Todd Cordell: Calgary Flames sign Jon Gillies to two-year extension
- ToddCordellCGY

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.
- HonkyTonkMan

No one on here was saying Rittich was a surefire NHL star prospect. I said before the season last year that Rittch had a better chance of being an NHL goalie and was nearly run off the Internet.

Rittich still has a shot to be a very good NHL goalie. He was very good as a backup last year, but he wasn't ready to bail out an imploding team when he became the starter. Most young goalies struggle when they're unexpectedly needed to become starters.

No one on here was saying Rittich was a surefire NHL star prospect. I said before the season last year that Rittch had a better chance of being an NHL goalie and was nearly run off the Internet.

Rittich still has a shot to be a very good NHL goalie. He was very good as a backup last year, but he wasn't ready to bail out an imploding team when he became the starter. Most young goalies struggle when they're unexpectedly needed to become starters.
- Hunkulese

He’s mediocre at best, Gillies is (frank) all.

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.
- HonkyTonkMan

Well he's no Broisant! Now take a hike.

Well he's no Broisant! Now take a hike.
- K-man25

He's also no bennett... but hey a 3 year 4th overall is worth more than a 3 year 1st overall when they put up comparable numbers. Just cuz one supposedly backchecks and takes more bad penalties and can supposedly take a faceoff once in a while...

But Bennett = more than Yakupov...

See how that deal goes come between now and next June. But hey Bennett is only 22 compared to Yak's what age?

Only difference is Edmonton fans were willing to accept Yak was near bust. Flames fans deny Bennett is busting. Compare the stats.... yak was a highly regarded offensive force, it blew up. Bennett was a highly regarded 2 way force... it has?

He's also no bennett... but hey a 3 year 4th overall is worth more than a 3 year 1st overall when they put up comparable numbers. Just cuz one supposedly backchecks and takes more bad penalties and can supposedly take a faceoff once in a while...

But Bennett = more than Yakupov...

See how that deal goes come between now and next June. But hey Bennett is only 22 compared to Yak's what age?

Only difference is Edmonton fans were willing to accept Yak was near bust. Flames fans deny Bennett is busting. Compare the stats.... yak was a highly regarded offensive force, it blew up. Bennett was a highly regarded 2 way force... it has?
- wreckage

For the record... enjoy the conditional 3rd round pick and a prospect for him.... but that should also get you Brady...

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.
- HonkyTonkMan

talbot sucks

He's also no bennett... but hey a 3 year 4th overall is worth more than a 3 year 1st overall when they put up comparable numbers. Just cuz one supposedly backchecks and takes more bad penalties and can supposedly take a faceoff once in a while...

But Bennett = more than Yakupov...

See how that deal goes come between now and next June. But hey Bennett is only 22 compared to Yak's what age?

Only difference is Edmonton fans were willing to accept Yak was near bust. Flames fans deny Bennett is busting. Compare the stats.... yak was a highly regarded offensive force, it blew up. Bennett was a highly regarded 2 way force... it has?
- wreckage

Yeah and besides a decent shot what does Yak bring? Maybe the reason he is in the KHL.

I know its a difficult concept for an Oiler fan but patience with high picks is sometimes needed, especially after (frank)ing up their development.

No one here expects Bennett to reach his draft ceiling but there is still a player there. Maybe its a 3rd line 15 goal player, maybe with a decent coach and decent line mates its more.

Funny how you are still salty about Yak......actually kinda pathetic but hey, biggest bust ever is rather fitting for your organization.

Toodles!

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.
- HonkyTonkMan

A year ago we were talking about Parsons. If you want to troll I would go with that, cause I expected a lot more.

But a year ago you people believed LB would be your next starter. Funny how fan bases act, yours is one of the worst.

All you guys were excited to see what Larsson could do on the PP as well!

A year ago we were talking about Parsons. If you want to troll I would go with that, cause I expected a lot more.

But a year ago you people believed LB would be your next starter. Funny how fan bases act, yours is one of the worst.

All you guys were excited to see what Larsson could do on the PP as well!
- DuranDuran

Taylor Hall won the hart .....there’s no response for oilers fans to that

He's also no bennett... but hey a 3 year 4th overall is worth more than a 3 year 1st overall when they put up comparable numbers. Just cuz one supposedly backchecks and takes more bad penalties and can supposedly take a faceoff once in a while...

But Bennett = more than Yakupov...

See how that deal goes come between now and next June. But hey Bennett is only 22 compared to Yak's what age?

Only difference is Edmonton fans were willing to accept Yak was near bust. Flames fans deny Bennett is busting. Compare the stats.... yak was a highly regarded offensive force, it blew up. Bennett was a highly regarded 2 way force... it has?
- wreckage

Well maybe it didnt bother Oiler fans about having a first over all bust because, heck I guess its law of averages & you knew you were going to get another one. So meh, no big deal eh. Also Hall was MVP! That was a damn good pick!

I am pretty convinced that Brady will not be signing with Ottawa anyways, think there will be a deal for him to come play with his bro.
- DuranDuran

Has there actually been any rumours of this? I’m a big fan of Benny, but I would definitely be up for something like that.

I wonder if BT is thinking about bringing Ryan in?

Bennett
Stone
Kylington

Tkachuk
Ryan

Gives us quite a few offensive weapons:

Johnny Money Lindhom
Tkachuk Backlund Neal
B Tkachuk? Janko B Ryan
Frolik Ryan Foo/Czarnik/whoever pushes


Not sure how realistic it is, but we would definitely have depth!

Has there actually been any rumours of this? I’m a big fan of Benny, but I would definitely be up for something like that.

I wonder if BT is thinking about bringing Ryan in?

Bennett
Stone
Kylington

Tkachuk
Ryan

Gives us quite a few offensive weapons:

Johnny Money Lindhom
Tkachuk Backlund Neal
B Tkachuk? Janko B Ryan
Frolik Ryan Foo/Czarnik/whoever pushes


Not sure how realistic it is, but we would definitely have depth!
- Saskabush

Toss Neal on the top line and let the brothers play on the same line.


Old Time Hockey!

Oh, and FFS buy out Brouwer!!!!

He's also no bennett... but hey a 3 year 4th overall is worth more than a 3 year 1st overall when they put up comparable numbers. Just cuz one supposedly backchecks and takes more bad penalties and can supposedly take a faceoff once in a while...

But Bennett = more than Yakupov...

See how that deal goes come between now and next June. But hey Bennett is only 22 compared to Yak's what age?

Only difference is Edmonton fans were willing to accept Yak was near bust. Flames fans deny Bennett is busting. Compare the stats.... yak was a highly regarded offensive force, it blew up. Bennett was a highly regarded 2 way force... it has?
- wreckage

Was kinda hoping we would sign Yak. We got Czarnik for that spot instead. Heard the Oil were trying to sign Czar too. Sorry Oilers.

You guys wasted an entire season being the worst team in the League to get Yak. Ive never seen a team be that bad and the entire roster was miserable. Did my best to watch as many games as I could. The Flames have never finished that low nor picked that high.

It seems barely a year ago that you people were talking about not one but two sure fire NHL star prospects between the pipes in Gillies and Rititch.

Surprise, surprise, you said the same poop about Irving and Ramo and every other dissapointing prospect you guys tend to over rate.

If you guys had a Stuart Skinner I would get the excitement, but truly, you don’t and have not had a goalie prospect that promising for a great many years.
- HonkyTonkMan

First off, every flames fan who even remotely follows the team knows Parsons is the most hopeful of the goaltending prospects. More potential than Skinner.

Second, Gillies is still young along with Rittich and are by no means at all a "bust". Rittich looked great as a backup but couldn't handle being a starter. Being non-NHL ready does not mean they're hopeless it just means more seasoning. You of all people should understand that if you're hoping Pul-whatever-his-name-is works out.

Nice try though

Has there actually been any rumours of this? I’m a big fan of Benny, but I would definitely be up for something like that.

I wonder if BT is thinking about bringing Ryan in?

Bennett
Stone
Kylington

Tkachuk
Ryan

Gives us quite a few offensive weapons:

Johnny Money Lindhom
Tkachuk Backlund Neal
B Tkachuk? Janko B Ryan
Frolik Ryan Foo/Czarnik/whoever pushes


Not sure how realistic it is, but we would definitely have depth!
- Saskabush

Maybe the Sens would do that for 18 year old Bennett, but there isn't a single reason why the Sens would want to make that trade, and the Flames couldn't even fit the cap coming back.

How would you feel if the Flames traded Valimaki and Brouwer to that Russian team for Yakupov?

Maybe the Sens would do that for 18 year old Bennett, but there isn't a single reason why the Sens would want to make that trade, and the Flames couldn't even fit the cap coming back.

How would you feel if the Flames traded Valimaki and Brouwer to that Russian team for Yakupov?
- Hunkulese

I can think of about 7 million reasons why Ottawa would do that deal. We would be clearing 5.5 mill in space, so I don't think cap space would be an issue, especially if we were to buy out Brouwer.

Do you actually buy into the Bennett = Yakupov argument? Bennett has proven that he is (at least) a 3rd line NHLer--Yakupov couldn't even get a contract this year.

The Sens have poopty ownership and one of their best players (Stone) can't be too happy with the direction of the team. Tkachuk would be the price of taking Ryan's poop contract off of Melnyk's stingy hands. Bennett could be a worthwhile gamble & bringing in Stone would be good for media relations (guaranteed there'd be about 10 puff pieces written about the brothers reuniting). Kylington is a decent prospect who should push for a spot & provide some speed on the back-end.

I'm not saying a trade would be likely or that it wouldn't need extra work; but saying Ottawa "Doesn't have a single reason to make that trade" is laughably stupid.

Maybe the Sens would do that for 18 year old Bennett, but there isn't a single reason why the Sens would want to make that trade, and the Flames couldn't even fit the cap coming back.

How would you feel if the Flames traded Valimaki and Brouwer to that Russian team for Yakupov?
- Hunkulese

Maybe take a step back when it comes to Sam Bennett & with a team like Ottawa there is an incredible comparable:

Kyle Turris-Acquired by Ottawa Senators in the 2011-12 Season he was 22 years old at time of trade, taken 3rd overall in his draft year by Phoenix

2008-09 Phoenix 63 games-8 goals-12 assists 20 points (19 years old)
Played AHL in 2009-10 Season Sam never played AHL (couldnt not eligible)
2010-11 Phoenix 65 games-11goals-14 assists 25 points
Traded to Ottawa where he flourished & became their #1 centre.


Sam Bennett-taken 4th overall
2015-16 Calgary 77 games-18 goals-18 assists 36 points
2016-17 Calgary 81 games-13 goals-13 assists 26 points
2017-18 Calgary 82 games-11 goals-15 assists 26 points


If you look at the stats, Sam Bennett is light years ahead of where Kyle Turris was at 22 years of age when Turris was traded to Ottawa. Phoenix got a measley 2nd round pick & an unproven D prospect in Runblad. Oddly, Maloney & Treliving were in Phoenix & Im sure they hated even thinking about this trade as Turris blossomed into the player he was expected & hitting 55-65 points per year.

No way in Gods green earth will they let Bennett go for bottom dollar. & of all teams in Ottawa who know that a player at 22 with Sams abilities can become. I am not saying Sam would get us Brady Tkachuk 1-1, I think you throw Kylington & that has to look pretty enticing to Ottawa. Yes once they trade Karlsson & probably watch Stone get his 1 year arbitration deal to become a UFA they will definitely be in rebuild. But young developed players like Bennett & Kyllington have more value than the bust mentality I see on these threads. Heck no, I dont think we should even consider Bobby Ryan in that deal, 4 years at 7.25mill is horrendous & in Lucic contract country.

I can think of about 7 million reasons why Ottawa would do that deal. We would be clearing 5.5 mill in space, so I don't think cap space would be an issue, especially if we were to buy out Brouwer.

Do you actually buy into the Bennett = Yakupov argument? Bennett has proven that he is (at least) a 3rd line NHLer--Yakupov couldn't even get a contract this year.

The Sens have poopty ownership and one of their best players (Stone) can't be too happy with the direction of the team. Tkachuk would be the price of taking Ryan's poop contract off of Melnyk's stingy hands. Bennett could be a worthwhile gamble & bringing in Stone would be good for media relations (guaranteed there'd be about 10 puff pieces written about the brothers reuniting). Kylington is a decent prospect who should push for a spot & provide some speed on the back-end.

I'm not saying a trade would be likely or that it wouldn't need extra work; but saying Ottawa "Doesn't have a single reason to make that trade" is laughably stupid.
- Saskabush

Dude, how dare you respond to Mr. Positive in such a fashion.

Dude has been posting a lot more since Iggy got banned.

Dude, how dare you respond to Mr. Positive in such a fashion.

Dude has been posting a lot more since Iggy got banned.
- DuranDuran

At least Iggy had a positive spin (on some subjects anyhow). Hunk is the perennial half empty Flames poster... You think with all the equalization money Quebec gets, he'd be a bit more upbeat?!

At least Iggy had a positive spin (on some subjects anyhow). Hunk is the perennial half empty Flames poster... You think with all the equalization money Quebec gets, he'd be a bit more upbeat?!
- geta02it

He can't help himself, he's from Quebec!

Well he's no Broisant! Now take a hike.
- K-man25

Brossoit sucks, but then so did Smid so nothing lost nothing gained. We have Skinner now so who cares?

Brossoit sucks, but then so did Smid so nothing lost nothing gained. We have Skinner now so who cares?
- HonkyTonkMan

might as well plan the parade now eh? just like every other year for the last decade

might as well plan the parade now eh? just like every other year for the last decade
- johnnybanana

Actually Honkys a realist, still an a$$ most of the time but not like some of the donkies

might as well plan the parade now eh? just like every other year for the last decade
- johnnybanana

Don’t mistake my calling you clowns out over rating your prospects repeatedly year after to year to underwhelming results as me thinking the Oilers are something great. McD is great. So is Draisaitl. A healthy Klefbom is an average top pair defender, Nurse may get there as well but likely a 2nd pair guy like Larsson, Nuge is good but everyone else is either unproven or poopty...otherwise they are pretty poopty.

That doesn’t excuse you dinks from being unable to look at Irving, Baertschi, Bennett, Janitor, Kylington, Poirier and all the others with anything but rose coloured glasses.