Considering this is a weak draft, I probably wouldn't move him for that, but if it was a regular draft, I see his value around 12-15. I'm trying to think of the closest comp to him that was traded recently.
- PhillySportsGuy

Lucic for Jones, 14, Miller?

Bobby Ryan for Silfverberg+10?

Honestly Oshie came to mind because I talked about it earlier, but it's by no means a perfect comparison
- YuenglingJagr

Here are some I can think of that I think you can argue have some similarity

Anisimov+ for saad
Brassard for zibanejad

I would say ROR has more value, but he needed a contract
Same with Hamilton

I dunno...there are others but I don't feel like arguing about why they're different

Lucic for Jones, 14, Miller?

Bobby Ryan for Silfverberg+10?
- Mononoke

I like the Bobby Ryan comparison

I know you hate how rigid Hexy is about it, but Lindblom is on the team next year to start. He just will be. I think Sanheim too. I bet they can't be happier with his development down there in both ends. People speculate about Myers, but he's in the A and should be. Hagg, who knows. Maybe he's packaged; maybe he's on the team. It honestly sounds like they want him on the team, unless there's tire pumping going on (there may be). I imagine they see Hagg and Morin in similar roles. Laughton and Leier are waiver exempt, so both will be on the team or traded most likely.
- Mononoke

I wish I had your optimism, i have a sinking feeling we're going to see Schultz and MDZ signed w/ multi year extensions. The thought of going through another season with MacDonald playing top minutes makes me need a drink.

I wish I had your optimism, i have a sinking feeling we're going to see Schultz and MDZ signed w/ multi year extensions. The thought of going through another season with MacDonald playing top minutes makes me need a drink.
- SimmerDown17

Nah. MDZ maybe...but nah

Schenn's age, fair and not cumbersome contract, "grit," and (theoretical) position versatility do help.

I just think there may be some projecting onto Schenn's value of how WE value him. We know he's a PP specialist and a slight possession drag 5v5 while being a low end 2nd line player. But to NHL GMs, he's a real solid player. Not saying we'd get some monster deal, but would it really be crazy to get a low top 10 pick? Or a quality prospect like Barzal? It doesn't sound crazy to me.

Schenn's age, fair and not cumbersome contract, "grit," and (theoretical) position versatility do help.

I just think there may be some projecting onto Schenn's value of how WE value him. We know he's a PP specialist and a slight possession drag 5v5 while being a low end 2nd line player. But to NHL GMs, he's a real solid player. Not saying we'd get some monster deal, but would it really be crazy to get a low top 10 pick? Or a quality prospect like Barzal? It doesn't sound crazy to me.
- Mononoke

All comes down to potential suitors...every big trade that's been made recently seems to come down to some reason that everyone looks at and says, "oh that's why they did it" even if people don't agree with it. A team needing a top 6 forward? (Carolina?)

I know you hate how rigid Hexy is about it, but Lindblom is on the team next year to start. He just will be. I think Sanheim too. I bet they can't be happier with his development down there in both ends. People speculate about Myers, but he's in the A and should be. Hagg, who knows. Maybe he's packaged; maybe he's on the team. It honestly sounds like they want him on the team, unless there's tire pumping going on (there may be). I imagine they see Hagg and Morin in similar roles. Laughton and Leier are waiver exempt, so both will be on the team or traded most likely.
- Mononoke

I just don't think they'll be enough open roster spot so to fit all of those guys

All comes down to potential suitors...every big trade that's been made recently seems to come down to some reason that everyone looks at and says, "oh that's why they did it" even if people don't agree with it. A team needing a top 6 forward? (Carolina?)
- YuenglingJagr

I doubt Carolina moves youth or picks. I still think the NYI seem logical. Especially if Garth is feeling pressure to make things happen.

I just don't think they'll be enough open roster spot so to fit all of those guys
- PhillySportsGuy

Lindblom-28-17
10-14-93
12-51-11
Laughton/Leier-78-22/24

9-47
Sanheim-3
Morin-53

Idk seems plausible to me. Even if a forward is traded, that's just another spot opening up. Notice my first d pair too....deal with it.

I doubt Carolina moves youth or picks. I still think the NYI seem logical. Especially if Garth is feeling pressure to make things happen.
- PhillySportsGuy

I don't see Carolina either. They're a savvy team too.

NYI, Dallas, Vancouver (1 on speed dial), Ottawa if Ryan gets taken by Vegas as presumed, Buffalo maybe.....I think there's a fair # of suitors. Many of them with top 10 picks or similar value prospects. They're teams who could use a top 6 forward perhaps and aren't the best long-term thinkers. Teams that want to stay competitive. Teams without great management. I think any of these could be logical. But it's all a matter of Hextall wanting to do this. That's the problem.

I don't see Carolina either. They're a savvy team too.

NYI, Dallas, Vancouver (1 on speed dial), Ottawa if Ryan gets taken by Vegas as presumed, Buffalo maybe.....I think there's a fair # of suitors. Many of them with top 10 picks or similar value prospects. They're teams who could use a top 6 forward perhaps and aren't the best long-term thinkers. Teams that want to stay competitive. Teams without great management. I think any of these could be logical. But it's all a matter of Hextall wanting to do this. That's the problem.
- Mononoke

I don't see Carolina either. They're a savvy team too.

NYI, Dallas, Vancouver (1 on speed dial), Ottawa if Ryan gets taken by Vegas as presumed, Buffalo maybe.....I think there's a fair # of suitors. Many of them with top 10 picks or similar value prospects. They're teams who could use a top 6 forward perhaps and aren't the best long-term thinkers. Teams that want to stay competitive. Teams without great management. I think any of these could be logical. But it's all a matter of Hextall wanting to do this. That's the problem.
- Mononoke

NYI we've discussed. Dallas I could see too, but I really think they'd give up assets for defense first. Carolina probably doesnt need to make a trade and would just make the pick, but they did make a move for Jordan Staal (different GM and had his brother obvi)

I know you hate how rigid Hexy is about it, but Lindblom is on the team next year to start. He just will be. I think Sanheim too. I bet they can't be happier with his development down there in both ends. People speculate about Myers, but he's in the A and should be. Hagg, who knows. Maybe he's packaged; maybe he's on the team. It honestly sounds like they want him on the team, unless there's tire pumping going on (there may be). I imagine they see Hagg and Morin in similar roles. Laughton and Leier are waiver exempt, so both will be on the team or traded most likely.
- Mononoke

I think Lindblom is a 50/50 to make the team next year.

I'd be kinda surprised if Morin is not given every opportunity to make the team.

Leier should be given every shot at a bottom 6 role next year. I'm not quite sure how they see Laughton.

If your point is that the draft picks are no guarantee then there's really no reason to mention the Oilers franchise. A lot of the picks they made were good. They were just incompetent. I don't think the Flyers are, so in a similar situation (repeated high draft picks) I'd trust that they wouldn't end up the same.

You can say there's no guarantee, but I think that is stating the obvious. We are talking about odds, not certainty.
- YuenglingJagr

No, we're talking about execution, and all of the many, many factors involved with building a team. You can argue the point that Edmonton doesn't matter in a continued diatribe all you want. Isn't going to change that they are an excellent example that there are no guarantees to anyone who says the Flyers should do what they can, to get higher draft picks.

I wish I had your optimism, i have a sinking feeling we're going to see Schultz and MDZ signed w/ multi year extensions. The thought of going through another season with MacDonald playing top minutes makes me need a drink.
- SimmerDown17

There is zero chance of Schultz being signed by the Flyers to a multi-year deal.

Lindblom-28-17
10-14-93
12-51-11
Laughton/Leier-78-22/24

9-47
Sanheim-3
Morin-53

Idk seems plausible to me. Even if a forward is traded, that's just another spot opening up. Notice my first d pair too....deal with it.
- Mononoke

I just feel like Hexy is going to sign some vet(s) this summer

I just feel like Hexy is going to sign some vet(s) this summer
- PhillySportsGuy

Great! Bringing Umberger back?

Idk. They need to get their hands on a generational talent somehow. The only way to get one is to luck into it.
- PLindbergh31

We had one and still didn't get a cup