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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Babcock on relationship with Matthews “It’s not going to be rosy every day”
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buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:40 AM ET
The notion of Babcock not being a "developmental coach" is pretty difficult to measure. We don't hear the dialogue between coach and players. We mostly don't see what goes on in his practices and his off-ice methods. Tough to say.

I think he's been pretty solid so far with the way he has slowly allowed our younger players to play more of a difficult role, while also putting them in a position to succeed.

Look at the way he has handled Kadri. Matthews just has a HUGE level of ambition, and Babcock is progressively appropriating his ice-time and match-ups with first line opposition players.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 8:41 AM ET
Impressive stuff.
Patsy>UG

- 21peter



thank you,
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 15 @ 8:42 AM ET
In hindsight whats worse?
Hall for Larsson or Kessel for Seguin and Hamilton?

- PatC80


In all fairness, Seguin for Kessel isnt that awful. I never like when people put the draft pick in as a player, that would assume that Burke and co. would have actually drafted Hamiltoin, which based on their track record I truly doubt.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:43 AM ET
For what it's worth, and I'm speaking as someone coaching managers pretty much every day, going out of his way to go and talk with Matthews and exchange visions and thoughts is a very, very good thing.

Matthews will be fine. So will Babcock.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 8:44 AM ET
In all fairness, Seguin for Kessel isnt that awful. I never like when people put the draft pick in as a player, that would assume that Burke and co. would have actually drafted Hamiltoin, which based on their track record I truly doubt.
- Archaic



true, for all we know, Burke would have drafted Duncan Siemens instead. Let's position it another way, would you have traded a 2nd overall pick and a 9th overall pick for Kessel?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:46 AM ET
true, for all we know, Burke would have drafted Duncan Siemens instead. Let's position it another way, would you have traded a 2nd overall pick and a 9th overall pick for Kessel?
- PatC80


We're actually talking about the 2 first and a 2nd for Kessel trade?

Is it my birthday?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 8:46 AM ET
For what it's worth, and I'm speaking as someone coaching managers pretty much every day, going out of his way to go and talk with Matthews and exchange visions and thoughts is a very, very good thing.

Matthews will be fine. So will Babcock.

- Scabeh



I think so too; Matthews probably wants more responsibility, and I think he deserves it; I wouldn't be surprised if Matthews gets some time on the PK next season.
Also, give him the C now. At this point, it's a formality. We all know he will get it.
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:47 AM ET
We're actually talking about the 2 first and a 2nd for Kessel trade?

Is it my birthday?

- Scabeh


We can talk about Bergy trades if you want
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 8:47 AM ET
WHC is so bizarre.

Finland loses to Denmark and Germany, and wins against Canada and the USA.

wtf.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 8:47 AM ET
We're actually talking about the 2 first and a 2nd for Kessel trade?

Is it my birthday?

- Scabeh


We've moved past the Carey Price for Bobby Ryan trade rumours.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 15 @ 8:47 AM ET
For what it's worth, and I'm speaking as someone coaching managers pretty much every day, going out of his way to go and talk with Matthews and exchange visions and thoughts is a very, very good thing.

Matthews will be fine. So will Babcock.

- Scabeh

Yeah but... What if Shanahan sent him?
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
I think so too; Matthews probably wants more responsibility, and I think he deserves it; I wouldn't be surprised if Matthews gets some time on the PK next season.
Also, give him the C now. At this point, it's a formality. We all know he will get it.

- PatC80


YES! He is pretty mature for his age (from what I can tell).

A little consistency with the letters is exactly what we need. Let him grow into the role knowing the C isn't going anywhere.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:48 AM ET
Yeah but... What if Shanahan sent him?
- bobbyisno1


Doesn't matter. As long as he did it and did it well.

Babcock is a pro god dammit, I doubt he'd half ass that assignement and did it sincerely.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:49 AM ET
We can talk about Bergy trades if you want
- buddzy


Hey, I didn't start this. You guys did.

All on your own.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 15 @ 8:49 AM ET
WHC is so bizarre.

Finland loses to Denmark and Germany, and wins against Canada and the USA.

wtf.

- TheMussel

Well Canada was only short handed half the game, so there is that.
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:50 AM ET
Doesn't matter. As long as he did it and did it well.

Babcock is a pro god dammit, I doubt he'd half ass that assignement and did it sincerely.

- Scabeh


Babs knows his relationship with Matthews is super important to the culture of the team.

Head coach for 5 more years ------ Captain of our dynasty for the foreseeable future.

They should be tighter than a virgin.
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:50 AM ET
Hey, I didn't start this. You guys did.

All on your own.

- Scabeh


Only because it's your birthday.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 15 @ 8:50 AM ET
Doesn't matter. As long as he did it and did it well.

Babcock is a pro god dammit, I doubt he'd half ass that assignement and did it sincerely.

- Scabeh

Babcock is a pro god dammit....
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:54 AM ET
Babcock is a pro god dammit....
- bobbyisno1




Well he is!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:55 AM ET
Only because it's your birthday.
- buddzy




It's not tough. I was born on christmas day.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 8:56 AM ET


It's not tough. I was born on christmas day.

- Scabeh


The shame Jesus must feel sharing a birthday with you...
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 8:57 AM ET
The shame Jesus must feel sharing a birthday with you...
- TheMussel

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 8:58 AM ET
The shame Jesus must feel sharing a birthday with you...
- TheMussel


Yeah well I'm alive and he's been dead for nearly 2000 years.

I win!
buddzy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.03.2017

May 15 @ 9:01 AM ET
Just found out I won tickets to game 1 - Marlies & Phantoms

Second time i've won tickets to Marlies playoffs this season. Those random MLSE email contests for the Marlies actually give you a high chance of winning.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 15 @ 9:02 AM ET
Just found out I won tickets to game 1 - Marlies & Phantoms

Second time i've won tickets to Marlies playoffs this season. Those random MLSE email contests for the Marlies actually give you a high chance of winning.

- buddzy




Grats man! Should be fun.
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