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aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Sounds like a Seinfeld episode I watched last night
- YuenglingJagr


You watched a show, in syndication nonetheless, about nothing? Sounds about as productive as arguing with MJL
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:25 PM ET
Kum bah yah.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
What is the meaning of life?
- dragonoffrost

This life or the next one?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 4 @ 1:28 PM ET
What is the meaning of life?
- dragonoffrost

Pain
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:29 PM ET
What is the meaning of life?
- dragonoffrost


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:32 PM ET
The line tinkering by Hakstol says he is not satisfied with things. Moving Schenn off the first line to the bottom six during the Detroit game was to bring more of a scoring threat and punch to more then the top six. It did pay off that game.

I have to say moving Schenn back to center the next game makes me a little uncomfortable, given his history here. I think he is better suited to wing.

I also don't love Raffl and Simmonds on the same line.

I think before the season is over there will be many more line combos tried out.

Would like to see Jake and G back together, with TK or Raffl on their LW.
Also I always liked Schenn with Couts, good chemistry there for sure.

I can understand the coach not wanting to break up the Couts line right now as they look great. But I think he may be forced to at some point.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
Going WAAAAAYYY off-topic here, but had this nerd discussion at lunch:

In X-Men: Days of Future Past, an unconscious Wolverine gets picked out of the river by Mystique (disguised as Stryker) at the end. Three decades pass, and Wolverine suddenly wakes up at the mansion with Jean and Scott alive, and apparently he's a professor.

How the hell did he end up at the mansion? How did he (presumably, I haven't seen Apocalypse) have his adamantium? Why did his time-traveling consciousness suddenly decide to show up at that moment?

Sorry, but these are important matters.

- jmatchett383

Once the timeline was reset his consciousness snapped back to the moment in the future where it had been ripped from. In the new timeline at the moment he was pushed back in time he's now a prof and Jean and Scott are alive.

With his future consciousness back where it belongs his past self continues to live his life through the reset timeline which still includes the Weapon X program that gave him his adamantium and turned him into a super soldier a la Captain American/Weapon I.

Simple.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
Should I trade Tavares for Dubnyk? My only good goalie is Lu and I also have Stammer and Ovi
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
The line tinkering by Hakstol says he is not satisfied with things. Moving Schenn off the first line to the bottom six during the Detroit game was to bring more of a scoring threat and punch to more then the top six. It did pay off that game.

I have to say moving Schenn back to center the next game makes me a little uncomfortable, given his history here. I think he is better suited to wing.

I also don't love Raffl and Simmonds on the same line.

I think before the season is over there will be many more line combos tried out.

Would like to see Jake and G back together, with TK or Raffl on their LW.
Also I always liked Schenn with Couts, good chemistry there for sure.

I can understand the coach not wanting to break up the Couts line right now as they look great. But I think he may be forced to at some point.

- Marc D


I don't mind trying Schenn at center, especially if the other option is Bellemare. I would definitely be okay with Schenn on the same line as coots.

I said earlier as long as the top 9 is those 9 guys I mentioned they can mix and match as needed.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
The line tinkering by Hakstol says he is not satisfied with things. Moving Schenn off the first line to the bottom six during the Detroit game was to bring more of a scoring threat and punch to more then the top six. It did pay off that game.

I have to say moving Schenn back to center the next game makes me a little uncomfortable, given his history here. I think he is better suited to wing.

I also don't love Raffl and Simmonds on the same line.

I think before the season is over there will be many more line combos tried out.

Would like to see Jake and G back together, with TK or Raffl on their LW.
Also I always liked Schenn with Couts, good chemistry there for sure.

I can understand the coach not wanting to break up the Couts line right now as they look great. But I think he may be forced to at some point.

- Marc D



Well said. Lots of different perspectives to look at lineup and line decisions from. We all have an opinion on it, doesn't mean any are facts. Even though the Couturier line has been the best line game in and game out, Couturier's production isn't where it should be, based on who he has been playing with. He has one assist in 12 games. He needs to pick it up scoring wise, in my opinion.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
Should I trade Tavares for Dubnyk? My only good goalie is Lu and I also have Stammer and Ovi
- Giroux_Is_God


Trade Tavares for MacDonald, and VDV.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 4 @ 1:42 PM ET
Should I trade Tavares for Dubnyk? My only good goalie is Lu and I also have Stammer and Ovi
- Giroux_Is_God

really depends on your leagues scoring. Provided its standard yahoo I would say no. The league I play in is scored differently and goalies usually end up scoring a lot. You can stream goalies or find one due to injury
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Nov 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
really depends on your leagues scoring. Provided its standard yahoo I would say no. The league I play in is scored differently and goalies usually end up scoring a lot. You can stream goalies or find one due to injury
- YuenglingJagr

It's roto
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 4 @ 1:48 PM ET
It's roto
- Giroux_Is_God


whoa whoa whoa...I am not a roto guy. I would still bet on Tavares, if that helps
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 4 @ 1:49 PM ET
Well said. Lots of different perspectives to look at lineup and line decisions from. We all have an opinion on it, doesn't mean any are facts. Even though the Couturier line has been the best line game in and game out, Couturier's production isn't where it should be, based on who he has been playing with. He has one assist in 12 games. He needs to pick it up scoring wise, in my opinion.
- MJL

Couturier is an interesting case.

He's bound to see big minutes because of how good he is defensively. Also there is nobody to really challenge for the 2nd like C or even 3rd line C spot right now.

Couturier is the king of the fluke goals but I do wonder about offensive production. Not sure where I am going with this.

twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:08 PM ET
Going WAAAAAYYY off-topic here, but had this nerd discussion at lunch:

In X-Men: Days of Future Past, an unconscious Wolverine gets picked out of the river by Mystique (disguised as Stryker) at the end. Three decades pass, and Wolverine suddenly wakes up at the mansion with Jean and Scott alive, and apparently he's a professor.

How the hell did he end up at the mansion? How did he (presumably, I haven't seen Apocalypse) have his adamantium? Why did his time-traveling consciousness suddenly decide to show up at that moment?

Sorry, but these are important matters.

- jmatchett383

Haven't seen the movies yet but it's probably an alternate timeline. The whole age of apocalypse is confusing. Don't even bother looking into the onslaught story line.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Nov 4 @ 2:11 PM ET
Once the timeline was reset his consciousness snapped back to the moment in the future where it had been ripped from. In the new timeline at the moment he was pushed back in time he's now a prof and Jean and Scott are alive.

With his future consciousness back where it belongs his past self continues to live his life through the reset timeline which still includes the Weapon X program that gave him his adamantium and turned him into a super soldier a la Captain American/Weapon I.

Simple.

- mayorofangrytown


If I could post it from my phone I would put up that slow clap.guy. nicely done.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:12 PM ET
Just looking at the FA pool, as I think 3rd line center is something the team could really improve.

Hanzal is really the only name to jump out.

Draisaitl is the wet dream, but he is an RFA.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Nov 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
Once the timeline was reset his consciousness snapped back to the moment in the future where it had been ripped from. In the new timeline at the moment he was pushed back in time he's now a prof and Jean and Scott are alive.

With his future consciousness back where it belongs his past self continues to live his life through the reset timeline which still includes the Weapon X program that gave him his adamantium and turned him into a super soldier a la Captain American/Weapon I.

Simple.

- mayorofangrytown

The old man still has it.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
Couturier is an interesting case.

He's bound to see big minutes because of how good he is defensively. Also there is nobody to really challenge for the 2nd like C or even 3rd line C spot right now.

Couturier is the king of the fluke goals but I do wonder about offensive production. Not sure where I am going with this.

- flyer_nutter


If moving Schenn to Center is the intended experiment to increase the effectiveness of the bottom 6 I would not be opposed to this.

Raffl-Giroux-Jake
Konecny-Schenn-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Weise
Bellemare-Cousins-Lyubimov
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
The old man still has it.

- FlyersGrace

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Nov 4 @ 2:17 PM ET
If I could post it from my phone I would put up that slow clap.guy. nicely done.
- twotoekenn

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Nov 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
If moving Schenn to Center is the intended experiment to increase the effectiveness of the bottom 6 I would not be opposed to this.

Raffl-Giroux-Jake
Konecny-Schenn-Simmonds
Read-Couturier-Weise
Bellemare-Cousins-Lyubimov

- Baxter27


I get the idea, but I have vivid memories of playing yo yo with Schenn early in his career moving him up and down the whole lineup playing every damn position. He sucked ass at center, and I really hoped they settled on him being a LW'er.

That bottom 6 is going to be a mess no matter what, just have to make due with that they have. Weise to me was supposed to be somewhat of a leader for those guys in the lower lines, waiting to see it.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
I get the idea, but I have vivid memories of playing yo yo with Schenn early in his career moving him up and down the whole lineup playing every damn position. He sucked ass at center, and I really hoped they settled on him being a LW'er.

That bottom 6 is going to be a mess no matter what, just have to make due with that they have. Weise to me was supposed to be somewhat of a leader for those guys in the lower lines, waiting to see it.

- flyer_nutter


Schenn actually looked quite good at Center when he had to fill in for Giroux last year. He wasn't bad in pre season either, especially on a line with Konecny. I would still prefer Cousins in that spot but Hakstol for whatever reason doesn't.

The only way to fully stabilize the bottom 6 is to make a trade or use Couturier as an anchor. I don't necessarily like him being pulled from the top 6 to do that but his game makes a lot more sense there than Schenn's.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
Once the timeline was reset his consciousness snapped back to the moment in the future where it had been ripped from. In the new timeline at the moment he was pushed back in time he's now a prof and Jean and Scott are alive.

With his future consciousness back where it belongs his past self continues to live his life through the reset timeline which still includes the Weapon X program that gave him his adamantium and turned him into a super soldier a la Captain American/Weapon I.

Simple.

- mayorofangrytown


I assumed that the moment he "reappeared" was the moment that he had departed the previous timeline (aka when the Sentinels were attacking).

But the Weapon X thing is more mysterious. If he was pulled from the water in the "new" (reset) timeline, and he awakens during the "new" (reset) timeline, the one where he was found by Mystique instead of Stryker, why did he still undergo Weapon X? Did Mystique hand him over to the project?

Also, in the "new" (reset) timeline, would he have retained all of his memories from both the previous and new timeline? If so, it would suck to know that you'll eventually be replaced by a different version of you.
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