Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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I did the same. Wasn't around for 10 days. Read the blog, check out a few comments. Nothing to talk about, just some JB hate.
We are all Canucks and we all say idiotic things from time to time. Make quick decisions on players that come back to haunt us. like DP
He was bad last night. I wouldn't mind if he sat a few games same as Hutton did. Little bit of rotation isn't so bad once in a while for young defenders. Biega had a good couple of games and brings a spark to the team.
Not nitpicking just thought he was the worst on the night. Sedin's were also very terrible. - manvanfan
Very objective observation.
Also on Pouliot he did have better games. A lot more then non established vets Stecher and Hutton. But those last two did step up their play last few games.
TG has a good issue to choose how to handle from position of strength for once with Tanev back next game.
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lol...I would not be shocked to see Sedins and Vanek back here next season.  - LordHumungous
Yea it is time to hang up the slippers for two of them . I can see Vanek coming back or staying if he keeps it up . It was really only two very good games he had mixed in with a few decent games.
I expect OJ to be here next year and I am thinking Tanev traded this week.
I think Demko too and one forward will graduate from AHL or prospect.
I am not sure they dive into free agency too heavily so I wont say Kane
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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i would let Guance go or trade him somehow , he scares me in that i believe he might be a playoff series player and a regular season plug his whole career , but playoffs are a distant worry right now.
and in regards to Vanek , a pick 3rd or lower might have way less value than keeping him and letting him keep helping our budding star in Boeser.
IMO the likelihood of trading and resigning Vanek are slim to none, so you weigh in how losing him now or after another year could affect Boeser .
I think the twins will retire , even more so if the second half of the season goes awry again. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Injury prone - VANTEL
If he can stay healthy |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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The kid is horrific, I've been saying this since last year when he was -41 plus we already have a terrible, undersized defender in Stecher.
If we get top 10, Evan Bouchard is hands down my pick, but having said that I havent seen Boqvist (and wonder why he didnt make the WJs) or Ty Smith play yet. - Brooks_Light
He's dynamic offensively. He just hasn't made ANY strides defensively. He's pretty much J. Subban.
Boqvist probably because Sweden already has a bunch of older better D.
I have only seen highlights of Ty Smith. Someone mentioned he could be ready early. I don't know about that. |
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onesmallleap
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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Yea it is time to hang up the slippers for two of them . I can see Vanek coming back or staying if he keeps it up . It was really only two very good games he had mixed in with a few decent games.
I expect OJ to be here next year and I am thinking Tanev traded this week.
I think Demko too and one forward will graduate from AHL or prospect.
I am not sure they dive into free agency too heavily so I wont say Kane  - VANTEL
i would like us to target a center like S.Reinhardt to play with LE going forward. we are stuck with that contract so we should find a playmaker to help maximize the return |
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i would let Guance go or trade him somehow , he scares me in that i believe he might be a playoff series player and a regular season plug his whole career , but playoffs are a distant worry right now.
and in regards to Vanek , a pick 3rd or lower might have way less value than keeping him and letting him keep helping our budding star in Boeser.
IMO the likelihood of trading and resigning Vanek are slim to none, so you weigh in how losing him now or after another year could affect Boeser .
I think the twins will retire , even more so if the second half of the season goes awry again. - onesmallleap
Boeser plays well with any line. I hope Brock can increase Vaneks trade value. We could sign him again next year. |
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i would like us to target a center like S.Reinhardt to play with LE going forward. we are stuck with that contract so we should find a playmaker to help maximize the return - onesmallleap
The more I see the prospects and the current youth the less I see needs to do things now. They are winning me over. Some of these picks will pan out.
Pettersson could be that guy you want to trade for in two years? |
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Yea it is time to hang up the slippers for two of them . I can see Vanek coming back or staying if he keeps it up . It was really only two very good games he had mixed in with a few decent games.
I expect OJ to be here next year and I am thinking Tanev traded this week.
I think Demko too and one forward will graduate from AHL or prospect.
I am not sure they dive into free agency too heavily so I wont say Kane  - VANTEL
I fully expect we will see him this season, especially when Utica is officially eliminated from playoff contention. |
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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Boeser plays well with any line. I hope Brock can increase Vaneks trade value. We could sign him again next year. - VANTEL
i guess maybe , if not i would throw that Vanek money at Kane
On the radio they pointed out that he was bought out for 2.5 or something like that and with the 2 mill we pay him he's essentially making 4.5 this year . He'll likely want 4-6 on a 1 year I imagine , so Kane for 6-7 seems a better investment , albeit term would be way different between the 2 |
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neem55
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Joined: 02.02.2012
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Any pick? You crazy! He’s got a couple good years left and at his price and production...you can’t replace him in FA and expect that many points. High pick, do it, a 4th - no way. Plus he’s got chemistry with boeser (funny how it seems anyone who plays with boeser has chemistry and gets points) - dam he’s good - canucksfan1944
He’s a UFA though. There’s no reason or guarantee he signs with us. Even if there was, his value is sky-high right now and we should be able to land a second or third rounder for him no problem or a solid prospect. Sure, he’s good for Brock, but the kid has produced on every line he’s been on. If anything, Vaneks bump in production is likely due to him, not the other way around. We’ve got enough role models and need to sell high, hoping JB learned from last year and gets solid return again. Otherwise, I’d like to see new management a little more aligned to accumulating draft picks through trade and rebuilding.
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Very objective observation.
Also on Pouliot he did have better games. A lot more then non established vets Stecher and Hutton. But those last two did step up their play last few games.
TG has a good issue to choose how to handle from position of strength for once with Tanev back next game. - Nuck4U
Jamie Olesiak for a 4th round pick. All 3 of them are better then him. If someone is to offer a 3rd for one. Probably should take it. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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i would let Guance go or trade him somehow , he scares me in that i believe he might be a playoff series player and a regular season plug his whole career , but playoffs are a distant worry right now.
and in regards to Vanek , a pick 3rd or lower might have way less value than keeping him and letting him keep helping our budding star in Boeser.
IMO the likelihood of trading and resigning Vanek are slim to none, so you weigh in how losing him now or after another year could affect Boeser .
I think the twins will retire , even more so if the second half of the season goes awry again. - onesmallleap
It’s one freaking game, Vanek doesn’t belong in the top 6. Having him here or not won’t change Boesers growth as a player in any significant way. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Yea it is time to hang up the slippers for two of them . I can see Vanek coming back or staying if he keeps it up . It was really only two very good games he had mixed in with a few decent games.
I expect OJ to be here next year and I am thinking Tanev traded this week.
I think Demko too and one forward will graduate from AHL or prospect.
I am not sure they dive into free agency too heavily so I won't say Kane  - VANTEL
I agree. I'm sure they will try and get a look at some of the prospects at the end of the season. Giving some a few games with the Canucks to see where they are at. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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i guess maybe , if not i would throw that Vanek money at Kane
On the radio they pointed out that he was bought out for 2.5 or something like that and with the 2 mill we pay him he's essentially making 4.5 this year . He'll likely want 4-6 on a 1 year I imagine , so Kane for 6-7 seems a better investment , albeit term would be way different between the 2 - onesmallleap
Nobody is going to pay 4-6 for a 3rd liner who is mid 30's. Maybe if he could skate and play in the top 6 but he can't. |
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i guess maybe , if not i would throw that Vanek money at Kane
On the radio they pointed out that he was bought out for 2.5 or something like that and with the 2 mill we pay him he's essentially making 4.5 this year . He'll likely want 4-6 on a 1 year I imagine , so Kane for 6-7 seems a better investment , albeit term would be way different between the 2 - onesmallleap
Canucks should not offer anyone over 4 years . If it was JT or Karlsson okay but no one else not even Kane. Don't forget you can draft Kane 2.0 with Tkachuk at no risk |
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hillbillydeluxe
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Location: I didn't read it , BC Joined: 09.21.2013
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i guess maybe , if not i would throw that Vanek money at Kane
On the radio they pointed out that he was bought out for 2.5 or something like that and with the 2 mill we pay him he's essentially making 4.5 this year . He'll likely want 4-6 on a 1 year I imagine , so Kane for 6-7 seems a better investment , albeit term would be way different between the 2 - onesmallleap
I'd rather sign Vanek short term, 1 or 2 years, than Kane long term (4+).
Kane makes me nervous, I'm not sure what motivates him beyond money.
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I'd rather sign Vanek short term, 1 or 2 years, than Kane long term (4+).
Kane makes me nervous, I'm not sure what motivates him beyond money. - hillbillydeluxe
He has grown up now but you can find that type of player like Hornqvist or Maroon type or maybe Gadjovich |
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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The more I see the prospects and the current youth the less I see needs to do things now. They are winning me over. Some of these picks will pan out.
Pettersson could be that guy you want to trade for in two years? - VANTEL
i am thinking if /when we trade a d-man. Looking at the stats EG and Tanev are very close to the same , coulple more points for Tanev more hits and pim's for EG, same amount of games.
i would keep EG and give him 4-5 on a 6-8 yr deal , essentially what we pay Tanev now and Tanev will get a raise in the near future , so over the term likely the same money. Gain a few years in age and alot toughness give up some fancy stat stuff.
But 1 has to go |
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Nuck4U
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Location: NY Joined: 10.12.2016
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The kid is horrific, I've been saying this since last year when he was -41 plus we already have a terrible, undersized defender in Stecher.
If we get top 10, Evan Bouchard is hands down my pick, but having said that I havent seen Boqvist (and wonder why he didnt make the WJs) or Ty Smith play yet. - Brooks_Light
Good points. Many have Boqvist as a lotto pick he's getting the EK comparable.
You seen Bouchard play live and I haven't so nice to get that perspective. Like him a lot for Canucks and OJ. That's if they land in probable draft position of course.
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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I'd rather sign Vanek short term, 1 or 2 years, than Kane long term (4+).
Kane makes me nervous, I'm not sure what motivates him beyond money. - hillbillydeluxe
There are more players looking for jobs than there are jobs waiting for players. There is no reason the Canucks should be signing ufa’s to deals longer then 1 year at this point.
At the deadline, all the guys they just signed should be available, they shouldn’t retain salary on any contract that isn’t expiring and they should plan to take advantage of teams close to the cap by taking on bad contracts - though this last bit likely happens in the off season. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Two toughest test for Van's 5OA picks today. Finland taking on the States(Go Finns) and Swedes taking on the Russians. |
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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Nobody is going to pay 4-6 for a 3rd liner who is mid 30's. Maybe if he could skate and play in the top 6 but he can't. - manvanfan
he's our 2nd leading scorer , he's on pace for 50-60 points and 20 plus goals .
i don't think your going to resign him less then 4+ mil , its what the going rate for point producers is
if you can convince him to resign at 2-3 for next year do it now and he'll give the team more value then a 3rd or 4th round pick will probably ever give the team |
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mauryballstein
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.12.2015
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Boeser plays well with any line. I hope Brock can increase Vaneks trade value. We could sign him again next year. - VANTEL
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mauryballstein
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.12.2015
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There are more players looking for jobs than there are jobs waiting for players. There is no reason the Canucks should be signing ufa’s to deals longer then 1 year at this point.
At the deadline, all the guys they just signed should be available, they shouldn’t retain salary on any contract that isn’t expiring and they should plan to take advantage of teams close to the cap by taking on bad contracts - though this last bit likely happens in the off season. - 1970vintage
This exactly
Edit: I would retain salary if it translated to a much higher pick. If Sutter can get you a 1st at 50% retained then I do it or a similar type deal.
At least Hansen comes off the books at the end of the year. But too bad about being stuck with lus contract until the end of time. |
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