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vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Jul 29 @ 9:05 PM ET
The product that the Hawks sell is the team and the players on the team. So naturally, when one of the best players on the team goes down and has been out for months, then reappears to say that he is still working on recovery and only hopes to be ready for camp (after the team virtually guaranteeing he would be for months), the fans will wonder.

With few exceptions, the people on here seem to:

1) want first and foremost for Corey to do what is best for himself and his family
2) believe that without Corey, the Hawks season is not looking very good based on what Stan did in the offseason
3) wish that at least the team had more information so they could make the right move for everyone concerned

Starting or spreading rumors about his issue and its root cause is classless. Wanting to know or speculating about what is going to happen to the team's season based on his situation is not.

- pdx2ord


Good post, think it describes how most on here feel.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jul 29 @ 11:03 PM ET
Does it occur to anyone here that his condition is not physical - and maybe the Hawks doctors are not qualified to help???

It's really sickening to hear the fans here thinking the team's success and their "right to know" comes ahead of a human being's health.

I don't care how long you have been a STH, or how much you pay for tickets, this is above any of that - and all you are doing is showing just how classless you really are!!!!!!

- dahawks8819


You're missing the point here...and calling another poster names certainly doesn't help. This isn't about Crawford's health issues and knowing what's wrong with him. Whatever CC's medical issue I would think we all hope he gets the help he needs long term moving forward and that's more important than any sports team.

The question here is the Hawks framing the situation to fit their narrative. The Hawks claiming that everything is all roses and puppy dogs. Because that's what the Hawks have done since McD took over - they control the message.

But it certainly looks like the Hawks didn't truly know what the condition was regarding one of their own players while telling anyone that would listen he's fine. And it just happened to be the starting goalie who's crucial to this team's rebound this season.

The optics don't look good and the Hawks have a history of medical issues with their own players - See Marty Havlat for starters. I think that was the point trying to be made here.




Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jul 29 @ 11:15 PM ET
While wondering how to deal with a missing Crawford for the coming season - more importantly we should be hoping that they are planning for his permanent disability.

No available goalie is going to be appreciably more able to lead this team to the tournament this year than Ward - none (including Ward, or likely 3ven a healthy Crawford) is going to make this team a Cup contender this year.

What is the plan going forward for the next several years if Crawford doesn’t come back strong?

- StLBravesFan


Agreed, same with any forward like JVR or Neal. Really like the Hawks' realistic way they are approaching the roster and where they are at as an organIzation. Do no harm seems to be the approach as they see what the younger players can do at the NHL level and the prospects below it, including Forsberg.

If they indeed have to move on from Crow knowing what Forsberg can do at the NHL level with a couple/few adequate professional Dman in front of him will help decide the future of the position.

I meant to add this to HB when I read it and will do so now. Agree with most everything this poster posted and have been saying so since last yr ended and into the offseason and FA. Really like how the poster calls out the scribes who scream and yell that the Hawks need to do something now and how foolish that is considering where the Hawks are right now. https://www.secondcityhoc...iority-nhl-2018-19-season




"I mean, I guess it’s a point in your favor that McDonough didn’t say "we’re rebuilding," but the championship "One Goal" stuff was clearly absent. Also, doesn’t he have ticket issues to worry about? Didn’t the Hawks face some attendance and season ticket renewal concerns late last season when the losses were really piling up? Is there any incentive for him to come out and say anything less than what he said about the Hawks’ ambitions for this year, even if the team realizes they’re in a transitional period? The rebuilding question is about semantics to some extent. Are the Hawks in firesale, tear it all down, tank for the #1 pick and add all the prospects and draft picks you can in the meantime mode? No. Are they in pull out all the stops to win as many games as possible this season mode? Again, clearly no. The front office plainly does not have the same mindset they had during the championship seasons, or even two years ago. That much is clear beyond a shadow of a doubt.

The Hawks fans and commentariat are confused by this off-season because they are operating from a fundamentally mistaken premise – that Stan needs to win this year or lose his job. All the actions Stan has taken suggest to me he believes that if this season goes badly, Q is the one whose job is on the line. Stan has never hired a coach, and I think he believes he’ll get that chance before he’s pushed out the door. All his moves (drafting players years away from the league over more NHL ready players, not pushing to overpay the JVR level FAs available this off-season, not swinging big deals for vets that might help the Hawks win this year at the expense of down the road, setting the Hawks up to have a lot of cap space and expirings next summer, etc) suggest a man who believes he’ll be around for the ‘19-20 season no matter what. Is there any other way to interpret what he’s done? He’s got a multi-year plan for this team, and believes he’ll be there to see it through.

By the way, that’s the approach Hawks fans should want from their GM. When you see bad signings and panicky trades in professional sports, a GM with job security anxiety is often the root cause. I don’t know if Stan can build this team back into a title contender, but I’m glad he has thus far refused to give in to the many observers (Lazerus, Myers, Powers, etc) who have formed the "do something" chorus. I think this Hawks team will surprise some people this year without making another move. I expect them to be in the playoff hunt (which is all McDonough is really saying) and then make waves in 2019 with money to spend on impact FAs and young blue line reinforcements on the way. If that’s not "rebuilding" fine, but that sure looks like the front office plan from where I’m sitting."
dahawks8819
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.29.2014

Jul 29 @ 11:31 PM ET
You're missing the point here...and calling another poster names certainly doesn't help. This isn't about Crawford's health issues and knowing what's wrong with him. Whatever CC's medical issue I would think we all hope he gets the help he needs long term moving forward and that's more important than any sports team.

The question here is the Hawks framing the situation to fit their narrative. The Hawks claiming that everything is all roses and puppy dogs. Because that's what the Hawks have done since McD took over - they control the message.

But it certainly looks like the Hawks didn't truly know what the condition was regarding one of their own players while telling anyone that would listen he's fine. And it just happened to be the starting goalie who's crucial to this team's rebound this season.

The optics don't look good and the Hawks have a history of medical issues with their own players - See Marty Havlat for starters. I think that was the point trying to be made here.

- DK002



There is a huuuge difference between Havlat's situation and what Corey is going through. So just let it go. It's no one's business but his.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Jul 30 @ 7:43 AM ET
You're missing the point here...and calling another poster names certainly doesn't help. This isn't about Crawford's health issues and knowing what's wrong with him. Whatever CC's medical issue I would think we all hope he gets the help he needs long term moving forward and that's more important than any sports team.

The question here is the Hawks framing the situation to fit their narrative. The Hawks claiming that everything is all roses and puppy dogs. Because that's what the Hawks have done since McD took over - they control the message.

But it certainly looks like the Hawks didn't truly know what the condition was regarding one of their own players while telling anyone that would listen he's fine. And it just happened to be the starting goalie who's crucial to this team's rebound this season.

The optics don't look good and the Hawks have a history of medical issues with their own players - See Marty Havlat for starters. I think that was the point trying to be made here.

- DK002



I have no doubt rou're right on with this quote. And it supports my saying for almost a decade that it's ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. No doubt some STH wouldn't have re-upped if they knew Crawford wasn't going to be 100%. They basically said it by acquiring Cam Ward, which is completely opposite of their off season message of not overpaying and letting younger players play.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jul 30 @ 9:16 AM ET

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