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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 29 @ 9:01 PM ET
What would baertchi be worth? Similar return as Hansen?
- canucks1986

Hard to say...this is a big season for him. If he takes another step forward and is on pace for 20-25 goals we could get a decent return from a team with an injury to their top 6. Perhaps a 2nd and a B prospect. Baertchi needs to find a way to stay healthy this year
canucks1986
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Aug 29 @ 9:10 PM ET
Would love to find a way to unload Eriksson. Maybe a team like Washington or St-louis would have some interest before their window closes.

Wouldn't be good rep for future FA signings to unload him after 2 years.

Unfortunately the fit just wasn't there.

I think I would rather eat 20% of his salary then have his full cap hit for 5 more years
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 29 @ 9:11 PM ET
Although I've never met you, I surmise you're a very good man Makita, someone I'd be glad to call a friend......but what the (frank) are you laughing at?
- LeftCoaster


Lefty I think we could be great friends.

I'm laughing at your description of telling your wife she is talking to herself while at different ends of a 2800sqft house, A_SL with his jab at being in different time zones, and my own experiences of saying the exact same thing to my wife but we have 4000sqft to yell back and forth
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Aug 29 @ 9:14 PM ET
6x5.3
- VANTEL


Yeah, maybe 6x5.5
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 29 @ 9:17 PM ET
Lefty I think we could be great friends.

I'm laughing at your description of telling your wife she is talking to herself while at different ends of a 2800sqft house, A_SL with his jab at being in different time zones, and my own experiences of saying the exact same thing to my wife but we have 4000sqft to yell back and forth

- Makita

she's a hard case....she talks to me from a different time zone but gets pissed at me when I talk to her from the next room....WTF
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:30 PM ET
Hard to say...this is a big season for him. If he takes another step forward and is on pace for 20-25 goals we could get a decent return from a team with an injury to their top 6. Perhaps a 2nd and a B prospect. Baertchi needs to find a way to stay healthy this year
- CanuckDon


If he did all of that no point in trading him for that.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 29 @ 9:32 PM ET
Ryan Biech‏Verified account @ryanbiech 2m2 minutes ago

#Canucks have invited the following players to Young Stars:

D Aaron Irving (Everett)
F Danny Moynihan (Alaska)
F Aaron Luchuk (Windsor)

- VANTEL

Moynihan came last year didn't he? played in The ECHL?

Irving and Luchuk were both at dev camp?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:33 PM ET
I can see Dorsett sitting out and giving Canucks 2.6 in cap space and signing White to .750, I also think JV will make the team
- VANTEL

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 29 @ 9:33 PM ET
6x5.3
- VANTEL

2 years at 3.5 or 7 years at 5.6
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:34 PM ET
Follow up on EP & Gaudette prediction. They have BB pay off end of season. JB will then move on from LE and press to waive for off season trade. With cap space Canucks sign controversial Kane to beef up roster.

Youth movement picks up for 2018 season with following players.

Kane Bo Gagner - Captain Bo with in prime vet support of mixed talent types
Granlund Sutter BB - Barely 2L try's to support with two way game
Dahlen EP JV - A youth movement cuts teeth in sheltered role
Goldy Gaudette Burmistrov - Share's middle six role as part of youth
Gaunce/Rodin/Boucher? - whoever survives or thrives previous season
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:34 PM ET
What would baertchi be worth? Similar return as Hansen?
- canucks1986


Thats a sideways move IMO
We save some cap space depends on what's its needed for?
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:40 PM ET
Hard to say...this is a big season for him. If he takes another step forward and is on pace for 20-25 goals we could get a decent return from a team with an injury to their top 6. Perhaps a 2nd and a B prospect. Baertchi needs to find a way to stay healthy this year
- CanuckDon


we have two potential 20-25 goal scorers that are just entering their prime, why trade either?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 29 @ 9:40 PM ET
Thats a sideways move IMO
We save some cap space depends on what's its needed for?

- Nighthawk

If Sven scores 15-18 then trade him. If he is scoring 20-25 then keep him .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:42 PM ET
we have two potential 20-25 goal scorers that are just entering their prime, why trade either?
- Brooks_Light


My thoughts as well 👍
Defeats the purpose of acquiring them & developing to simply move them.
Has to be a no-brainer trade & only good D prospects would make any senses for us. That is highly unlikely. Wingers r not fetching the greatest value.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:43 PM ET
Hard to say...this is a big season for him. If he takes another step forward and is on pace for 20-25 goals we could get a decent return from a team with an injury to their top 6. Perhaps a 2nd and a B prospect. Baertchi needs to find a way to stay healthy this year
- CanuckDon


Your right, he does need to step more this year. 38 points won't cut it for top 6 playing time. As I say this, I would rather see LE with Bo and Boeser. If he can get the 20-25 goals he might expect a contract worth more then 3mil a yr.....and IMO he isn't worth that much, even with the 20goals
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:44 PM ET
If Sven scores 15-18 then trade him. If he is scoring 20-25 then keep him .
- VANTEL



Ok but what does a young 15-18 goal scoring winger fetch on the market?
Trading him is giving up on him & in with a prospect.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 29 @ 9:45 PM ET
Ok but what does a young 15-18 goal scoring winger fetch on the market?
- Nighthawk

a second or a D prospect
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:45 PM ET
she's a hard case....she talks to me from a different time zone but gets pissed at me when I talk to her from the next room....WTF
- LeftCoaster


You're married right, enough said.
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:47 PM ET
2 years at 3.5 or 7 years at 5.6
- manvanfan


You think you are getting 2 yrs of UFA for 5.6? Might be a tough sell.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:50 PM ET
a second or a D prospect
- VANTEL


If he regresses a high 2nd at worst cuz a D prospect is highly unlikely.
Neither would likely happen if he fell off though.
Even at that wingers to me r nothing special nor hard to find.
3rd line production won't excite anyone.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Aug 29 @ 9:50 PM ET
we have two potential 20-25 goal scorers that are just entering their prime, why trade either?
- Brooks_Light

I'd rather role with Goblin and Dahlen in the long run. Grnalund is a lot more versatile than Bae. We have too many undersized wingers in the pipeline
Kaynine
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.15.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:51 PM ET
Follow up on EP & Gaudette prediction. They have BB pay off end of season. JB will then move on from LE and press to waive for off season trade. With cap space Canucks sign controversial Kane to beef up roster.

Youth movement picks up for 2018 season with following players.

Kane Bo Gagner - Captain Bo with in prime vet support of mixed talent types
Sven Sutter Granlund - Barely 2L try's to support with two way game
Dahlen EP JV - A youth movement cuts teeth in sheltered role
Goldy Gaudette Burmistrov - Share's middle six role as part of youth
Gaunce/Rodin/Boucher? - whoever survives or thrives previous season

- Nuck4U


If BB pays off from last yr, where is he in 2018?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 29 @ 9:55 PM ET
a second or a D prospect
- VANTEL

Brian Boyle traded for a 2nd. 32 years old and had 13 goals.
Hanzal traded basically for a 1st. 30 years old and 16 goals.
Hansen for a (late first prospect) and 4th. Pro-rated 12 goals.

24 year old, 15 goals and Sven is only worth a 2nd
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Aug 29 @ 9:55 PM ET
I'd rather role with Goblin and Dahlen in the long run. Grnalund is a lot more versatile than Bae. We have too many undersized wingers in the pipeline
- CanuckDon



Presuming both become top 6 gold for us I agree.
As for Sven it's 25+ goals & versatile up n down the line-up to be here for many years. He won't get any guarantees nor a big long term contract anytime soon. I really don't see any great improvements on his part to give me optimism to the contrary.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Aug 29 @ 9:56 PM ET
If BB pays off from last yr, where is he in 2018?
- Kaynine


My bad. Thanks. Fixed now. Should have included the Sven TDL sale trade everyone is clamorimg for
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