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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Nov 25 @ 2:34 PM ET
Carol Schram: It's over! Canucks head home happy after snapping losing streak vs. Kings
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 2:43 PM ET
@ Nucker

Just read that CA article. Gives me a little hope about an Edler trade. Lol at Aquilini having to force Benning to agree to not trade away more picks.
- Nucker101


I have heard a few times by the media and Jim saying we feel we need players now . We have plenty of prospects. Not exactly those words but close. It was around TDL and they wanted prospects over picks. Not sure I really blame him.

I know he was not referring to first round or high second rounds picks. I honestly would rather see Edler traded for a high end prospect or top 6 winger over a draft pick. I know it is not the popular choice but I stand by it.

I have heard from a few sources (SN650 mostly) Canucks are looking to move on from Edler. They do have a few prospects in the system including Mceneny who is now 24 and ready . Obviously not as good as Edler but a lot better than Pouliot. I do hope they go a different direction. I like Edler but the time is passing to try a different direction.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 25 @ 2:45 PM ET
Thanks Carol!!
KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

Nov 25 @ 2:48 PM ET
It’s a win against the poopty kings. But I guess a win is a win.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 2:51 PM ET
I think you are right Carol I think it was intentional to see if there are takers for Archibald. Comets blogger Corey H mentioned on Friday that DA needed to be sent back now seeing Boucher had been called up. If he knew about it the Canucks had to know.


Nick Kyper I don't listen too much to what those guys say. Jake is having a good year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 25 @ 3:02 PM ET
Thanks Carol
@Vantel
I know he was not referring to first round or high second rounds picks. I honestly would rather see Edler traded for a high end prospect or top 6 winger over a draft pick. I know it is not the popular choice but I stand by it.



I'm not sure it's unpopular, I think it's just not smart business for other teams. Who wants to trade a top 6 forward for a rental. Edler certainly could sign with that team but giving up a younger top 6 forward for an over the hill 32 year D man.

Edler certainly isn't going to command what Karlsson got.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Nov 25 @ 3:13 PM ET
Thanks Carol



I'm not sure it's unpopular, I think it's just not smart business for other teams. Who wants to trade a top 6 forward for a rental. Edler certainly could sign with that team but giving up a younger top 6 forward for an over the hill 32 year D man.

Edler certainly isn't going to command what Karlsson got.

- manvanfan


I would have thought a pick or prsospect was easier to acquire than roster player.
If they want Edler for a playoff run, can that same club give up scoring by trading away a player in their top 6?

I can't see Edler retiring if the Canucks don't want him, he might not be a rental if traded to the right club. lots of ifs and buts. who knows. he is a head case.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 25 @ 3:17 PM ET
Thanks Carol

The Gaudette goal was almost enjoyable as the win.

You know when Edler is back when pucks bounce off shin pads again and a big difference without Poopalot.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 3:23 PM ET
Thanks Carol!

JV's coming into his own has been fun to see, I think Green has done a hell of a job with him and he didn't look out of place playing 20 minutes last night at all. I think the hangover of those first couple games getting points has worn off and Hutton is the garbage fire defensively that he always has been playing in tough match ups. I don't think he's tradable unless they slot him into the powerplay or something. Gagner seems to have smartened up a bit from his stint in the AHL, both games have been noticeably better.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 25 @ 3:26 PM ET
I would have thought a pick or prsospect was easier to acquire than roster player.
If they want Edler for a playoff run, can that same club give up scoring by trading away a player in their top 6?

I can't see Edler retiring if the Canucks don't want him, he might not be a rental if traded to the right club. lots of ifs and buts. who knows. he is a head case.

- hillbillydeluxe

Ya it doesn't make a lot of sense, but a prospect over a pick (a la Dahlen) makes plenty of sense. If you're making a run at the playoffs you aren't giving up talent f0r talent, it will always be future's.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 3:34 PM ET
Thanks Carol



I'm not sure it's unpopular, I think it's just not smart business for other teams. Who wants to trade a top 6 forward for a rental. Edler certainly could sign with that team but giving up a younger top 6 forward for an over the hill 32 year D man.

Edler certainly isn't going to command what Karlsson got.

- manvanfan



I was thinking more along the line of a Toffoli . I know LA have interest in him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 3:39 PM ET
Ya it doesn't make a lot of sense, but a prospect over a pick (a la Dahlen) makes plenty of sense. If you're making a run at the playoffs you aren't giving up talent f0r talent, it will always be future's.
- neem55


The two teams that have wanted Edler according to Botch are Pens and Kings. Both teams may struggle to find a playoff spot.

Kings want to shed salary so a prospect would not be a big savings.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 25 @ 3:50 PM ET
I was thinking more along the line of a Toffoli . I know LA have interest in him.
- VANTEL

I think LA is in sell off mode and is looking to clear cap. The trade would work but would probably be done sooner rather than later.

That then leaves a nice hole for DP to get back into the line up and the defence would be back to being just as bad.

I think LA could get more for Toffoli in terms of picks and prospects then Edler could though.

I personally wouldn't be willing to give up anything extra for Toffoli. 4 points in 6 games for Pearson in Pitt though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 3:55 PM ET
I would have thought a pick or prsospect was easier to acquire than roster player.
If they want Edler for a playoff run, can that same club give up scoring by trading away a player in their top 6?

I can't see Edler retiring if the Canucks don't want him, he might not be a rental if traded to the right club. lots of ifs and buts. who knows. he is a head case.

- hillbillydeluxe



It makes sense when a team like LA who wants to shed salary . Why would a team trade a 26 yr old Pearson with 2 more years left for a 30 year old Hagelin whose contract expires this year?

Pearson had one assist in 17 games no team is going to trade a pick for that. Hagelin's contract expires this year so LA get out from Pearson's two remaining years . LA can turn around at TDL and maybe trade Hagelin to a cup contender for a fourth round pick.

LA shed the salary and Pearson has 3 G and 4 pts in 6 games with Pitt who are now back on a winning track. Change the names Pearson and Hagelin for Toffoli and Edler . LA turns around at TDL and trades Edler again to a cup contender and gets out of another contract.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 3:58 PM ET
I think LA is in sell off mode and is looking to clear cap. The trade would work but would probably be done sooner rather than later.

That then leaves a nice hole for DP to get back into the line up and the defence would be back to being just as bad.

I think LA could get more for Toffoli in terms of picks and prospects then Edler could though.

I personally wouldn't be willing to give up anything extra for Toffoli. 4 points in 6 games for Pearson in Pitt though.

- manvanfan


Exactly. We get our top 6 guy they shed salary and can trade Edler at TDL
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 25 @ 4:01 PM ET
Exactly. We get our top 6 guy they shed salary and can trade Edler at TDL
- VANTEL

Straight up next week, I would do it.

I would throw in Toni Utunen
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
Straight up next week, I would do it.
- manvanfan


What if Blake wants to do it today only?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Nov 25 @ 4:02 PM ET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
What if Blake wants to do it today only?
- Nucker101

Tough luck, Philly.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
Tough luck, Philly.
- manvanfan


oh, interesting trade negotiation strategy
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
Like when we signed Gretzky?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
oh, interesting trade negotiation strategy
- Nucker101

Could you imagine Benning giving an ultimatum?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
What if Blake wants to do it today only?
- Nucker101


Never on a Sunday
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 25 @ 4:18 PM ET



- VANTEL

Plotting, Planning his next move.
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Nov 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
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