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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:32 PM ET
Pettersson tied for the lead in goals an and points 4 goals 6 pts
- VANTEL


While recovering from the flu
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:33 PM ET
While recovering from the flu
- WhiteLie


Forgot about that.

I think OJ will make the Canucks next year. Just a hunch
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:40 PM ET
Eddie Lack traded to New Jersey
- WhiteLie

WTF?
He was on waivers a few weeks ago.
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 6:45 PM ET
Forgot about that.

I think OJ will make the Canucks next year. Just a hunch

- VANTEL


Its too far away for me to even wager a guess. He has work to do, but still has another half of a pro season+full summer, and a lot depends on what Benning (or his replacement) does with the existing backlog on the current roster
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
WTF?
He was on waivers a few weeks ago.

- Marwood


AHL trade, will report to their AHL team and Dalton Prout will go to the Flames' farm team
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
Its too far away for me to even wager a guess. He has work to do, but still has another half of a pro season+full summer, and a lot depends on what Benning (or his replacement) does with the existing backlog on the current roster
- WhiteLie

He should play a full season in Utica first.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
AHL trade, will report to their AHL team and Dalton Prout will go to the Flames' farm team
- WhiteLie



He was awful. I couldn't believe the mass hysteria when he was traded.
He was a goof.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
AHL trade, will report to their AHL team and Dalton Prout will go to the Flames' farm team
- WhiteLie


Biech thinks Melanson requested the trade. He is familiar with him. Back up to Schneider
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
He should play a full season in Utica first.
- Marwood


If he is not ready I think he would stay with Salo in Finland. He is just like his personal trainer.
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
He should play a full season in Utica first.
- Marwood


If I had to guess right now, I'd say thats where he ends up just based on the D under contract or RFA. But 9 months is a long time for him to improve, he could still surprise
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
Biech thinks Melanson requested the trade. He is familiar with him. Back up to Schneider
- VANTEL


Very good point, forgot about that move
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
If I had to guess right now, I'd say thats where he ends up just based on the D under contract or RFA. But 9 months is a long time for him to improve, he could still surprise
- WhiteLie

I meant before he plays for the Canucks.
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 7:11 PM ET
I meant before he plays for the Canucks.
- Marwood


I think the same, I was just saying that he has 9 months to improve (which is possible) and if they lose UFA's Gudbranson and Biega, that could potentially leave an opening.

So given this team's history with kids, I cannot reasonably bet that VAN sends him down at this point
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 30 @ 7:14 PM ET
I think the same, I was just saying that he has 9 months to improve (which is possible) and if they lose UFA's Gudbranson and Biega, that could potentially leave an opening.

So given this team's history with kids, I cannot reasonably bet that VAN sends him down at this point

- WhiteLie

Both OJ and EP are making the Canucks out of camp and will finish 1-2 in Calder voting.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 7:16 PM ET
I think the same, I was just saying that he has 9 months to improve (which is possible) and if they lose UFA's Gudbranson and Biega, that could potentially leave an opening.

So given this team's history with kids, I cannot reasonably bet that VAN sends him down at this point

- WhiteLie


If Benning is still GM the public will rip him for the pick that is 3 years in the minors as Sergachev will be playing his second year. You know it will be beaten to death in the media. That is why I have a hunch he will play.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 30 @ 7:24 PM ET
Isles need D now to win in playoffs and make JT happy to sign. They have centers like Baily playing wing. They also could use scoring depth in bottom 6. Trade proposal:

Tryamkin, first plane to Russia loving NYC, Guddy, MDZ, Gager(JT's buddy) and Goldoblin for Barzal both 2018 1sts and 2nd.

Spicy in house Calder race to end the season with Vanek traded too. Then Canucks transform rebuild with 6 picks in top 50 of 2018 draft. Plus hockey gods finally gift 10A to Canucks. Then make some UFA moves and Sedins retire.

Start next season with young core that are ready and earning it while sheltered with some vets to build from in this ideal scenario.

EP, BO BB - EP sheltered to learn NHL game by two of the Canucks finest.
Kane Barzal JV - Homer line dishing to pounding finishers with insane speed.
Sven Gaudette Granlund - Check and score.
Gaunce Sutter LE - Take on top lines.

Gadjo, Lind, Dahlen among others learn pro game on Comets and injury call ups.

Dahlin Tanev - Why not use Tanev to break the future in now.
Edler Dobson - Edler good enough to shelter the break in of young D.
Hutton Pouliot - balance and rotate out.
Bouchard used as 7th D in line up for PP on some games and rotates like Stecher.

OJ marinates with Comets until Edler is traded.

Yes it is a best case scenario. But like to end 2017 with something to look forward to in 2018. So have fun with it. I'd be ecstatic for just one of any of the above to work out.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 30 @ 7:25 PM ET
Both OJ and EP are making the Canucks out of camp and will finish 1-2 in Calder voting.
- A_SteamingLombardi


should be half right.

I don't want to see OJ rushed into the lineup, but Vantel may be correct about JB wanting him with the big club, more about job protection and marketing than development.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Dec 30 @ 7:25 PM ET
President > Inexperienced
GM > Inexperienced
Coach > Inexperienced


I just don’t see the issue...isn’t what is happening exactly what everyone wanted to happen? Finish low, be competitive, decent drafts, let the young guys play that push for spots....

Everyone complains when we don’t rebuild, then we start, and everyone complains. If you rush guys it fails. Look at Tyson jost even, has more point then boeser and was younger in uni - nhl is a different story.

We have Good young players looming and grooming. They can enter at the same time like marner, nylander, Mathews or over a few years.

I don’t get the hate for pres, gm. The full blow up and go young doesn’t work.

Even look at the iginla trade, they got poop, didn’t help the rebuild at all. Could have kept him and had a guy who loved the flames and bled the team show their young guys what it means.

My 2 cents





Bakwas
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:27 PM ET
Isles need D now to win in playoffs and make JT happy to sign. They have centers like Baily playing wing. They also could use scoring depth bottom 6. Trade proposal

Tryamkin, first plane to Russia loving NYC, Guddy, MDZ, Ganger(JT's buddy) and Goldoblin for Barzal both 2018 1sts and 2nd.

Spicy in house Calder race to end the season. Then Canucks transform rebuild with 6 picks in top 50 of 2018 draft. Plus hockey gods finally gift 10A to Canucks. Then make some UFA moves and Sedins retire.

Start next season with young core that are ready and earning it while sheltered with some vets to build from in this ideal scenario.

EP, BO BB - EP sheltered by two of the Canucks finest with insane hockey IQ.
Kane Barzal JV - Barzal dishing to pounding finishers with insane speed.
Sven Gaudette Granlund - Check and score.
Gaunce Sutter LE - Take on top lines.

Gadjo, Lind, Dahlen among others learn pro game on Comets and injury call ups.

Dahlin Tanev - Why not use Tanev to break the future in now.
Edler Dobson - Edler vet enough to shelter the break in of young D.
Hutton Stecher - balance and rotate out.
Bouchard used as 7th D in line up for PP on some games and rotates with Stecher.

OJ marinates with Comets until Edler is traded.

Yes it is a best case scenario. But like to end 2017 with something to look forward to in 2018. So have fun with it. I'd be ecstatic for just one of any of the above to work out.

- Nuck4U


Someone's dipped into the Kool-Aid again
WhiteLie
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Dec 30 @ 7:32 PM ET
If Benning is still GM the public will rip him for the pick that is 3 years in the minors as Sergachev will be playing his second year. You know it will be beaten to death in the media. That is why I have a hunch he will play.
- VANTEL


Agreed. I dont have faith that they will ignore the PR issues over proper development; but I still maintain that there is still time for him to improve and earn his spot in the same way Virtanen showed up this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
should be half right.

I don't want to see OJ rushed into the lineup, but Vantel may be correct about JB wanting him with the big club, more about job protection and marketing than development.

- hillbillydeluxe


Like I said it is just a hunch. If he is not close at all I think he will go to Finland again
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 30 @ 7:39 PM ET
Someone's dipped into the Kool-Aid again
- Bakwas



Dipped or dove
Bakwas
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.22.2012

Dec 30 @ 7:42 PM ET
Dipped or dove
- VANTEL


hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 30 @ 7:44 PM ET
Like I said it is just a hunch. If he is not close at all I think he will go to Finland again
- VANTEL


I hope they have learned something from McCann and JV

tough decisions for JB when it comes to getting the roster set for next year. leave room?

I used to like the notion about prospects making the club out of camp but it should be rare for a first year pro player to make the club but I guess that is a gray area too with playing professional in europe.


nice show, https://www.youtube.com/w...=ZPeUzqSyHeI&pbjreload=10
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
Dipped or dove
- VANTEL


I'll ship you a batch when any one of those scenarios develop lol...
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