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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
Only thing consistent with the Flyers...every coach MJL stands behind it's because of the players, many many different players.
- Glak18


That makes zero sense.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 1:14 PM ET
Funny world we live in where people are fine with Lehtera and weise being in the lineup.

For the record I am too I think they've been far from the problem this year it's just such a shocking departure from last year
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 1:18 PM ET
Funny world we live in where people are fine with Lehtera and weise being in the lineup.

For the record I am too I think they've been far from the problem this year it's just such a shocking departure from last year

- bulet13



Here is the thing. Those players are still in the same role. Obviously Weise has played much better this year than he has previously. As Bill pointed out though, you still had a 3rd line winger with one goal on the year. Some of those spots still have to be improved. It's just been overshadowed this year by many other issues with the team.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 1 @ 1:24 PM ET
That makes zero sense.
- MJL


Stevens......it's not the coach, it's the players

Berube...it's not the coach, it's the players

Hak....do I really need to?

Same thing, different coach. To be fair I think you backed Stevens WAY more than Hak, but we know how that went here and elsewhere.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
Lets go Flyers.
Hate these slow points in the schedule.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
Lets go Flyers.
Hate these slow points in the schedule.

- opeth_pa


I want Ghost to dominate this one. Silence the critics and rumors. The time has come. I believe.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
Funny world we live in where people are fine with Lehtera and weise being in the lineup.

For the record I am too I think they've been far from the problem this year it's just such a shocking departure from last year

- bulet13



I'm not thrilled with them on a line against the Penguins personally
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
I want Ghost to dominate this one. Silence the critics and rumors. The time has come. I believe.
- flyer_nutter


I just want Ghost to play good again. This team doesn't win unless Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, Couturier, Provorov and Ghost all show up at the same time.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
I want Ghost to dominate this one. Silence the critics and rumors. The time has come. I believe.
- flyer_nutter

Yes please, he and Provy need to snap out of it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:12 PM ET
Stevens......it's not the coach, it's the players

Berube...it's not the coach, it's the players

Hak....do I really need to?

Same thing, different coach. To be fair I think you backed Stevens WAY more than Hak, but we know how that went here and elsewhere.

- Glak18


I advocated for the Flyers to fire Laviolette. It seems as though your information is incomplete.

You seem to want to make this personal rather than debating the actual subject. Try and effectively refute my opinion and what it is based on. Not having much success there.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:20 PM ET
I advocated for the Flyers to fire Laviolette. It seems as though your information is incomplete.

You seem to want to make this personal rather than debating the actual subject. Try and effectively refute my opinion and what it is based on. Not having much success there.

- MJL

You can’t refute an opinion, just facts.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
Wait I get crucified for a realistic trade giving up very little and this...

1) Schneider hasn't played any good hockey in 3 years and that changes coming to the Flyers? That doesn't even touch on his injury issues that have been worse than Elliott.

2) Why would St. Louis trade Tarasenko for Voracek?

3) That's super value for Ottawa for a player they may not be able to sign, I won't even talk about why the Flyers wouldn't just sign him in the offseason then.

4) If Homer is going to go all out why would he all of sudden trade Simmonds for future assets? Did he wake up and decide to do the complete opposite the next day?

Might as well add Giroux and a 5th for McDavid too.

- Glak18


Regarding Schneider that is true but how many years did Mason play bad hockey in CBJ before being dealt here? The answer is 4 years. That worked out for us until Mason's ego ended his career.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:31 PM ET
I advocated for the Flyers to fire Laviolette. It seems as though your information is incomplete.

You seem to want to make this personal rather than debating the actual subject. Try and effectively refute my opinion and what it is based on. Not having much success there.

- MJL


But if you notice...my list did not have Lavy on there because of that. Intriguing. The story unfolds.

What's Lavy up to these days speaking of him?
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:32 PM ET
But if you notice...my list did not have Lavy on there because of that. Intriguing. The story unfolds.

What's Lavy up to these days speaking of him?

- Glak18


Losing in the Stanley cup finals and then in the second round in back to back years...sound familiar?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
Regarding Schneider that is true but how many years did Mason play bad hockey in CBJ before being dealt here? The answer is 4 years. That worked out for us until Mason's ego ended his career.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


How did Mason play bad during his Calder winning rookie season? Plus he was 21, 22 and 23 compared to how old is Schneider? Did Mason have injury issues as well?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 1 @ 2:34 PM ET
Losing in the Stanley cup finals and then in the second round in back to back years...sound familiar?
- bulet13


DAMN losing in the finals. Tough life.

What's Stevens and Berube up to?

Notice a trend yet?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
Funny world we live in where people are fine with Lehtera and weise being in the lineup.

For the record I am too I think they've been far from the problem this year it's just such a shocking departure from last year

- bulet13


They have been one of few consistent pieces for the Flyers. Weal is a big downgrade from Fillpula. We expected Patrick to be ready but he isnt.

We also expected Provy and Ghost to be better. If these three players get hot. We will win games again. Especially since Elliot should be back soon. The Flyers have to improve their possession game. Leafs right now compensate for their lack of D by just hogging possession.

What we do is turn the puck over and give the other team possession so they can try and score.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
Ek (yes I know) claims Parayako is available from the Blues. If this is true we should try to grab him
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:35 PM ET
DAMN losing in the finals. Tough life.

What's Stevens and Berube up to?

Notice a trend yet?

- Glak18


Ones a head coach. The other was just a head coach.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
They have been one of few consistent pieces for the Flyers. Weal is a big downgrade from Fillpula. We expected Patrick to be ready but he isnt.

We also expected Provy and Ghost to be better. If these three players get hot. We will win games again. Especially since Elliot should be back soon. The Flyers have to improve their possession game. Leafs right now compensate for their lack of D by just hogging possession.

What we do is turn the puck over and give the other team possession so they can try and score.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx


I also take a daily poop. That’s consistent.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:36 PM ET
DAMN losing in the finals. Tough life.

What's Stevens and Berube up to?

Notice a trend yet?

- Glak18


To be fair I could coach the Predators and they would still make the playoffs. That lineup is beyond stacked
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
Ek (yes I know) claims Parayako is available from the Blues. If this is true we should try to grab him
- bulet13


How does that help us ? Hes a great player but hes primarily an offensive threat Nd plays average d. Doesnt play much PK.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 1 @ 2:37 PM ET
Ek (yes I know) claims Parayako is available from the Blues. If this is true we should try to grab him
- bulet13


Okay so in the land of hypothetical trades, that is one I could get behind.

Love Parayko and he’s fairly young.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Dec 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
How does that help us ? Hes a great player but hes primarily an offensive threat Nd plays average d. Doesnt play much PK.
- Tfaehner


Cause he's still young and outside of this year has been great. Sounds like someone we know pretty well right?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Dec 1 @ 2:38 PM ET
How did Mason play bad during his Calder winning rookie season? Plus he was 21, 22 and 23 compared to how old is Schneider? Did Mason have injury issues as well?
- Glak18


Actually yes Mason did. Schneiders injuries are blown out of proportion. Mason spent just as much time hurt as Schneider. Before last season Schneider played 60 games, year before that 58, year before that 69.

I will also point out Giroux had injury issues with the hip as well. It took a few years to bounce back but he has been playing the best hockey of his career.
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