"Last seasons NHL stats don't apply to this issue."
-Nuck4U
- Codes1087

Ridiculous.

pot calling the kettle.... well... nvm..

You asked a question, I answered. You asked who our first line is now, I said we don't have one. If a 1st line center doesn't produce at a 1st line center level, is he really a first line center? If a first line winger is producing at a rate of a 3rd line winger, is he really a first line winger?

AND BTW - you will never find anyone MORE realistic about this dogpoop roster than me. I am not hear to wave any pom poms, and lather a fat pig in lipstick and call her babe.
- Codes1087

Realistic is looking at the options and dealing with it. You are just going off in a tangent to say the team sucks.

The question came after you responded negatively to my post to supplant Sedins as 1st line. Nothing you have added addressed that. You ignore every relevant part of each of my posts to only state the team is bad.

Again read clearly. This is a loser team with two old and slow players as designated first liners. What's your solution to move on from them now. I put all my suggestions out which you didn't address. They were not, as you keep misreading or fail to acknowledge, to make the team into a contender now. But to supplant the Sedins and move on. #rebuild.

Realistic is looking at the options and dealing with it. You are just going off in a tangent to say the team sucks.

The question came after you responded negatively to my post to supplant Sedins as 1st line. Nothing you have added addressed that. You ignore every relevant part of each of my posts to only state the team is bad.

Again read clearly. This is a loser team with two old and slow players as designated first liners. What's your solution to move on from them now. I put all my suggestions out which you didn't address. They were not, as you keep misreading or fail to acknowledge, to make the team into a contender now. But to supplant the Sedins and move on. #rebuild.
- Nuck4U

Picking another fight I see.

Realistic is looking at the options and dealing with it. You are just going off in a tangent to say the team sucks.

The question came after you responded negatively to my post to supplant Sedins as 1st line. Nothing you have added addressed that. You ignore every relevant part of each of my posts to only state the team is bad.

Again read clearly. This is a loser team with two old and slow players as designated first liners. What's your solution to move on from them now. I put all my suggestions out which you didn't address. They were not, as you keep misreading or fail to acknowledge, to make the team into a contender now. But to supplant the Sedins and move on. #rebuild.
- Nuck4U

I am not going off an tangent by saying the team sucks, I am saying the team sucks because they are literally one of the worst teams in the league with the roster they currently have, pre/post free agency.

I have nothing to add. You asked who should replace the Sedins on the top line, and I have no answer, cause I personally don't feel we have any first line quality/talented players.

The Solution, IMO, is to draft/develop. Sell off aging assets for good returns, build through the draft, and preach patience in Utica.

RE: to make a contender now - why would you want to do this. Have you not learned anything over the last 6 years?

You're only as good as your last season, the NHL is not a forgiving league. I don't see a single top line player on this roster period.
- neem55

This

"Last seasons NHL stats don't apply to this issue."
-Nuck4U
- Codes1087

Yeah, he's still a good offensive/PP player, but he's one of those guys who's totally useless when he's not producing. Terrible defensively and soft as butter so he needs to be given sheltered minutes at 5v5..problem is that most of the Canuck forwards need those minutes too

I think he'd be a better fit for a contending team that needs PP/secondary scoring help and has the horses to play the tough minutes so he can be sheltered and do his own thing without having to be relied on too heavily either.


Pretty funny how back when the Canucks were contenders, pretty much any decent UFA got signed for decent money and the TDL was a seller's market and now times have changed when the Canucks suck ass. A guy like Vanek could have been useful to the team back then, especially at a cheap cap hit.
- Nucker101

Agreed, if he is struggling to find a home though, I do think that he can produce well enough in a showcase for the TDL. Definitely do not see him as a multi-year contract player.

I also agree with your earlier posts on keeping the kids together in the AHL, to me this helps in that regard

I am not going off an tangent by saying the team sucks, I am saying the team sucks because they are literally one of the worst teams in the league with the roster they currently have, pre/post free agency.

I have nothing to add. You asked who should replace the Sedins on the top line, and I have no answer, cause I personally don't feel we have any first line quality/talented players.

The Solution, IMO, is to draft/develop. Sell off aging assets for good returns, build through the draft, and preach patience in Utica.

RE: to make a contender now - why would you want to do this. Have you not learned anything over the last 6 years?
- Codes1087

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just not read his posts than get caught up in his endless argument.

Agreed, if he is struggling to find a home though, I do think that he can produce well enough in a showcase for the TDL. Definitely do not see him as a multi-year contract player.

I also agree with your earlier posts on keeping the kids together in the AHL, to me this helps in that regard
- WhiteLie

the ONLY reason I would ever want to sign Jagr/Vanek is to keep the kids in Utica. Stack the AHL with a winning roster, let them get used to a winning atmosphere, sell off as many of these 1 year UFA contracts at TDL for picks, and let the Canucks flounder a bit. The future is not now, and no amount of youth is going to flip this team around while the Sedins/Edler are still on it.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just not read his posts than get caught up in his endless argument.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I literally have nothing better to do with my last 30 minutes of work.

I literally have nothing better to do with my last 30 minutes of work.
- Codes1087

I would have left.

I would have left.
- A_SteamingLombardi

non salary

"Last seasons NHL stats don't apply to this issue."
-Nuck4U
- Codes1087

Taking quotes out of context to apply to something else is a classic detour into BS.

The issue was replacing the Sedins so as not to extend them. Again, we all know the team sucks.

I'm ending this as you got no points to the issue and have driven off into the ether.

Taking quotes out of context to apply to something else is a classic detour into BS.

The issue was replacing the Sedins so as not to extend them. Again, we all know the team sucks.

I'm ending this as you got no points to the issue and have driven off into the ether.
- Nuck4U

captain obvious.

Taking quotes out of context to apply to something else is a classic detour into BS.

The issue was replacing the Sedins so as not to extend them. Again, we all know the team sucks.

I'm ending this as you got no points to the issue and have driven off into the ether.
- Nuck4U

I wish we could do polls here. I feel like I would make you feel silly.

I am not going off an tangent by saying the team sucks, I am saying the team sucks because they are literally one of the worst teams in the league with the roster they currently have, pre/post free agency.

I have nothing to add. You asked who should replace the Sedins on the top line, and I have no answer, cause I personally don't feel we have any first line quality/talented players.

The Solution, IMO, is to draft/develop. Sell off aging assets for good returns, build through the draft, and preach patience in Utica.

RE: to make a contender now - why would you want to do this. Have you not learned anything over the last 6 years?
- Codes1087

I didn't see this when I posted last. Will straighten you out again. Reread the post you answered. Solutions were NOT for making contender now. The draft and develop is fine as long term solution. It just comes with an extension for Sedins. Thus not a solution as to how you can replace them now.

Wouldn't it be so much easier to just not read his posts than get caught up in his endless argument.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You are an endless troll. Make another unsolicited negative comment about me anywhere and I will start PM'ing you.

Agreed, if he is struggling to find a home though, I do think that he can produce well enough in a showcase for the TDL. Definitely do not see him as a multi-year contract player.

I also agree with your earlier posts on keeping the kids together in the AHL, to me this helps in that regard
- WhiteLie

Totally agree on both counts. Make it hard for JV, Dahlen and Goldy to make it, while hopefully building up enough value to get another draft pick is a win. One of those three get to play with the big club for the second half of the season. Whoever earns the premotion out of them.

Picking another fight I see.
- Marwood

Same for you as your buddy ASL.

I wish we could do polls here. I feel like I would make you feel silly.
- Codes1087

Probably not, but it would show the vast majority of us know and agree that there isn't a replacement in the lineup yet.
Also, the megaman/canuck avatar change

non salary
- Codes1087

To bad.

Thornton was traded in a terrible deal and the Bruins did win the Cup in 2011 but other than the same team being involved I don't see the point you are trying to make. Maybe that a GM can make a terrible move and still win the Cup?

I don't see the connection to a GM wavering and that team succes, they are separate entities IMO.
- belcherbd

It was a bit of a leap, but from my memory they didnt have Thornton on the market for long and that they recovered from the bad trade. The trade tree from it resulted in 3 players on their SCF team.

IMO, Duchene offers will get worse, as Luongo's did, as Nash's did. Either you want to move him, or you dont; the "only if the offer is good enough" mentality drives me nuts

Probably not, but it would show the vast majority of us know and agree that there isn't a replacement in the lineup yet.
Also, the megaman/canuck avatar change
- neem55

Probably not, but it would show the vast majority of us know and agree that there isn't a replacement in the lineup yet.
Also, the megaman/canuck avatar change
- neem55

I grew up on NES/MegaMan. I felt as though some of the older guys in this blog would appreciate

Same for you as your buddy ASL.
- Nuck4U

How am I picking a fight? I'm just telling people to avoid you if they want to stay out of an endless argument.