anybody have thoughts on a fantasy trade from JJ Kane to Avs for first round pick OTT and prospect Makar and Tysone Barrie
- Count Caggula

Why don’t we just trade everyone, including the Indianhead? And with master trader/drafter Stanbo as GM, the Hawks will soon be back in Cup contention — in about 50 years!

Gatekeeper and JJ are bigger downers than OxyContin. Don’t fall for their negativism.

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I would like Ferland and Brassard ideally instead of Hinostroza if forming a third line.

But Brassard is injured often. Similarly Kokoeck has been injury prone. You can have Duclair all day. Wondering if Fischer on Arizona could be top six? Haven't seen enough of his performance to make a call. Apparently Petrovic not too much more than average if Florida willing to let him go. I keep thinking Brodin is supposed to become really good..Anderson Ekk on player watch list. Tolvanen would be a boost to an already descent Nashville lineup. That swiss kid Fiala, a #1 round selection playing on Nashville, already endured a lot and is one tough dude. Scoring potential. Where did Poink on NYR come from

I doubt Colorado would make that trade but it's a pretty tempting offer to jump start the rebuild. Obviously losing Kane will be a traumatic culture shock but it would probably almost ensure the Hawks will finish with one of the worst record and Ottawa will probably be the other worst team. Imagine starting the rebuild with Jack Hughes, Kaapo Kakko and another $10.5M in cap space to sign one of the top free agents this summer. Cale Maker is one of the best d-prospects not currently in the NHL - he would be chosen ahead of any of the d-prospects currently in the Hawks pipeline. Barrie certainly wouldn't hurt to add to the Hawks team.

The optimistic plan is to improve enough to make a run at the Cup while Kane and Toews are still playing at a high level - but there's a lot of stuff that would need to go right for that to become a reality. A trade Kane type of rebuild will take longer but it's probably a more realistic approach to getting back to being a Cup contender.
- EbonyRaptor

Yeah it will take longer -- maybe 50 years with genius Stanbo as GM to orchestrate the rebuild.

Yeah it will take longer -- maybe 50 years with genius Stanbo as GM to orchestrate the rebuild.
- BMWChiFan

Trade Kane and your ticket sales - not to mention and season ticket holders - will dry up.

Realistic dilemma could be if you protect Toewes and his salary and soft play with that contract come expansion. I do not know what contractual terms say for Seabrook and Toewes of they must be protected

anybody have thoughts on a fantasy trade from JJ Kane to Avs for first round pick OTT and prospect Makar and Tysone Barrie
- Count Caggula

The Blackhawks need a minimum viable product, without Kane they don't have that. The only way Kane is trade would be if they're getting a younger Kane type of player in return. Anyone is tradeable for the right price, I just don't see any GM paying the required price for Kane.

Trade Kane and your ticket sales - not to mention and season ticket holders - will dry up.
- jhawk59

Winning sells more tickets then an individual player. If I lived in Edmonton I'd spend big bucks to see McDavid for a game or two. I wouldn't buy season's tickets to watch that mess of a team. Yes Kane is a draw for sure but winning draws more fans regardless of who the players are.

Winning sells more tickets then an individual player. If I lived in Edmonton I'd spend big bucks to see McDavid for a game or two. I wouldn't buy season's tickets to watch that mess of a team. Yes Kane is a draw for sure but winning draws more fans regardless of who the players are.
- paulr

Good point

And Kane is the only guy who can command a decent return to make this team watchable again. Either we enjoy watching Kane play on a team going no where or we accept that the team will be weak for a few years and that the return for Kane may expedite that process.
- paulr

You bring up a good point. However I disagree, start with moving other core members, have some luck when drafting, and possibly sign some decent free agents. Kane is someone to build around.

Winning sells more tickets then an individual player. If I lived in Edmonton I'd spend big bucks to see McDavid for a game or two. I wouldn't buy season's tickets to watch that mess of a team. Yes Kane is a draw for sure but winning draws more fans regardless of who the players are.
- paulr

Exactly.

(again) I doubt Colorado makes that trade but if the Hawks could get a top-5 pick (possibly #1), Makar, who is a better d-prospect than Boqvist and anyone else in the Hawks system and a top-4 veteran d-man that puts up points - that would be very hard to pass up.

The Blackhawks need a minimum viable product, without Kane they don't have that. The only way Kane is trade would be if they're getting a younger Kane type of player in return. Anyone is tradeable for the right price, I just don't see any GM paying the required price for Kane.
- DarthKane

totally agree. He's been unbelievable this year given the overall talent level on this team. He isn't preventing them from losing with frequency so the tank is still on, but he's entertaining enough to watch. How many 88 Blackhawks jerseys are around this city. He's a keeper. Hopefully they'll be able to rebuild around him so he gets some more Cups with the Blackhawks,

This joint is like a soap opera - come back after a long while and it's the same ol', same ol'.

Except, of course, for random discussions of paper routes and other 1st jobs....
- mohel

Pinspotter....

Exactly.

(again) I doubt Colorado makes that trade but if the Hawks could get a top-5 pick (possibly #1), Makar, who is a better d-prospect than Boqvist and anyone else in the Hawks system and a top-4 veteran d-man that puts up points - that would be very hard to pass up.
- EbonyRaptor

Question: How many Top 5 Picks or "lock" prospects end up bottom pair NHL dmen, 3rd line forwards, or playing in Europe????


Answer: Hundreds


Kane is a bona-fide NHL Hall of Famer...you don't trade that for a bunch of maybes, IMO.

Question: How many Top 5 Picks or "lock" prospects end up bottom pair NHL dmen, 3rd line forwards, or playing in Europe????


Answer: Hundreds


Kane is a bona-fide NHL Hall of Famer...you don't trade that for a bunch of maybes, IMO.
- EnzoD

Hey Enzo, what kind of year is Kaner having as compared to his MVP season with the Breadman on his wing? Um......thats why you keep Kane

Winning sells more tickets then an individual player. If I lived in Edmonton I'd spend big bucks to see McDavid for a game or two. I wouldn't buy season's tickets to watch that mess of a team. Yes Kane is a draw for sure but winning draws more fans regardless of who the players are.
- paulr

The Chicago Bull, Cubs, Bears, Toronto Maple Leafs, New York Rangers, Buffalo Bils and a couple of others would like a word.

This joint is like a soap opera - come back after a long while and it's the same ol', same ol'.

Except, of course, for random discussions of paper routes and other 1st jobs....
- mohel

I missed that, paperboy for Vistains news agency on Sauk Trail in Richton Park. Had 2 routes in Park Forest. Had to ride our bikes up there on Saturdays to pick up our little brown envelopes stuffed with a whopping $8.00-10.00. Hit the 7-11 for a slurpee on the way home. Doing the math it came out to $0.66 an hour.

Exactly.

(again) I doubt Colorado makes that trade but if the Hawks could get a top-5 pick (possibly #1), Makar, who is a better d-prospect than Boqvist and anyone else in the Hawks system and a top-4 veteran d-man that puts up points - that would be very hard to pass up.
- EbonyRaptor

Hmm, not so sure Makar is a better prospect than Boqvist. Makar's freshman year and Mitchell's are pretty similar with Mitchell's numbers being better. I know Mitchell has been used in all situations at DU but really can't say about Makar because I simply don't know.

Boqvist is at a PPG in the OHL in his first year playing in NA. Seems to me both are pretty good prospects.

I would respectfully disagree. All signs point to Patrick Kane being a Top Line RW for the entire duration of his career. Trading Kane creates a hole that cannot be filled easily. Of course there is the possibility that Chiarelli trades you Nurse, Hopkins, and Draisaitl for Kane, but barring a trade of similar nature....I just don't see how you can "rob peter to pay paul" in a sense. With Toews, Seabrook and Keith...their on-ice conributions are MUCH more easily replicated/replaced, especially as they continue to age and their playing style is not sustainable.


A perimeter, offense only high skill, high IQ player like Kane....look no further than Marty St. Louis as a most recent example of a small (he's even smaller than kane) skill winger that was a Top line producer on a playoff contender at age THIRTY EIGHT!!


Again, there is always a possibility that a miracle trade comes to fruition that provides top line quantity to balance the loss of the All-Word quality Kane currently, and will continue to provide the Hawks. I just don't see it as a realistic possibility. Again, not even mentioning the fallout within the fanbase....
- EnzoD

I don't understand how people think that trading away Kane would expedite the rebuild...it would only delay them becoming contenders for a few more years. I would rather the Hawks try to reload around Kane and Toews, and then if that doesn't work in the next few years, then you blow it all up and do a full rebuild. The Hawks owe their fans one last chance at getting back to the top without getting rid of their "heroes".

If they go the full rebuild route, it will be at least 5 years before they are even considered close to contending.

Question: How many Top 5 Picks or "lock" prospects end up bottom pair NHL dmen, 3rd line forwards, or playing in Europe????


Answer: Hundreds


Kane is a bona-fide NHL Hall of Famer...you don't trade that for a bunch of maybes, IMO.
- EnzoD

I think it depends what the objective is. If the objective is to try to squeeze another run at the Cup while Kane is still the centerpiece of the team - then no, you don't trade him. If on the other hand you think it's unlikely the Hawks can improve the team around Kane enough to have a legit shot at winning the Cup, then trading Kane for a boatload would be the right move. Either way - the objective should be to win the Cup - not merely enjoy watching Kane play until he rides off into the sunset.

This joint is like a soap opera - come back after a long while and it's the same ol', same ol'.

Except, of course, for random discussions of paper routes and other 1st jobs....
- mohel

Hey, I worked the paper stands at North Ave. & Pulaski. The equivalent of an office job.

Hey, I worked the paper stands at North Ave. & Pulaski. The equivalent of an office job.
- Rota's Rooter

Whoa.

Hey, I worked the paper stands at North Ave. & Pulaski. The equivalent of an office job.
- Rota's Rooter

LOL, my drivers delivered your stuff (Levy)

LOL, my drivers delivered your stuff (Levy)
- riozzo

50 cents an hour for 8-10 hours on a Saturday. I was too naive at the time to figure out the reason he paid us that was he expected us to pocket cash during the day.

I missed that, paperboy for Vistains news agency on Sauk Trail in Richton Park. Had 2 routes in Park Forest. Had to ride our bikes up there on Saturdays to pick up our little brown envelopes stuffed with a whopping $8.00-10.00. Hit the 7-11 for a slurpee on the way home. Doing the math it came out to $0.66 an hour.
- riozzo

Now there's a vet, travel place, and take-out Aurelio's over there. 7-11 still up and kicking.

Remember...the term "fan" came from "fanatic." #JusSayin
- CanOCorn

And “ass” comes from passion!

Yeah, same for me. I grew up in a rural farming community with an outdoor rink behind my house. Most of us just with skates, stick, gloves and puck.
- breadbag

That was all we needed back then because we didn’t have seal belts, air bags, baby’s seats, etc and the chemistry sets our parents bought us contained liquid mercury.