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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
Maybe hes celebrating Chaunaka, you heathens
- KINGKENZO

Doesn’t Hanukkah start Monday?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
Sorry..misunderstanding. I meant the 2018 #19 draft pick. Not Patrick.
- Baxter27


Okay, my bad.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Doesn’t Hanukkah start Monday?
- Dkos

It begins tonight at sundown
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
Thanks for the recap.

I'd like to see this next game. For whatever reason JVR-Patrick-Voracek has not clicked, so give Laughton a shot.

Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JVR Laughton Voracek
Lindblom Patrick Simmonds
Raffl Lehtera Weise

- Baxter27


I like Patrick and Lindblom together. Also like giving Laughton more ice time at even strength.

It’s not perfect but about the best you can do with G at LW. JvR and Simmonds should be split up I think.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 2 @ 1:36 PM ET
Winning cures most things. Would love to hear from Hakstol about it someday. Hextall got criticized for being to loyal to Hakstol and not firing Hakstol. Now some say Hakstol wasn't part of his inner circle.

Very interesting, but I am so ready to move on and see what the next GM does. I do hope Hextall gets another shot somewhere and he may be better off in a place that doesn't have the Flyers history.

- FlyerFan16



Maybe Hextall was loyal cause he knew he could control Hakstol?

That being said it seems that the micro managing is a narrative that the Flyers want pushed out. There is truth on both sides in my eyes, but we will never really know the whole truth
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 2 @ 1:37 PM ET
I hope he is okay.
- cdearth23



Thoughts and Prayers.

#PrayforBill
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 2 @ 1:40 PM ET
Doesn’t Hanukkah start Monday?
- Dkos


Pre-Chanukkah parties are all the rage these days
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
The plot thickens...

hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Dec 2 @ 2:56 PM ET
Lost in the shuffle of thinking about forwards:

MacDonald +3
Gostisbehere -2 (and looking worse than that)

For all of the talk about reuniting Ghost-Provy, Provy spent almost 1/2 of his 5v5 time with Gudas and Hagg, and he seemed a lot more sure of himself playing with those partners. Not a shock.

Hopefully Hak noticed how much better he played.
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:01 PM ET
Pre-Chanukkah parties are all the rage these days
- corduroy

I actually went to one yesterday...no joke. I guess 8 days is not enough for some?
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Dec 2 @ 3:02 PM ET
The plot thickens...


- feelingkettle


whoa
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:05 PM ET
The plot thickens...


- feelingkettle

Unless Punching Bag Cote has anything to substantial to add this is nothing more than his opinion, which is worth the same as yours or mine, so not much
Dkos
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:06 PM ET
Unless Punching Bag Cote has anything to substantial to add this is nothing more than his opinion, which is worth the same as yours or mine, so not much
- corduroy

Agreed. Not sure why he even felt he needed to comment on this.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Dec 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
The plot thickens...


- feelingkettle


Not surprising that a reporter who was used to having wide access to the team and facilities under former management felt the need to write an "expose" and found a bunch of butt hurt people in the organization whose advice was not being followed (because it was bad advice). There are a lot of people in the building who want to do things like there was no cap, no sports medicine or nutrition, advanced stats analytics, and as if physical play could dominate speed. When you fire the exterminator, they all come scurrying out of their cracks, but it doesn't mean they are right. It just means they have the ear of "good old days" writers, so they get the last word.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 2 @ 3:07 PM ET
Agreed. Not sure why he even felt he needed to comment on this.
- Dkos

Perhaps a cry for help in disguise? He may need our support.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:09 PM ET
Agreed. Not sure why he even felt he needed to comment on this.
- Dkos

When was the last time this poop happened when a GM was fired? Or even a coach?

Say what you want, but Bill, Jay, Ant San, and now a former player/coach are kinda all saying the same thing.

Obviously some weird poop was going on during Hextall's reign.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Not surprising that a reporter who was used to having wide access to the team and facilities under former management felt the need to write an "expose" and found a bunch of butt hurt people in the organization whose advice was not being followed (because it was bad advice). There are a lot of people in the building who want to do things like there was no cap, no sports medicine or nutrition, advanced stats analytics, and as if physical play could dominate speed. When you fire the exterminator, they all come scurrying out of their cracks, but it doesn't mean they are right. It just means they have the ear of "good old days" writers, so they get the last word.
- hockeyal

I don't think this situation is as black and white as some people, including you, make out. Homer hired Hextall, knowing his plan, and gave it 5 years. This really isn't old guard vs. new guard. That's too simple. I don't think Hextall's plan of managing the cap, or being patient, or some other hockey related stuff was really the issue.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:11 PM ET
Perhaps a cry for help in disguise? He may need our support.
- Nucker101

"Help me, I agree with this article." - Riley Cote
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 2 @ 3:16 PM ET
Perhaps a cry for help in disguise? He may need our support.
- Nucker101

Did Hexy have anything to do with Cote being dismissed as a coach of the phantoms? I know he feels he was let go because of his advocacy of pot as pain treatment. Not sure if he was let go before or after Hexy came to the Flyers
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:21 PM ET
Also for whatever it’s worth, the guy that wrote the slander piece against Hextall - was actually pushed out of covering the Flyers because he released the draft board for all to see.

Take whatever he writes with a grain of salt.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:22 PM ET
Also for whatever it’s worth, the guy that wrote the slander piece against Hextall - was actually pushed out of covering the Flyers because he released the draft board for all to see.

Take whatever he writes with a grain of salt.

- flyer_nutter

Source on this?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
Source on this?
- feelingkettle


No source, but he did leak the draft board and stopped covering the team some time after.

I’ll try to find the board leak thing.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
No source, but he did leak the draft board and stopped covering the team some time after.

I’ll try to find the board leak thing.

- flyer_nutter

So basically you are just guessing that's what happened here?

I remember the board was visible, but without a source that's the reason he was fired, that's even more speculative than anything posted here recently.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
So basically you are just guessing that's what happened here?
- feelingkettle

Let’s give him a chance to defend himself here
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
Let’s give him a chance to defend himself here
- Nucker101

Like I said, I remember the board was visible in a video. I'm just asking for something that connects that and his firing.
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