at least 8 years

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...-central/team.php?team=LA
- homiedclown

The recapture penalty is 2 years. Termination penalty is 8.

That's how THAT material breach went. Sabres need to be careful.

He doesn't want to be here I was told and didn't want to be traded in the first place. He started with his attitude during the 10 game win streak.
- SABRES 89

nope and once he got benched for this weekend, he went home and pouted


worst thing he could have done

nope and once he got benched for this weekend, he went home and pouted


worst thing he could have done
- homiedclown

He started pouting awhile back, enough to where Bogo said something to him in locker room in front of the players.

The recapture penalty is 2 years. Termination penalty is 8.

That's how THAT material breach went. Sabres need to be careful.
- TheSabresTaco

the sabres will be giving him a week, whatever he says from now til the end of the week does not change what he did


sabres can A. take him back which is really less then 1 percent of that happening
B. allow his agent to work out a trade, again less then 1 percent of that happening
C. unconditional waivers, which he will clear, and then begin the process to void the contract. The Sabres have all the rights to void the contract now, and all the Berglund camp will be able to do is either try to contest the losing battle or recapture most of that money in an overseas contract that will get him paid in Jan.

Pretty sure the camp would rather be paid 80 cents on the dollar starting in Jan rather then fight a losing battle and lose who knows how much money.


You make a dumb mistake, and you have the chance to get 80 percent back right away or roll the dice and most likely get next to nothing for a year which would you do?


I still think this was a calculated plan by Berglund and his agent to get Berglund out of Buffalo and overseas

He started pouting awhile back, enough to where Bogo said something to him in locker room in front of the players.
- SABRES 89

who would have thought Berglund would be a worse teammate than Evander?

The recapture penalty is 2 years. Termination penalty is 8.

That's how THAT material breach went. Sabres need to be careful.
- TheSabresTaco

The recapture penalty has nothing to do with this scenario. Because Berglund's contract wasn't one that has that type of issue to begin with.

Plus, Richards remaining contract was for a considerably higher amount (as in pretty close to double what Berglund's remaining amount is). So even if things do follow suit, you'd be looking at a relatively small amount probably over a 5-6 year period. Not necessarily a bad thing at this point. Honestly, I'd take it over the $3M+ that he's on the books for for 3 more years after this.

You can't keep up with me
- SABRES 89

I'm done trying.

Happy holidays

I'm done trying.

Merry F@cking Christmas
- Boss34

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the sabres will be giving him a week, whatever he says from now til the end of the week does not change what he did


sabres can A. take him back which is really less then 1 percent of that happening
B. allow his agent to work out a trade, again less then 1 percent of that happening
C. unconditional waivers, which he will clear, and then begin the process to void the contract. The Sabres have all the rights to void the contract now, and all the Berglund camp will be able to do is either try to contest the losing battle or recapture most of that money in an overseas contract that will get him paid in Jan.

Pretty sure the camp would rather be paid 80 cents on the dollar starting in Jan rather then fight a losing battle and lose who knows how much money.


You make a dumb mistake, and you have the chance to get 80 percent back right away or roll the dice and most likely get next to nothing for a year which would you do?


I still think this was a calculated plan by Berglund and his agent to get Berglund out of Buffalo and overseas
- homiedclown

It was definitely calculated. I know I bet you the other day he wouldn't go to Europe, but I'm not so confident right now.

it's simple, sabres hold the cards


does berglund want to fight this losing battle, or go play back home in Jan

my guess is he wants to go back home so they will kowtow to the sabres and take the out to go overseas to recapture as much money as they can



Berglund will then sign the biggest contract in Swedish history and all will be a distant memory by Feb
- homiedclown

Tmgm working in Sweden as a Gm?

The recapture penalty has nothing to do with this scenario. Because Berglund's contract wasn't one that has that type of issue to begin with.

Plus, Richards remaining contract was for a considerably higher amount (as in pretty close to double what Berglund's remaining amount is). So even if things do follow suit, you'd be looking at a relatively small amount probably over a 5-6 year period. Not necessarily a bad thing at this point. Honestly, I'd take it over the $3M+ that he's on the books for for 3 more years after this.
- HonkFortheGoose

Probably premature, but for discussion purposes, I wonder what that termination penalty could be. Maybe 250K for 4 years? I know the Kings rushed that process, which is probably what (frank)ed them. Botts is a smart guy. If they go for termination, I'd put my money on there being zero cap penalties.

This is a line that Drouin crossed, under different circumstances. Under that scenario, the relationship was already damaged and he didn't want to hurt his chances of being traded to a team after being demoted, so he just didn't play. By terminating Drouin's contract, the Lightning would lose a significantly valuable player with a premium contract.

Berglund has no real value, and his contract vastly outweighs his usefulness. With his inflated contract and term, coupled with his declining abilities and speed, along with simply choosing not to show up AND potentially lying to the team, the team will be lucky to recoup a useful AHL guy or a mid to late pick. Termination seems like the nuclear option, even though its the most obvious. The organization likely feels the need to do it's due diligence to satisfy a player that has wronged them to at least get some value for him in return. This also paints the org in a better light, as it helps all it's players, regardless of stature.

A legal battle with the NHLPA will ensue if the path of contract termination goes forward. All facts must be gathered and the team must prove no fault.

Mike Richards blew coke and crossed the border with it and the Kings still needed to pay him, and keep his awesome salary on their books for another two years.
- TheSabresTaco

Good post.

The berglund situation isn't going away without a fight.
We're talking millions of $.

Hope its $ not against our cap.
Hard to believe that's the case.

EK might have been right about what's going on in Philly...
- Stripes77

Well he should, after all it is Flyersbuzz......

Whatever, those hacks will softball everything to him.
- TheSabresTaco

Exactly they will ask have you played fantasy hockey ? Who do you think I should start

Just Cringe

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- homiedclown

yuletide blessings

Probably premature, but for discussion purposes, I wonder what that termination penalty could be. Maybe 250K for 4 years? I know the Kings rushed that process, which is probably what (frank)ed them. Botts is a smart guy. If they go for termination, I'd put my money on there being zero cap penalties.
- TheSabresTaco

Honestly, I'm hoping for a clean break with no type of penalty or whatever.

But my guess would be that the NHLPA won't be on board for that. So we may see some sort of cap penalty. Probably a certain percentage spread out over a set number of years similar to the Richards thing. But due to Berglunds contract being for less and shorter than Richards was, I don't suspect it'll be that much. I think Richards ended up like 1/3 or so over twice the remaining term, but I haven't looked at it that closely.

So I'm not sure if we would need to do like 6 years (since he has 3 remaining after this one) or if this one would count to make it over 8 years if you're doubling it.

I'm done trying.

Happy holidays
- Boss34

https://youtu.be/-HEUEi2fVSA

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- homiedclown

🙂 Homie

Good takes on berglund .

Hope you're right.

It was definitely calculated. I know I bet you the other day he wouldn't go to Europe, but I'm not so confident right now.
- TheSabresTaco

the message I got Saturday was Berglund will never play for the sabres again, and probably never in the NHL again

FWIW

He started pouting awhile back, enough to where Bogo said something to him in locker room in front of the players.
- SABRES 89

Someone stop me, I'm starting to like Bogo again.

Honestly, I'm hoping for a clean break with no type of penalty or whatever.

But my guess would be that the NHLPA won't be on board for that. So we may see some sort of cap penalty. Probably a certain percentage spread out over a set number of years similar to the Richards thing. But due to Berglunds contract being for less and shorter than Richards was, I don't suspect it'll be that much. I think Richards ended up like 1/3 or so over twice the remaining term, but I haven't looked at it that closely.

So I'm not sure if we would need to do like 6 years (since he has 3 remaining after this one) or if this one would count to make it over 8 years if you're doubling it.
- HonkFortheGoose

He’s owed just over $12 mil (like 12.4 counting what’s remaining this year). 1/3 is 4.1ish.

I’m hoping they don’t have to pay him a dime.

He’s owed just over $12 mil (like 12.4 counting what’s remaining this year). 1/3 is 4.1ish.

I’m hoping they don’t have to pay him a dime.
- dadeadhead

That's my hope as well. I don't think he should be owed anything. He "took his ball and went home" that tells me that he's forfeiting his salary. Don't want to play? Don't get paid. I don't get paid if I just stop showing up to work, so why should he?

He’s owed just over $12 mil (like 12.4 counting what’s remaining this year). 1/3 is 4.1ish.

I’m hoping they don’t have to pay him a dime.
- dadeadhead

amazing how quickly one can flush his character in 1 quick moment


he will never play again in the NHL

The recapture penalty has nothing to do with this scenario. Because Berglund's contract wasn't one that has that type of issue to begin with.

Plus, Richards remaining contract was for a considerably higher amount (as in pretty close to double what Berglund's remaining amount is). So even if things do follow suit, you'd be looking at a relatively small amount probably over a 5-6 year period. Not necessarily a bad thing at this point. Honestly, I'd take it over the $3M+ that he's on the books for for 3 more years after this.
- HonkFortheGoose

How the fk did LA get so (frank)ed with the richards deal? He snorted blow and got caught. Way worse than not showing up. How do we get out of this with no penalty at all?

That's my hope as well. I don't think he should be owed anything. He "took his ball and went home" that tells me that he's forfeiting his salary. Don't want to play? Don't get paid. I don't get paid if I just stop showing up to work, so why should he?
- HonkFortheGoose

He’s in breach of contract.

As far as I’m concerned it’s now null and void.