Actually a guy that thinks like that does work for them his name is Benning. He actually came out just last week and said he would like to trade to upgrade his second line winger.


He actually works for the Canucks instead of just sitting back and criticizing them.
- VANTEL

Then you wonder why Benning gets criticized so much.

That's the thing, when we started off poorly and people clamoured for a tank I said most wouldn't have the stomach for it. Here we are just a few months later and people are aching to be competitive again. Sometimes you have to take some lumps along the way.
- golfingsince

Yeah but Lefty is the guy who all spring was saying bring in Stamkos at 11 mil and two days ago trade for RNH . I also wanted Stamkos but I don't sit here and tell everyone D&D , no shortcuts like he is doing .

Yes Stamkos won't cost picks seeing he was a Free Agent but he will handcuff any big moves for 8 years.

Then you wonder why Benning gets criticized so much.
- golfingsince

Benning doesn't get criticized all that much . As pointed out the other day by some posters, it is a handful of know it alls that come in and daily criticize the team , the direction , the management. Guys like Belcher Yourself Lefty Nucker constantly think you are smarter than JB and know what's best for the team while most are happy with what he has done.

He has changed the looks of the Comets and Canucks .

Like Hillbilly said in his last post , this is pretty much the core.

Sven in his first full year scores 15 goals . He is seriously better suited and so is the team as a third liner for now. The draft is over , and no Free Agents fill that need. The remaining answer is trade.

I don't hear a lot of people screaming at Benning, only a handful screaming louder than anyone.

No Vantel, they don't! You're definition of a core is a bunch of veterans who either aren't very good or they're just ok nhl'ers, Sutter, Hansen....or they're nhlers who are old and their best days are behind them...Sedins.

The Sutter's, Hansens and such are the players Chicago keeps getting rid of so they can keep their core together.

People need to stop trying to squeeze every ounce out of this older tired group, which you've said yourself. Establishing the next group of core players involves drafting and developing, not trading away your youth to compete now with a team that has no chance of winning a Cup.
- LeftCoaster

Truth here ...there is some pieces who can be part of the core that are drafted already but until they are regulars in the lineup and playing their inevitable roles they aren't part of the core

Seriously you criticize others about wanting players but you have not problem bringing in RNH who is the third line center of the 29 th place tea, for his 12 goals and 6 mil contract? What happened to D&D
- VANTEL

RNH for the right price would be a great fit ...he is only 23 and is only a third line center because his team added McJesus and drai who both could be number ones on a lot of teams ...if RNH put on a Canucks jersey he would be a number two and could allow bo to develop while the sedins transition away

Truth here ...there is some pieces who can be part of the core that are drafted already but until they are regulars in the lineup and playing their inevitable roles they aren't part of the core
- Redmile247

A core is a group of players that will probably be here for the next 5 years.

Eriksson
Bo
Gudbrandson
Tanev ( four years)
Sutter
Markstrom (4 years)


It usually is 7 /8 players that make a core

I listed 6 . I am sure there will be some existing picks or players still on the team in 5 years. Edler is signed for 3 . A little shy but Close.

You're missing the entire point, you can't see the forest for the trees...they haven't established a core of players for when the Sedins retire. I'm 100% opposed to trading anymore youth until they find that group.

You're making this huge (wrong) assumption all these kids will turn out just as projected, the truth is, you don't know. So have patience and develop them. Once you've found you're #1 center and your #1 dman then trade some of your youth for help. Like LA did with B. Schenn and Simmonds.
- LeftCoaster

Is the big question mark still, I really hope he comes via the draft in lieu of the trade route.

RNH for the right price would be a great fit ...he is only 23 and is only a third line center because his team added McJesus and drai who both could be number ones on a lot of teams ...if RNH put on a Canucks jersey he would be a number two and could allow bo to develop while the sedins transition away
- Redmile247

Thank but no thanks. You can keep his 6 mil contract and 12 goals . I will keep Bo and his 17 goals and 1 mil contract.

RNH for the right price would be a great fit ...he is only 23 and is only a third line center because his team added McJesus and drai who both could be number ones on a lot of teams ...if RNH put on a Canucks jersey he would be a number two and could allow bo to develop while the sedins transition away
- Redmile247

He's too slight, with shoulder problems. Not built for the west, would rather take Sam Gagner as a stop gap.

Is the big question mark still, I really hope he comes via the draft in lieu of the trade route.
- VanHockeyGuy

When Bo scores 20 this year , fans will be less worried about a number one center.

When Bo scores 20 this year , fans will be less worried about a number one center.
- VANTEL

Hope your right. We still need a 1C though.

PLD would have been the ideal 1C prospect, instead we got a stud D prospect. Maybe this draft with some luck.

A core is a group of players that will probably be here for the next 5 years.

Eriksson
Bo
Gudbrandson
Tanev ( four years)
Sutter
Markstrom (4 years)


It usually is 7 /8 players that make a core

I listed 6 . I am sure there will be some existing picks or players still on the team in 5 years. Edler is signed for 3 . A little shy but Close.
- VANTEL

Do you see enough growth in that core to bring you a Cup?

PLD would have been the ideal 1C prospect, instead we got a stud D prospect. Maybe this draft with some luck.
- VanHockeyGuy

You do realize he has played center for only 27 games

Do you see enough growth in that core to bring you a Cup?
- Canada Cup

Ask the same about Toronto.

You do realize he has played center for only 27 games
- VANTEL

Let's keep an eye on him then. He plays all three forward positions, he was taken 3rd for a reason.

Do you see enough growth in that core to bring you a Cup?
- Canada Cup

I know what answer you are expecting.

Hockey is a team game . You need a variety of players that need to do a lot more than just put a puck in a net.

You need grit , talent , speed, D , goaltending. I think we are well on our way to filling those needs to be an all around team and champion.

Do I feel we will win the cup this year. No

Do I feel we can win a round in the PO. Yes

Do I feel we are on the way to getting better . Yes

A core is a group of players that will probably be here for the next 5 years.

Eriksson
Bo
Gudbrandson
Tanev ( four years)
Sutter
Markstrom (4 years)


It usually is 7 /8 players that make a core

I listed 6 . I am sure there will be some existing picks or players still on the team in 5 years. Edler is signed for 3 . A little shy but Close.
- VANTEL

You can call it your core but I agree with lefty that many of those guys are the types of players tbe Hawks would have traded or let go to keep their core together ...if I'm a Canucks fan I hope that some of those can be switched out for guys like boeser, demko, and OJ

He's too slight, with shoulder problems. Not built for the west, would rather take Sam Gagner as a stop gap.
- VanHockeyGuy

You could be right ...I just see the skill there and think he is one oiler who needs out to thrive

Ask the same about Toronto.
- VanHockeyGuy

Those guys don't play for Toronto.

You can call it your core but I agree with lefty that many of those guys are the types of players tbe Hawks would have traded or let go to keep their core together ...if I'm a Canucks fan I hope that some of those can be switched out for guys like boeser, demko, and OJ
- Redmile247

When Demko comes in Miller goes out

When Boeser comes in Burrows comes out.

When Juolevi comes in maybe Edler goes out

When JV proves he is part of the core someone goes out.

I didn't put them on the core list because you said wait until you know they will be there .

That is 3-4 players I believe that will be here in 5 years also.

When Demko comes in Miller goes out

When Boeser comes in Burrows comes out.

When Juolevi comes in maybe Edler goes out

When JV proves he is part of the core someone goes out.

I didn't put them on the core list because you said wait until you know they will be there .

That is 3-4 players I believe that will be here in 5 years also.
- VANTEL

And once those players have all proven they are what you all hope them to be than your core will be stronger ....this is probably 3/4 years away though and by then probably one of the guys you mentioned won't even be a Canuck or at least won't be on your list

And once those players have all proven they are what you all hope them to be than your core will be stronger ....this is probably 3/4 years away though and by then probably one of the guys you mentioned won't even be a Canuck or at least won't be on your list
- Redmile247

At least, some may be quicker. That's why I think we are a lottery team again this year.

I know what answer you are expecting.

Hockey is a team game . You need a variety of players that need to do a lot more than just put a puck in a net.

You need grit , talent , speed, D , goaltending. I think we are well on our way to filling those needs to be an all around team and champion.

Do I feel we will win the cup this year. No

Do I feel we can win a round in the PO. Yes

Do I feel we are on the way to getting better . Yes
- VANTEL

I guess I see the core as the 5-7 guys that you build around and that you see improving enough to make you a contending. From what I read here, I would have thought that Juolevi and Boeser would be in that group but that Errikson likely wouldn't be in that he wouldn't be a significant contributor by the time you are Cup contenders.

I guess I see the core as the 5-7 guys that you build around and that you see improving enough to make you a contending. From what I read here, I would have thought that Juolevi and Boeser would be in that group but that Errikson likely wouldn't be in that he wouldn't be a significant contributor by the time you are Cup contenders.
- Canada Cup

When do you anticipate TO becomes one?