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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Sep 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Coverage for September Coverage for September
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 10 @ 11:20 AM ET
I think the price for Patches was not excessive, I think the problem is that Vegas way overpaid for Tatar last year. A roster player, 2nd pick, and good prospect is a pretty fair price for a guy like Max, especially since I'm guessing he resigns with Vegas.

Paying 3 good picks for Thomas Tatar was an ugly price. Thankfully for Vegas, a lot of teams pretty much gave picks and future assets to Vegas for the expansion draft trades.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 10 @ 11:42 AM ET
what Vegas paid for Tatar really is meaningless for this trade
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
When I saw the title "Coverage for September" I thought there might be some info regarding any televised broadcasts of the preseason games. Does anyone know about this yet? My guess is that the game next Tuesday in Buffalo won't be. What about the others?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 10 @ 12:01 PM ET
I think the price for Patches was not excessive, I think the problem is that Vegas way overpaid for Tatar last year. A roster player, 2nd pick, and good prospect is a pretty fair price for a guy like Max, especially since I'm guessing he resigns with Vegas.

Paying 3 good picks for Thomas Tatar was an ugly price. Thankfully for Vegas, a lot of teams pretty much gave picks and future assets to Vegas for the expansion draft trades.

- SuperHenderson13

Are guys with 4 consecutive 20 goal seasons really just considered roster players nowadays?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Sep 10 @ 12:04 PM ET
The Sabres fan base is very interested in seeing their #1 pick play, it may be televised. There were highlights from the Sabres rookie tourney games on Twitter. I'm not sure if they were from a feed though.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Sep 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
Bergevin definitely got a good haul for Pac. I stated this in another thread that while Vegas made a bad decision for Tatar, overpaying for Pac is better than overpaying for Tatar.

The big move here is how long McPhee will wait to attempt to extend Pacioretty. One has to think that last year was an aberration and he should get the benefit of the doubt, but I think if McPhee can wait it out until the new year without damaging his chances of retaining him; that would be wise.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 10 @ 1:21 PM ET
Are guys with 4 consecutive 20 goal seasons really just considered roster players nowadays?
- Feds91Stammer


MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 10 @ 1:26 PM ET
When I saw the title "Coverage for September" I thought there might be some info regarding any televised broadcasts of the preseason games. Does anyone know about this yet? My guess is that the game next Tuesday in Buffalo won't be. What about the others?
- PghPens668771



Looking down through the schedule in the link its shows that FS-D (Fox Sports - Detroit, I assume) is the network airing the game against the Wings on the 19th. You might be able to catch that online somewhere. Outside chance its on tv, especially in Canada.

Thats the only Pens pre season game I noticed with a network showing it.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
Are guys with 4 consecutive 20 goal seasons really just considered roster players nowadays?
- Feds91Stammer

...well... guys who score 20+ goals a year are on the roster, so yes, i'd say he is a roster player.

i get what youre saying, i didnt mean a guy who is just a throw in. i meant a guy who is on the NHL roster who can come in and play on the team this year. wasn't meant to criticize Tatar.
dcoms77
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham, ON
Joined: 12.26.2013

Sep 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
Dahlin is not playing today but the game is televised if anyone is interested. The Pens are getting their a$$e$ kicked right now but the Sabres have at least 4 kids who are going to be top 6 players and the Sabres goalie is playing extremely well. If you want to watch go to www.onhockey.tv
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Sep 10 @ 1:40 PM ET
...well... guys who score 20+ goals a year are on the roster, so yes, i'd say he is a roster player.

i get what youre saying, i didnt mean a guy who is just a throw in. i meant a guy who is on the NHL roster who can come in and play on the team this year. wasn't meant to criticize Tatar.

- SuperHenderson13

Just making sure.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Sep 10 @ 1:42 PM ET
Dahlin is not playing today but the game is televised if anyone is interested. The Pens are getting their a$$e$ kicked right now but the Sabres have at least 4 kids who are going to be top 6 players and the Sabres goalie is playing extremely well. If you want to watch go to www.onhockey.tv
- dcoms77

I love how people on Twitter are surprised that the #31 ranked prospect pool is struggling against much better groups of prospects.
dcoms77
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chatham, ON
Joined: 12.26.2013

Sep 10 @ 2:02 PM ET
I’m not surprised at all that they have been getting destroyed. All these teams have been keeping their first round picks. None of the 3 teams have won anything ormcome close except maybe the Bruins 5 years ago. The Bruins had 3 picks in a row in the first round a couple of years ago. I’m definitely not surprised that they are losing today. Middlestat, Asplund, Nylander, and Olofson could all be top 6 players in the next few years. Well Asplund will be a very good 3C behind Eichel and Middlestat. The Penguins should invite Roberts and Robertson to their main camp. Free assets are free assets and both of them look like good players. Bellerive looks a little slow but that is to be expected after what happened to him. He’s lucky to be playing at all. Addison looks the best. He can skate like the wind and has good handles. I’m hoping the big guy Angelo will drop the gloves any time here.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 2:32 PM ET
Dahlin is not playing today but the game is televised if anyone is interested. The Pens are getting their a$$e$ kicked right now but the Sabres have at least 4 kids who are going to be top 6 players and the Sabres goalie is playing extremely well. If you want to watch go to www.onhockey.tv
- dcoms77


We benched our best three defenders.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Sep 10 @ 2:33 PM ET
I love how people on Twitter are surprised that the #31 ranked prospect pool is struggling against much better groups of prospects.
- SuperHenderson13


They're just used to pants-ing Buffalo at all times.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

Sep 10 @ 3:41 PM ET
Montreal got smoked. Tatar isn’t even and nhl player.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Sep 10 @ 3:58 PM ET
As RW alluded to in the blog.... These prospect games dont mean jack sh!t
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 10 @ 4:18 PM ET
As RW alluded to in the blog.... These prospect games dont mean jack sh!t
- MattStrat


The results don't matter, but how the players look does matter. Although it's only a small sample size, you want to see if some of the young guys have poise or handle the puck like a hand grenade. How do players stack up against other pro-drafted peers? But yeah, who wins/losses mean nothing.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

Sep 10 @ 4:21 PM ET
Garth must be wetting himself right now.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 10 @ 4:22 PM ET
Are guys with 4 consecutive 20 goal seasons really just considered roster players nowadays?
- Feds91Stammer


At this point, yes, I'd say Scott Hartnell would be considered a "roster player."

Also, I was under the impression that Tomas Tatar was a player on a roster.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
And more proof that mr Wilson’s coverage of the pens has nothing to do with passion for the team but the desire to use the platform to promote his passion for advanced stats. Sorry the boring preseason doesn’t have enough data for graphs n’at.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Sep 10 @ 5:24 PM ET
Dahlin is not playing today but the game is televised if anyone is interested. The Pens are getting their a$$e$ kicked right now but the Sabres have at least 4 kids who are going to be top 6 players and the Sabres goalie is playing extremely well. If you want to watch go to www.onhockey.tv
- dcoms77


You weren't kidding. 10-2 final.
VeryModernMan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Munich
Joined: 06.06.2017

Sep 10 @ 5:32 PM ET
And more proof that mr Wilson’s coverage of the pens has nothing to do with passion for the team but the desire to use the platform to promote his passion for advanced stats. Sorry the boring preseason doesn’t have enough data for graphs n’at.
- ChrisMS


Its indeed a little straight-forward here... our roster, consisting of 23 players, will consist of a few players to get constant praise, a lot NHL'er who do their job, and of course those who get the replacement-level trash-talk the whole season long (current leading candidates: JJ, Cullen and Reaves - no, wait )... no prospects, nearly no AHL, not much stories, zero interviews... especially in summer Mr. Tanner's blogs read really exciting, and hell, Flyers Meltzer, VGK's Sheng Peng and a few others are simply fanblogger by heart. Still, the game-coverage with Mr. Wilson was always pretty good.

{Prospect-game vs Sabres} You weren't kidding. 10-2 final.
- stevens87


After 4-2 vs. Bruins and 6-2 vs Devils... 20-6=-14 in three games.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Sep 10 @ 5:48 PM ET
So have we reached the end to our goalie depth with those types of results?

(frank) it, they should have just dressed Sid!
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