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prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:11 AM ET
FA Andrew Sturtz signs with Ottawa.
- D0PPELGANGER


plan the parade!!!
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Mar 29 @ 10:41 AM ET
I wonder if him shutting up is taking the high road, or embarassment. I mean it took all these years right?

I think we all know the answer to that.

- prock

We shouldn't be so narrow minded as to assume it can only be one of the two possibilities you presented.

Cowardice is a large contributor as well.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
We shouldn't be so narrow minded as to assume it can only be one of the two possibilities you presented.

Cowardice is a large contributor as well.

- BlueBallz

bingo
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:10 AM ET
i've been trying to explain his credibility "issues" for a while now. problem is he's really dumb.
- kicksave856


I suspect that SpazzD'oops has not been burdened with an overabundance of schooling.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Mar 29 @ 11:42 AM ET
I suspect that SpazzD'oops has not been burdened with an overabundance of schooling.
- Aetherial

they'd have kicked him out for being an annoying asswipe anyway.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
plan the parade!!!
- prock


who is Andrew Sturtz?

systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 29 @ 4:52 PM ET
who is Andrew Sturtz?
- senstroll


the next Curtis Lazarbeam
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Mar 29 @ 7:34 PM ET
I suspect that SpazzD'oops has not been burdened with an overabundance of schooling.
- Aetherial


Really bizarre comment.

By your logic all teams except for the Penguins would have been happier to have missed the playoffs entirely.

Sens will start the season with the best #1 D on the planet in their line up and a minimum of 3 high end rookies breaking into the line up.

How could you not be excited for next year. The Sens play in Sweden at the beginning of the season (against Colorado) and they have an outdoor game at Landsdowne Park. Awesome season coming.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 29 @ 7:47 PM ET
Really bizarre comment.

By your logic all teams except for the Penguins would have been happier to have missed the playoffs entirely.

Sens will start the season with the best #1 D on the planet in their line up and a minimum of 3 high end rookies breaking into the line up.

How could you not be excited for next year. The Sens play in Sweden at the beginning of the season (against Colorado) and they have an outdoor game at Landsdowne Park. Awesome season coming.

- Tumbleweed


He was right though. It was an awesome season!

Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 30 @ 3:24 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out what I'd do if I was Ottawa's GM.

I guess it depends on the lottery... but say its a 3rd/4th/5th pick overall.

Does Karlsson want out? If so, I think you need to give up the pick this year, and trade away other assets as well... and go full tank.

But if Karlsson wants to stay, now you gotta balance fan support, and making smart hockey moves. The smart move is still to trade him, Andersen, and the rest of the vets, and start from scratch.. so you still give up this year's pick, and draft high next year.

But how embarrassing would it be if they gave up this year's pick, stripped their roster down, and wound up drafting outside of the top-5 next season? Even though Ottawa should be the worst team in the league next year, the lottery makes that a real possibility. That being said, if you keep the pick this year, and keep the core together(lol), do you make other moves to improve the team, at the cost of possibly giving up more futures, or do you just accept the embarrassment of possibly giving up a 1st overall pick for what amounts to a lateral trade at best.

I also wonder what they'd get if they traded Duchene away. Maybe a 1st and a 3rd straight up, from a playoff team? They've burned a year of his contract since acquiring him, and Ottawa and Colorado's records since the trade don't make him look super valuable.

He's on-pace for 57 points this season, but when you consider that he hasn't hit 60 in 4 years, and he's pretty defensively inept. The 6M cap hit for what amounts to a 2nd line C... I mean, maybe that year being burned off is a good thing?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 31 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm still trying to figure out what I'd do if I was Ottawa's GM.

I guess it depends on the lottery... but say its a 3rd/4th/5th pick overall.

Does Karlsson want out? If so, I think you need to give up the pick this year, and trade away other assets as well... and go full tank.

But if Karlsson wants to stay, now you gotta balance fan support, and making smart hockey moves. The smart move is still to trade him, Andersen, and the rest of the vets, and start from scratch.. so you still give up this year's pick, and draft high next year.

But how embarrassing would it be if they gave up this year's pick, stripped their roster down, and wound up drafting outside of the top-5 next season? Even though Ottawa should be the worst team in the league next year, the lottery makes that a real possibility. That being said, if you keep the pick this year, and keep the core together(lol), do you make other moves to improve the team, at the cost of possibly giving up more futures, or do you just accept the embarrassment of possibly giving up a 1st overall pick for what amounts to a lateral trade at best.

I also wonder what they'd get if they traded Duchene away. Maybe a 1st and a 3rd straight up, from a playoff team? They've burned a year of his contract since acquiring him, and Ottawa and Colorado's records since the trade don't make him look super valuable.

He's on-pace for 57 points this season, but when you consider that he hasn't hit 60 in 4 years, and he's pretty defensively inept. The 6M cap hit for what amounts to a 2nd line C... I mean, maybe that year being burned off is a good thing?

- Feeling Glucky?

pretty much zero chance that they give up this year's pick.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 3 @ 8:59 AM ET
pretty much zero chance that they give up this year's pick.
- Nucker101



I agree. That would be a poopty cap to a poopty season to have no 1st thats pretty much now guaranteed to be top 5.

Fascinating situation. It then forces them to try to be competitive next season.. but If they move Karlsson.. they are toast. Maybe they save face and get a nice 1st back from Karlsson?

so many ways this can play out
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 5 @ 10:27 AM ET
The Sabres went full Rommel last night and out tanked the Sens securing last place in the process. Despite this ?achievement? the Sens remain last in our hearts.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
The Sabres went full Rommel last night and out tanked the Sens securing last place in the process. Despite this ?achievement? the Sens remain last in our hearts.
- BlueBallz

so buffalo is in a better position than ottawa.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
The Sabres went full Rommel last night and out tanked the Sens securing last place in the process. Despite this ?achievement? the Sens remain last in our hearts.
- BlueBallz


I heard a quote from a Sens player..(boro..something I think) they played hard since they didnt want to be known as the last place team..you know..player pride etc..

So good on them...I think?
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
so buffalo is in a better position than ottawa.
- kicksave856

Correct
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
I heard a quote from a Sens player..(boro..something I think) they played hard since they didnt want to be known as the last place team..you know..player pride etc..

So good on them...I think?

- senstroll

Well now that they have not last place locked up, we'll have to see if they mail it in the rest of the season. Although, I'm not really sure how we'd be able to tell if they're trying or not.
Cape Breton Bruins
Boston Bruins
Location: long friend time friend, AB
Joined: 11.26.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:40 AM ET
SUMMER TALK
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 5 @ 12:01 PM ET
SUMMER TALK
- Cape Breton Bruins

Sorry, I couldn't hear you. I was making more Kool-Aid.
D0PPELGANGER
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.06.2015

Apr 9 @ 9:39 AM ET
plan the parade!!!
- prock




Boston in five games.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 9 @ 9:57 AM ET
Boston in five games.
- D0PPELGANGER

I guess it is about time for Ottawa summer talk.
BlueBallz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: You lie to everyone else and soon enough you begin believing your own lies. - spatso, ON
Joined: 07.06.2012

Apr 9 @ 11:45 AM ET
I guess it is about time for Ottawa summer talk.
- Feeling Glucky?

I think Thanksgiving was about time for Ottawa summer talk.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
Boston in five games.
- D0PPELGANGER


Doesn't matter.

We now know that if Toronto loses, you will be here to troll, failing to see the difference between an organization with a bright future and one that is completely in the toilet.

If Toronto wins, you will continue to run away from your stupidity in search of a pair.

kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Apr 9 @ 1:31 PM ET
Boston in five games.
- D0PPELGANGER

and you still lose.





again.
drew_doubty
Los Angeles Kings
Location: so know this...I am still talking to sources every day.
Joined: 06.25.2016

Apr 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
Boston in five games.
- D0PPELGANGER

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