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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:20 PM ET
See, there is this misconception that he’s a bruiser, or tough, or worse yet - tough to play against. He is “Big” in a Tom Hanks kind of way I guess...
- 1970vintage

When the refs put the whistles away, he could likely be a nice depth guy. I'm not trying to say he can defend, but he does play physical and is large.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:20 PM ET
Yeah he's overpaid in a few situations for sure but in EG's case the contract was a 'redeem yourself" "show me what you can do without an injury riddled year"...and really, hes pretty much in the same position again this year.

I mean the guy gets hurt while relaxing.....

- Brooks_Light


The best JB will do is a grade B prospect and a mid round pick.

Everyone will lose their sh1t, and JB loses his job.

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Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:22 PM ET
The TDL determines his job future IMO. If he moves EG and Vanek for a reasonable return liek he did with Burr/hansen last year I think they'll re-sign Benning
- neem55


From what I remember Hamhuis and Vrbata situations were tough bcus they both had NTC and the teams that they agreed to be traded too were trying to fleece JB big time, now i've heard varying stories about it all, and i'm sure commoners like us will never know the whole truth behind it all But by standing pat that year and not accepting horrible deals, he managed to get Goldobin, and the 4th, which I believe became, Gunnersson & Palmu and Dahlen out of Burrows and Hanson, which is pretty incredible.

If they do re-sign Guddy, there must be a backup plan to trade some other Dman.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:24 PM ET
When the refs put the whistles away, he could likely be a nice depth guy. I'm not trying to say he can defend, but he does play physical and is large.
- neem55


But he doesn’t really, he “gets hit” as much as he hits, and he’s constantly out of position. Anyway, none of it matters, he will either get traded, or he will sign an extension, and we the fans will female dog about both.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:25 PM ET
Montreal has three 2nd rounders, send them EG and be done with it. MB would likely pay that much and is delusional enough to think they can make the playoffs.
- neem55

Hopefully for Josh Brook

Montreal is in a worse spot than the Canucks though so I doubt they make that sort of move.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
From what I remember Hamhuis and Vrbata situations were tough bcus they both had NTC and the teams that they agreed to be traded too were trying to fleece JB big time, now i've heard varying stories about it all, and i'm sure commoners like us will never know the whole truth behind it all But by standing pat that year and not accepting horrible deals, he managed to get Goldobin, and the 4th, which I believe became, Gunnersson & Palmu and Dahlen out of Burrows and Hanson, which is pretty incredible.

If they do re-sign Guddy, there must be a backup plan to trade some other Dman.

- Brooks_Light


I believe that there were literally no teams interested in Verbata for any price
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:27 PM ET
Hopefully for Josh Brook

Montreal is in a worse spot than the Canucks though so I doubt they make that sort of move.

- mauryballstein

MTL has already said they are sellers. Not a suitable parter. If I had to guess, he is traded to the Islanders.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:28 PM ET
But he doesn’t really, he “gets hit” as much as he hits, and he’s constantly out of position. Anyway, none of it matters, he will either get traded, or he will sign an extension, and we the fans will female dog about both.
- 1970vintage

I'm only going to complain about one, personally I think it's best for both parties if he moves on. He doesn't have any trade protection, should be able to make a move. I agree not getting low-balled has likely made JB have more credit, so has being able to get good value (I'm sure rival GM's respect getting good value). I hope he gets two draftpicks or prospects for Vanek and EG, I'll be happy if this happens.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Hopefully for Josh Brook

Montreal is in a worse spot than the Canucks though so I doubt they make that sort of move.

- mauryballstein


Just like E Kane and the Canucks, why would Montreal give up anything for a guy they could have for cash in the off season.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
If they re-sign Gudbranson to a reasonable contract, which is fine, then I hope they trade Tanev.
- LeftCoaster

Both need to go.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:29 PM ET
Hopefully for Josh Brook

Montreal is in a worse spot than the Canucks though so I doubt they make that sort of move.

- mauryballstein

I would agree if Bergevin wasn't the GM. It's too bad we don't have any french players
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:30 PM ET
Just like E Kane and the Canucks, why would Montreal give up anything for a guy they could have for cash in the off season.
- 1970vintage

logic is frowned upon here
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:31 PM ET
I'm only going to complain about one, personally I think it's best for both parties if he moves on. He doesn't have any trade protection, should be able to make a move. I agree not getting low-balled has likely made JB have more credit, so has being able to get good value (I'm sure rival GM's respect getting good value). I hope he gets two draftpicks or prospects for Vanek and EG, I'll be happy if this happens.
- neem55


I would be super happy with an extra 2nd, an extra 3rd and a promising D prospect
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:31 PM ET
Hopefully for Josh Brook

Montreal is in a worse spot than the Canucks though so I doubt they make that sort of move.

- mauryballstein


Yeah I doubt the Habs are looking to get rid of picks and that franchise is in shambles. Realistically, I think the Islanders or Leafs need something like Guddy and have an extra 2nd rounder to part with. Cut our loss and move on. I don't think its the end of the world or Jims job tho.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:32 PM ET
Yup, I think he's toast.
- VanHockeyGuy

What if the club plays .600 Hockey the remainder of the year?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jan 31 @ 12:33 PM ET
logic is frowned upon here
- CanuckDon



It’s more common sense than logic, plus Montreal is giving the Canucks a 1st and Galchenyuk for the twins...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:33 PM ET
Did anyone see Chara vs Getzlaf last night? Chara is still a mean SOB.
- LeftCoaster

Refs should have let them go...Getzloaf would have hung in there I bet...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:33 PM ET
MTL has already said they are sellers. Not a suitable parter. If I had to guess, he is traded to the Islanders.
- CanuckDon

Makes a lot of sense. Could also see the Jackets (especially if they trade Johnson) and really a lot of teams looking for depth (Boston, San Jose, Toronto, maybe even Peg with all their injuries)
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 31 @ 12:34 PM ET
Kypreos and MacLean believe Toronto may be looking for a defensive forward, we have a couple.
They can't take on another contract as they are maxed out at 50, how about we take on Martin and a 2nd, we give up one of our "defensive" forwards, like Granlund?😁
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:34 PM ET
What if the club plays .600 Hockey the remainder of the year?
- LordHumungous

Than we have a top 10 pick and much more likely end up with a d-man drafted.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:35 PM ET
MTL has already said they are sellers. Not a suitable parter. If I had to guess, he is traded to the Islanders.
- CanuckDon

Pack up Guddy and Tanev send 'em to the Leafs for Nylander and their 1st. Call 'er good.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 31 @ 12:36 PM ET
Than we have a top 10 pick and much more likely end up with a d-man drafted.
- neem55

Which I fear may happen.

Dman would be ok though.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:37 PM ET
My peeps and MacLean believe Toronto may be looking for a defensive forward, we have a couple.
They can't take on another contract as they are maxed out at 50, how about we take on Martin and a 2nd, we give up one of our "defensive" forwards, like Granlund?😁

- Reubenkincade

How about anyone but Martin and his awful, awful contract/ability. I'd rather have Bozak, and that is saying something(cause Bozak is not good either).

Don't hate the idea other than that, but Martin's contract is one of the worst in hockey IMO.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jan 31 @ 12:39 PM ET
Which I fear may happen.

Dman would be ok though.

- LordHumungous


be kind of nice to end the year looking like an improved team, I could see it happening too. But still hoping for that top5 pick! All we need is for them to play around .500 hockey over the last 30 and we should get a nice pick.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jan 31 @ 12:47 PM ET
Just like E Kane and the Canucks, why would Montreal give up anything for a guy they could have for cash in the off season.
- 1970vintage

Thats what I said
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