TJS for Malkin? I didn't realize it was that bad. I hope his fastball returns.
- acdc1206

Good thing he's not a pitcher....10 month recovery! Should be about 6 for him. What kind of surgery did Fehr have? I know it was elbow something.

Good thing he's not a pitcher....10 month recovery! Should be about 6 for him. What kind of surgery did Fehr have? I know it was elbow something.
- sammy87

Cannot find anything specific besides "elbow surgery". But since his timetable to recover was ~3-4 months, would assume it wasn't TJ.

Cannot find anything specific besides "elbow surgery". But since his timetable to recover was ~3-4 months, would assume it wasn't TJ.
- Guile

Could be a tendon issue. My brother had that surgery from tendonitis. Kinda sucks at first you have no forearm strength for a while.

Could be a tendon issue. My brother had that surgery from tendonitis. Kinda sucks at first you have no forearm strength for a while.
- sammy87

That would explain his lack of that heavy power shot for the bulk of the season.

Interesting article on Fleury from Puck Daddy:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.c...pittsburgh-141320921.html

Malkin's elbow might actually shut Ek's mouth...

That would explain his lack of that heavy power shot for the bulk of the season.
- Guile

most likely a problem with the ulna

Malkin's elbow might actually shut Ek's mouth...
- MattStrat

Surgery might make some believe he is more tradable... to a team that is not yet ready to push for a Cup, but in a year or two would...

basically either outcome can be spun both ways.

Both are good. Fleury's better, but is older and more expensive while Murray can still grow and get better. Don't know why that's so hard to understand. Can't keep trying to keep the band together from 09. Look where that got us these past few years.

FYI, if Fleury had been as leaky as Murray this post season he would have had his best post season since 08.
- Victoro311

Solid point there. I still think Fleury is the better goalie on this day. Having said that, Murray was good enough to win the cup with and is only 22. Good chance he could get better...there's also the chance he may never get better.

Surgery might make some believe he is more tradable... to a team that is not yet ready to push for a Cup, but in a year or two would...

basically either outcome can be spun both ways.
- Guile

shhh

Solid point there. I still think Fleury is the better goalie on this day. Having said that, Murray was good enough to win the cup with and is only 22. Good chance he could get better...there's also the chance he may never get better.
- MattStrat

why would he not get better since he is 22?...

shhh
- MattStrat

There is just no point in trying to argue against EK's silly anti Penguin bias

Solid point there. I still think Fleury is the better goalie on this day. Having said that, Murray was good enough to win the cup with and is only 22. Good chance he could get better...there's also the chance he may never get better.
- MattStrat

I think by the end of the playoffs we all have a good idea of what Murr's floor is. And his floor is something that we can win with. This is an issue of cap management and people need to stop making it out to be more than it is (aka a debate about who's the better goalie right here right now).

Solid point there. I still think Fleury is the better goalie on this day. Having said that, Murray was good enough to win the cup with and is only 22. Good chance he could get better...there's also the chance he may never get better.
- MattStrat

Theres a chance Malkin could get a staph infection from surgery and need his arm amputated.

Interesting article on Fleury from Puck Daddy:

https://ca.sports.yahoo.c...pittsburgh-141320921.html
- ReginaPEN15

I have been saying exactly this for the past 72 hours. Keep repeating it. It is JRs thinking as well, from what I can infer based on his comments yesterday.

The big thing is getting MAF to waive his no movement clause prior to any expansion draft.

Unless they get a great offer now for MAF, this is what will likely happen on 16-17.

Theres a chance Malkin could get a staph infection from surgery and need his arm amputated.
- sammy87

I think that's a Beau Bennett possibility. Did he survive the phone call yesterday telling him the made him a qualifying offer? Or did someone hit him in the shoulder when he was answering his cell phone?

why would he not get better since he is 22?...
- martox

It has happened before, a very young goalie winning the cup or performing very well one year, then not very good the next year or future years. It happens with skaters sometimes too.

I think that's a Beau Bennett possibility. Did he survive the phone call yesterday telling him the made him a qualifying offer? Or did someone hit him in the shoulder when he was answering his cell phone?
- PensFan1962

Im surprised the Duck Boat didnt take BB out during the parade.

I have been saying exactly this for the past 72 hours. Keep repeating it. It is JRs thinking as well, from what I can infer based on his comments yesterday.

The big thing is getting MAF to waive his no movement clause prior to any expansion draft.

Unless they get a great offer now for MAF, this is what will likely happen on 16-17.
- PensFan1962

If I'm GMJR my chat with Fleury would include "listen, you can waive your NTC and go here or there, or you can probably end up in Vegas, choice is yours"

So lets go back to getting rid of Kunitz... instead of Flower. People making poop here almost personal, some getting belligerently stupid with trade ideas...


So, Kunitz... make him retire, or where to trade him off to. That will solve our cap issues, I don't believe we are gonna miss him on LW hardly at all with Wilson returning.

I have been saying exactly this for the past 72 hours. Keep repeating it. It is JRs thinking as well, from what I can infer based on his comments yesterday.

The big thing is getting MAF to waive his no movement clause prior to any expansion draft.

Unless they get a great offer now for MAF, this is what will likely happen on 16-17.
- PensFan1962

So much will become clearer on the 22nd when they solidify the expansion draft rules.
Good thing we can bask in the Pens win while we wait!

So lets go back to getting rid of Kunitz... instead of Flower. People making poop here almost personal, some getting belligerently stupid with trade ideas...


So, Kunitz... make him retire, or where to trade him off to. That will solve our cap issues, I don't believe we are gonna miss him on LW hardly at all with Wilson returning.
- Guile

Kunitz isnt retiring and I highly doubt he'll be anywhere but Pittsburgh next year.

Kunitz isnt retiring and I highly doubt he'll be anywhere but Pittsburgh next year.
- MattStrat

His being dealt solves all our problems with cap stuff, and lets us wait and see on Flower Murray.

His being dealt solves all our problems with cap stuff, and lets us wait and see on Flower Murray.
- Guile

What would you honestly give up for Kunitz and why?

What would you honestly give up for Kunitz and why?
- sammy87

The why is extremely easy... aside from a handful of games in this postseason, hes looked done for the bulk of the season, and most of last season. Hes not worth even half the cap hit now. 3.85 million is not worth 4 games in the playoffs.

I'd take a mid round pick, or a B prospect.