CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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He might suck goat balls, I’m not privy to his personal preferences, but he would put up 50 points on the second line with decent line mates, something that Beagle will never do. But it isn’t about Bozak, as I said, it was about finding the best offensive player they could at the C position, over paying that player to come to Van on a very short deal, giving time for the better prospects to develop. It also would have allowed Gaudette to ease into the NHL in a 4th line role, or head to Utica if he wasn’t ready and a guy like Schaller was capable of 4th line C. - 1970vintage
You need some patience Vinty. No quick fixes for our team |
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Wow. - CanuckDon
And so it begins..... |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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About Hughes...
Glad for him he wants to go back to college & driven to be a star. I’d rather him in Utica but i’m very ok with the NCAA.
If he truly can play RHD thats a big bonus otherwise we are stuck with Tanev EG & Stecher for better or worse. Wish Tree came back to give us more options.
I’m wondering if TL had another pick in mind? Hughes no probs but a true RHD was a bigger need. Hindsight a trade down with NYI for a 1st+ i wonder if it was explored. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Hoping we trade a LHD asap
Don’t really care for the return if decentish |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Draft and develop works. It has always worked.
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I just picked a random one of these posts to respond to, but some of you are making out like Benning has come up with an amazing new way to build a championship team. Draft you say, and develop? OMG my mind is blown. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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You need some patience Vinty. No quick fixes for our team - CanuckDon
Oh, you are reading this so wrong if you believe this is about a quick fix.
Benning's entire program is about "being competitive, while injecting younger, more skilled players into the lineup". Do we agree on that?
My position is that he has failed at the first part because he has over estimated the capabilities of the veteran players he has brought in to keep them competitive. Brandon Sutter was never going to replace what Kesler did for the Canucks. Everyone who pays attention to hockey said so when that trade was made, and now he is going to be the second line C? If instead of bringing in a new 4th line, Benning had done is best to find a guy capable of playing 2nd line minutes, and putting up 50 ish points, giving a guy like Pettersson a chance to break in to the NHL on the wing, in an offensive role, I believe the team would have had a better chance of "being competitive" and supporting the youth.
On a more entertaining note, I was trying to type the word while, and auto correct typed iHole, which is pretty darn funny |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Oh, you are reading this so wrong if you believe this is about a quick fix.
Benning's entire program is about "being competitive, while injecting younger, more skilled players into the lineup". Do we agree on that?
My position is that he has failed at the first part because he has over estimated the capabilities of the veteran players he has brought in to keep them competitive. Brandon Sutter was never going to replace what Kesler did for the Canucks. Everyone who pays attention to hockey said so when that trade was made, and now he is going to be the second line C? If instead of bringing in a new 4th line, Benning had done is best to find a guy capable of playing 2nd line minutes, and putting up 50 ish points, giving a guy like Pettersson a chance to break in to the NHL on the wing, in an offensive role, I believe the team would have had a better chance of "being competitive" and supporting the youth.
On a more entertaining note, I was trying to type the word while, and auto correct typed iHole, which is pretty darn funny  - 1970vintage
Im on my phone so I can’t respond to all your points.....but pal, let go a bit. Ignore my message because I can’t respond at the moment |
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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I just picked a random one of these posts to respond to, but some of you are making out like Benning has come up with an amazing new way to build a championship team. Draft you say, and develop? OMG my mind is blown. - 1970vintage
1st rounders:
JV LW/RW
BB RW
OJ LHD
EP RW/C
Hughes LHD
2nd round:
Demko G
Lind RW
Gadjovich LW
Woo RHD
3rd round:
Tryamkin LHD
Lockwood RW
Dipietro G
Madden C
Later rounds:
4th Rathbone LHD
5th Gaudette C
6th Palmu RW
Acquired in trades:
Dahlén LW
Goldobin LW
Lots of interesting talent & top heavy on wings & LHD. Lacking C’s. Next draft a C looks likely to stock up on. RHD are a league wide need. Faulk looks like a good idea to look into. Trade current D asap.
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Im on my phone so I can’t respond to all your points.....but pal, let go a bit. Ignore my message because I can’t respond at the moment - CanuckDon
All good, let me know when you would like to argue, what you would like to argue about, and which side I am taking, you iHole |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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All good, let me know when you would like to argue, what you would like to argue about, and which side I am taking, you iHole  - 1970vintage
I’ll stand in 😂😂 |
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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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All good, let me know when you would like to argue, what you would like to argue about, and which side I am taking, you iHole  - 1970vintage
I’m a bit drunk and the fireworks let me down so I’m going to pick my spots. Until next time |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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1st rounders:
JV LW/RW
BB RW
OJ LHD
EP RW/C
Hughes LHD
2nd round:
Demko G
Lind RW
Gadjovich LW
Woo RHD
3rd round:
Tryamkin LHD
Lockwood RW
Dipietro G
Madden C
Later rounds:
4th Rathbone LHD
5th Gaudette C
6th Palmu RW
Acquired in trades:
Dahlén LW
Goldobin LW
Lots of interesting talent & top heavy on wings & LHD. Lacking C’s. Next draft a C looks likely to stock up on. RHD are a league wide need. Faulk looks like a good idea to look into. Trade current D asap. - Nighthawk
Sure, not saying the Canucks haven't picked some good prospects, but go do this same thing for a few other teams to put it in perspective. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Sure, not saying the Canucks haven't picked some good prospects, but go do this same thing for a few other teams to put it in perspective. - 1970vintage
Just cherry picked who i like.
How they pan out or get developed is hard to say. I do see a lack of a top 2C & more RHD.
Playmakers & O from D is lacking
Plenty of good skaters |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Sure, not saying the Canucks haven't picked some good prospects, but go do this same thing for a few other teams to put it in perspective. - 1970vintage
Have at it. I can't wait to see your findings. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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About Hughes...
Glad for him he wants to go back to college & driven to be a star. I’d rather him in Utica but i’m very ok with the NCAA.
If he truly can play RHD thats a big bonus otherwise we are stuck with Tanev EG & Stecher for better or worse. Wish Tree came back to give us more options.
I’m wondering if TL had another pick in mind? Hughes no probs but a true RHD was a bigger need. Hindsight a trade down with NYI for a 1st+ i wonder if it was explored. - Nighthawk
When the injuries hit we are going to wish Hughes was here but it is what it is. Michigan ain't so bad.
Agree I'd be willing to bet that Linden and Benning weren't on the same page at the draft. I like Hughes...but is another small dman really what we need? We need D but like you said maybe in a different capacity. The league is changing and smaller players are excelling in many different roles...but I'd bet Linden was eyeballing someone else. |
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When the injuries hit we are going to wish Hughes was here but it is what it is. Michigan ain't so bad.
Agree I'd be willing to bet that Linden and Benning weren't on the same page at the draft. I like Hughes...but is another small dman really what we need? We need D but like you said maybe in a different capacity. The league is changing and smaller players are excelling in many different roles...but I'd bet Linden was eyeballing someone else. - LordHumungous
When the injuries hit we have OJ Sautner Briesbois and McEneny that can step in. on the left side .
On the right side Biega Pouliot Chatfield and Sautner played a game right side last year |
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Simmons is a douche. Not saying he's wrong, just a little salty for my taste. - 1970vintage
He is an idiot . Same style as Botch Pratt and Cox. Create panic sell newspapers, |
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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Oh, you are reading this so wrong if you believe this is about a quick fix.
Benning's entire program is about "being competitive, while injecting younger, more skilled players into the lineup". Do we agree on that?
My position is that he has failed at the first part because he has over estimated the capabilities of the veteran players he has brought in to keep them competitive. Brandon Sutter was never going to replace what Kesler did for the Canucks. Everyone who pays attention to hockey said so when that trade was made, and now he is going to be the second line C? If instead of bringing in a new 4th line, Benning had done is best to find a guy capable of playing 2nd line minutes, and putting up 50 ish points, giving a guy like Pettersson a chance to break in to the NHL on the wing, in an offensive role, I believe the team would have had a better chance of "being competitive" and supporting the youth.
On a more entertaining note, I was trying to type the word while, and auto correct typed iHole, which is pretty darn funny  - 1970vintage
Yup, Vantel has failed for 4 years to be competitive while bringing in young players, why would he succeed now? |
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Pres.cup
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Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC Joined: 12.23.2014
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He is an idiot . Same style as Botch Pratt and Cox. Create panic sell newspapers, - VANTEL
So you're denying that you back stabbed Trevor?
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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He is an idiot . Same style as Botch Pratt and Cox. Create panic sell newspapers, - VANTEL
I'm not a Simmons fan but there's probably a lot of truth to his statement on the internal struggles between Aquilini, Linden, Benning & Weisbrod.
It's well known FA wants no part of a long rebuild. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Have at it. I can't wait to see your findings. - manvanfan
No thanks, sounds like a deep deep rabbit hole. Here's what Dobber hockey has to say https://dobberprospects.c...ional-prospects-rankings/ the Canucks certainly rate well, but my point was that there are several other teams that have been in similar situations (in the standings), and come out as looking pretty good too. |
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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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No thanks, sounds like a deep deep rabbit hole. Here's what Dobber hockey has to say https://dobberprospects.c...ional-prospects-rankings/ the Canucks certainly rate well, but my point was that there are several other teams that have been in similar situations (in the standings), and come out as looking pretty good too. - 1970vintage
The Flyers being one of them |
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So you're denying that you back stabbed Trevor?
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I don't listen to Cox or Simmonds . Too much Toronto bias, so I didn't hear what he said |
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