenter and the likes always show the goals (and that fake picture of Bobby Orr), that is why defenseman forget about defense.
- powerenforcer

It's too bad offensive D-men don't really commit to the other end the way Bobby Orr did.

Speaking of dumb did you see Jake Gardiner and his lame attempt at battling for the puck? I have no idea how the Leafs expect to win with that defense and with Gardiner as one of their top defenders.

The problem with Gus, Gardiner, Leddy and guys of that ilk is you see so much raw talent, especially on the offensive side of the puck, you want to work with them to build a more complete game, trouble is they don't seem to be interested in putting in the hard work and collecting the bruises that go with it.
- paulr

Yes I saw good old Jake in action. Simply put he went brain dead on the PP and was taken off the puck by a big, heavy forward (of which the Hawks have none) who spotted an opportunity and seized on it.

One of the problems in the NHL right now is the obsession by GMs with 'puck moving' Dmen without regard to whether they can play without the puck or behind their own blue line.

The old style defenceman are almost obsolete. But a guy like Ron Hainsey can still do so much for a team on the PK, eating minutes etc. IMO he is the kind of player the Hawks should be trying to develop Dahlstrom into - solid in his own end first. We are seeing improvement in Murphy in that area.

Josh Morrissey is my favourite NHL defenceman right now.

Couldn't agree more, time to get some hockey players for this team.
- BetweenTheDots

First things First...... it's time for Mr.Wirtz to hire some hockey brains up top, not just marketing tools !!

That's the problem with this team they lack skill , energy, size upfront and defensively Keith and Seabrook are becoming more of a liability for this team to improve defensively.

Keith has 2 goals in 2 years and I'm not sure how anyone can justify having him or Seabrook on this team with a straight face. The entire premise of keeping him to teach and play out his contract because he helped him win 3 cups and somehow and The detriment of this teams future ability we write that off and owe him?

I'm sure if Stan frees up the money he could find more productive defenseman to take their place.



Ward is a joke he should not be playing ahead of delia.
- Taylorst1

Don't worry about Keith. The Hawks are getting Laine and Trouba for Keith and and Saad remember?