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Boyer83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ft Worth, TX
Joined: 12.16.2011

Aug 22 @ 11:59 AM ET
oh boy... trying to remain calm here.

I hope this doesn't become a trend and that knee fully heals indefinitely. Give him 3 months if he needs it.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 22 @ 12:04 PM ET
It's cool we have Jordan Weal. He can easily start the season as our top center.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 22 @ 12:06 PM ET
SSB was right all along. Giroux will play center this season.
- Ftown19125

At least until Gudas runs into him at practice and knocks him flying into Nolan Patrick.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 22 @ 12:18 PM ET
At least until Gudas runs into him at practice and knocks him flying into Nolan Patrick.
- BiggE

At that point Wayne Simmonds becomes number one center.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Aug 22 @ 12:19 PM ET
30 knee bends

LOL!!!!

- Scoob

I’m assuming Couturier would be excused from the knee bend test.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 22 @ 12:20 PM ET
Cause you're confusing the MCL with the ACL?

https://springloadedtechn...bout-hockey-and-your-mcl/

- Feanor


Understood. I was more taking a shot at how the NHL reports injuries.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Aug 22 @ 12:30 PM ET
I strongly disagree. A big part of the reason why the Flyers top line, which had been seriously underwater at 5-on-5 the previous year, turned things around was due to Couturier's 200-foot game and freeing up Giroux to push things offensively. The way the two seamlessly switched off and read off each other, plus Couturier being good on strong-side draws and Giroux being utterly dominant on his strong side was also a factor in immediate puck possession.
- bmeltzer


Great insight, Bill. And I agree the top line clicked. The numbers don't lie. Coots flourished and allowed G to focus more on generating offense. They did feed off of each other. They will continue to do so this year. It works for us.

While you can't argue with 30+ goals for Coots and 102 pts for G, I think we have an opportunity to develop a top line center (Patrick in 19-20?) and allow Coots to play to his strengths as 2C or 3C. Not a major priority for this season as Coots and G will continue their strong play.



mattstake
Joined: 07.01.2012

Aug 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
Gudas is a dirty player at times, taking out a teammate in practice with a hip check is a bit much, no?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 22 @ 12:36 PM ET
(frank) you Radko.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 22 @ 12:39 PM ET
I'm hoping for a speedy recovery. He's our top line center and an important part of our success.

BUT...

I know I am in the minority with this belief but Coots is not the ideal 1st line center (IMO). He flourished with G, Jake, and TK, but also seems to play very well when moved down the line-up. In the Game 6 loss, 4 of his 5 points were scored with Laughton and Simmer or Read. The last goal he was on the ice with G and Jake. If I remember correctly, due to his knee injury, Fip and G had to take his defensive responsibilities. At least 1 goal was a blown coverage by Fip. Demonstrates the importance of Coots' health.

I was in the camp of the Flyers going out and getting a solid #1 center but the cost was too high. Coots does fill that role well (Obviously after last year's performance). I just feel we would be a stronger team with him as 2C or 3C.

Just my two cents.

- cdearth23



Why wouldn't you want your best 2 way center out on the ice with the line that is theoretically going to get the most ice time?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Great insight, Bill. And I agree the top line clicked. The numbers don't lie. Coots flourished and allowed G to focus more on generating offense. They did feed off of each other. They will continue to do so this year. It works for us.

While you can't argue with 30+ goals for Coots and 102 pts for G, I think we have an opportunity to develop a top line center (Patrick in 19-20?) and allow Coots to play to his strengths as 2C or 3C. Not a major priority for this season as Coots and G will continue their strong play.

- cdearth23



Couturier had his best season ever playing on the top line so how would he be playing more to his strengths on a different line?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 22 @ 12:50 PM ET
For whatever reason I read this article this morning and completely understood that he would be having surgery. I read it again right now and saw that it isn't.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
At that point Wayne Simmonds becomes number one center.
- SuperSchennBros

Would boost his trade value
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
start up the tank
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:10 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 22 @ 1:14 PM ET

- Glak18


*turns back*

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
Couturier had his best season ever playing on the top line so how would he be playing more to his strengths on a different line?
- MJL


Because maybe by that time the current second line is playing better than the current top line and they swap roles?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
if Hextall doesn't put Hart in net for game 1 in light of this news i think we need to seriously start considering that he could be trying to sabotage this franchise
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
if Hextall doesn't put Hart in net for game 1 in light of this news i think we need to seriously start considering that he could be trying to sabotage this franchise
- Crimsoninja


Rejoin the ff league
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Aug 22 @ 1:33 PM ET
Rejoin the ff league
- Nucker101

ok
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
ok
- Crimsoninja

ty
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
Because maybe by that time the current second line is playing better than the current top line and they swap roles?
- dragonoffrost



Not seeing how that makes that case.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Aug 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
if Hextall doesn't put Hart in net for game 1 in light of this news i think we need to seriously start considering that he could be trying to sabotage this franchise
- Crimsoninja

AGREED!!!
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 22 @ 2:26 PM ET
Not seeing how that makes that case.
- MJL


If Patrick's line starts consistently out performing Coots line and the coach switches the ice time to give Patrick's line the top minutes every game consistently, isn't Patrick's line line 1 then?

By the way I hate line 1, line 2, line 3, line 4 designation.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Aug 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Couturier had his best season ever playing on the top line so how would he be playing more to his strengths on a different line?
- MJL


I realize what I am proposing sounds ridiculous especially looking at the stats from last year. But I truly believe that Coots' role is more suited for a 2C or 3C where he draws the other team's top line. Until we have someone that can fill that top line center role, he stays. Bill made a convincing point regarding how that line compliments each other. It works for us.

There have been more than a few NHL players that had career years playing with a great line. Of course, I cannot name one right now:-) but you all know examples. Not to say that Coots is a flash in the pan by any means.
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