Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 07.13.2006
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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Hi Bill ,
I dont remember what forced their hands on the Gagne trade? Why did they have such a money issue?
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Where have you gone, Phil Crowe?
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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re Gagne:
From what I remember, they were right up against or perhaps a bit over the cap going into that season and Gagne was the only 2 million plus salary that they felt they could afford to do without.
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Any unsigned guys still out there that might interest you guys on the cheap?
Would Vrbata fit on a 1 year deal?
I know Pirri's name has been mentioned.
I am probably in the minority but I wouldn't be against Mike Richards. Could fill a 3rd line center roll with wings like Raffl and Weise who have more speed. Also can kill penalties and was a solid PP player so he could help on the 2nd unit.
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YuenglingJagr
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Location: under the bridge Joined: 10.05.2015
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Any unsigned guys still out there that might interest you guys on the cheap?
Would Vrbata fit on a 1 year deal?
I know Pirri's name has been mentioned.
I am probably in the minority but I wouldn't be against Mike Richards. Could fill a 3rd line center roll with wings like Raffl and Weise who have more speed. Also can kill penalties and was a solid PP player so he could help on the 2nd unit. - J35Bacher
We can sign someone else to be our 17th forward |
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Baxter27
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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Hi Bill ,
I dont remember what forced their hands on the Gagne trade? Why did they have such a money issue? - opeth_pa
I think it was the trade for Meszaros that put them over the edge. |
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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We have 14 forwards, plus prospects like Leier & veterans like McDonald in the AHL who can be called up. This also assumes Konecny goes back to Junior.
Giroux
Voracek
Simmonds
Schenn
Couturier
Raffl
Weise
Read
Cousins
Laughton
Bellemare
VdV
Big Boyd Gordon
Lyubimov
Weal |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I think it was the trade for Meszaros that put them over the edge. - Baxter27
That sounds right.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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We have 14 forwards, plus prospects like Leier & veterans like McDonald in the AHL who can be called up. This also assumes Konecny goes back to Junior.
Giroux
Voracek
Simmonds
Schenn
Couturier
Raffl
Weise
Read
Laughton
Cousins
Bellemare
VdV
Lyubimov
Weal - Feanor
Yeah, I don't see them signing anyone else this offseason other than Schenn and Manning. I do still think there is at least some chance that a veteran Dman could be moved before the start of the season, but even that is probably unlikely.
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Yeah, I don't see them signing anyone else this offseason other than Schenn and Manning. I do still think there is at least some chance that a veteran Dman could be moved before the start of the season, but even that is probably unlikely. - BiggE
Who sneaks into the top 6? I assume you have:
Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
(player) - Couturier - Voracek
I would almost rather have Konecny in the top 6 and then follow up with some combination of bottom 6 role players
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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Johansson requesting 5.25, Caps are trying to get him at 3.85.
Will this be a comparable for Schenn?
I feel like that is probably where Schenn will be looking. The 5.25-5.75 range |
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arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philly, PA Joined: 06.10.2013
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^ I personally would like to give Laughton a look with Couts and Jake before Konecny. Konecny will really have to amaze the coaches and management to not only fill a top 6 spot, but to just make the team itself. |
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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: The Implication Joined: 12.13.2011
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I think it was the trade for Meszaros that put them over the edge. - Baxter27
Ah right I had forgotten about that deal.. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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^ I personally would like to give Laughton a look with Couts and Jake before Konecny. Konecny will really have to amaze the coaches and management to not only fill a top 6 spot, but to just make the team itself. - arichardson22
I would be ok with Laughton in the top 6.
ScHenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Laughton - Couturier - Voracek
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Baxter27
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Joined: 12.03.2007
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Asking out of curiosity and ignorance,
Matt Pfeffer mentioned a goal differential metric when comparing Weber and Subban. Is it likely this metric would be crossed referenced with a very specific quality of competition metric? Considering Weber played in the best division and Subban in the worst, I would think it would be necessary to do so. How specific would a QOC metric get? I would hope it can tell the difference between the top line of the Toronto Maple Leafs vs the Chicago Black Hawks? |
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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Who sneaks into the top 6? I assume you have:
Schenn - Giroux - Simmonds
(player) - Couturier - Voracek
I would almost rather have Konecny in the top 6 and then follow up with some combination of bottom 6 role players - J35Bacher
Really hard to say. Konecny will need a huge camp to win that spot. Laughton could step up and take it too. If not, it will likely go to Raffl.
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BiggE
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Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM! Joined: 04.17.2012
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I would be ok with Laughton in the top 6.
ScHenn - Giroux - Simmonds
Laughton - Couturier - Voracek - J35Bacher
If Laughton can succeed in that role, that would be my preference. It would also free up Raffl to be 3C if Cousins struggles. That being said, hopefully Cousins plays well and the bottom six look something like:
Raffl-Cousins-Weise
Gordon with some combo of Lyub, Read, Bellemare, VDV or perhaps Bardreau or Leier.
Bardreau and Leier will only be kept up if they are in the top 12, they won't be carried as spares. Weal probably has little chance to make the team other than as a spare forward if they carry 14.
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jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Where have you gone, Phil Crowe?
- BiggE
I know one poster on here who will think he was a good player. Still better than Roman Vopat.
I was a big Geoff Sanderson fan and was happy when the Flyers signed him. I was wrong. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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If Laughton can succeed in that role, that would be my preference. It would also free up Raffl to be 3C if Cousins struggles. That being said, hopefully Cousins plays well and the bottom six look something like:
Raffl-Cousins-Weise
Gordon with some combo of Lyub, Read, Bellemare, VDV or perhaps Bardreau or Leier.
Bardreau and Leier will only be kept up if they are in the top 12, they won't be carried as spares. Weal probably has little chance to make the team other than as a spare forward if they carry 14. - BiggE
Should be fun to watch to bottom 6 guys battle.
I agree with Badreau and Leier. Could see them up if they out play Cousins or Read. But also could see them up if players are moved out.
I see Read being moved this year. I think Vandevelde will be in Lehigh Valley.
Will be interesting to see what guys battle for those bottom 6 roles. |
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Feanor
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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Johansson requesting 5.25, Caps are trying to get him at 3.85.
Will this be a comparable for Schenn?
I feel like that is probably where Schenn will be looking. The 5.25-5.75 range - J35Bacher
Yeah, I think so. Just add $0.6m to each number. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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Johansson requesting 5.25, Caps are trying to get him at 3.85.
Will this be a comparable for Schenn?
I feel like that is probably where Schenn will be looking. The 5.25-5.75 range - J35Bacher
After last season Schenn has a better chance of getting 5 than Johansson does.
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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: DE Joined: 02.13.2013
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^ I personally would like to give Laughton a look with Couts and Jake before Konecny. Konecny will really have to amaze the coaches and management to not only fill a top 6 spot, but to just make the team itself. - arichardson22
The first three games will be very interesting because with Schenn serving that absurd suspension, two of Raffl, Laughton, Weise, etc. will be in the top 6.
Raffl-Giroux-Voracek
Laughton-Couturier-Simmonds
Read-Cousins-Weise
Lyubimov-Gordon-Bellemare
VdV or Weal as extra forward
Schenn - suspended
I left Gordon off my earlier list of forwards...
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Giroux
Voracek
Simmonds
Couturier
Schenn
Read
Raffl
Weiss
Gordon
Bellmare
Laughton
Cousins
Maybe Konecny sneaks in? I would venture those 12 will be on the ice opening day. I don't know who's playing with who or what multiple position forwards are playing wing/center, but that's an educated guess for October. |
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J35Bacher
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.03.2014
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The first three games will be very interesting because with Schenn serving that absurd suspension, two of Raffl, Laughton, Weise, etc. will be in the top 6. - Feanor
I forgot about that.
I know Hextall is against the 9 game thing but would you keep Konecny if he has a great camp and see what happens?
Raffl - Giroux - Voracek
Konecny - Couturier- Simmonds
Laughton - Cousins - Weise
Read - Gordon - Bellemare
Unless Leier has a great camp or maybe someone like Abul-Kabel really surprises.
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