If they can gut out a win or even get a point tonight it will be epic and they totally deserve a playoff spot.

Anyone know if Pitt and Detroit have harder or easier scheds than us? Too lazy to check...
- Hextall271

Well, P'burgh does play us 3 times, twice here.

No I mean actually why. I haven't heard any final thing about expansion. Just the usual speculation. Unless I missed something
- Giroux_Is_God

You may have missed the new speculation

Watch the video, easy save, crappy shot. End of discussion.
- Corporate_hater

the discussion ended a page ago bruh

(edit: now two pages ago, thanks for waiting up guys)

No I mean actually why. I haven't heard any final thing about expansion. Just the usual speculation. Unless I missed something
- Giroux_Is_God

I don't think there's any new expansion info in the public sphere, except for that draft bit

I knew darling would get the start. This worries me......

I don't think there's any new expansion info in the public sphere, except for that draft bit
- BulliesPhan87

Wait a second, so if they do an expansion draft (I have no idea how that works so bare with me), the Flyers could potentially lose some of their top prospects? What the (frank), that's BS. Do we get anything in compensation? Anyone kind enough to give me a quick summary on how this all works because that sounds like a lot of horse poop to me.

Wait a second, so if they do an expansion draft (I have no idea how that works so bare with me), the Flyers could potentially lose some of their top prospects? What the (frank), that's BS. Do we get anything in compensation? Anyone kind enough to give me a quick summary on how this all works because that sounds like a lot of horse poop to me.
- Tomfan365

no

/irrational panic attack

Wait a second, so if they do an expansion draft (I have no idea how that works so bare with me), the Flyers could potentially lose some of their top prospects? What the (frank), that's BS. Do we get anything in compensation? Anyone kind enough to give me a quick summary on how this all works because that sounds like a lot of horse poop to me.
- Tomfan365

oh yeah dude. It's crazy. Litrilly all of them are eligible for the expansion draft and I think it's actually a rule that anyone drafted in the 1st round of ANY draft can't return to their respective teams. It's total horsepoop. Believe me. My entire post. Horsepoop.

oh yeah dude. It's crazy. Litrilly all of them are eligible for the expansion draft and I think it's actually a rule that anyone drafted in the 1st round of ANY draft can't return to their respective teams. It's total horsepoop. Believe me. My entire post. Horsepoop.
- Giroux_Is_God

I heard they're sending Giroux to the glue factory as an expansion related sacrifice

Wait a second, so if they do an expansion draft (I have no idea how that works so bare with me), the Flyers could potentially lose some of their top prospects? What the (frank), that's BS. Do we get anything in compensation? Anyone kind enough to give me a quick summary on how this all works because that sounds like a lot of horse poop to me.
- Tomfan365

Short answer:
You can protect a certain amount of players (say, 7F/3D/1G) from the draft. These players must have accumulated a certain amount of games (say, 150) at the NHL level to be available. All players who have not played the requisite amount of games are exempt.

I heard they're sending Giroux to the glue factory as an expansion related sacrifice
- BulliesPhan87

RIP Boxer

Short answer:
You can protect a certain amount of players (say, 7F/3D/1G) from the draft. These players must have accumulated a certain amount of games (say, 150) at the NHL level to be available. All players who have not played the requisite amount of games are exempt.
- jmatchett383

Are these actually right?

Are these actually right?
- Giroux_Is_God

I'm not sure of the numbers, just an example. Here's the 2000 expansion draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft

I'm not sure of the numbers, just an example. Here's the 2000 expansion draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft
- jmatchett383

But the teams get no compensation for losing these players? They need to reduce the amount of teams in the league, not expand.

I haven't necessarily heard the "Kane is better this year because of Panarin" theory before, but I'm not sure I put that much stock in it.

Kane was putting up points long before Panarin came along.

I'm more likely to put faith in the theory that Panarin is riding Kane's coattails.
- johndewar

In the 5-7 games I've watched the Blackhawks they sync together beautifully, both can pass tape to tape and both can finish a one timer as good as any I've seen. Kane is pretty special but Panarin keeps up with him very well and I think Kane does benefit from having a guy who can pass and score nearly as well as he does himself.

I'm not sure of the numbers, just an example. Here's the 2000 expansion draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft
- jmatchett383

Gotchya

I'm not sure of the numbers, just an example. Here's the 2000 expansion draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft
- jmatchett383

I had no clue flyers had Anisimov. And why does wiki have him as a D man?

EDIT: unless that's just the same first and last name for another one?

But the teams get no compensation for losing these players? They need to reduce the amount of teams in the league, not expand.
- Tomfan365

The NHLPA will never allow contaction.

And no, you get no compensation. However, all teams are required to make players available, and it's not guaranteed that all teams will lose any players.

Also, teams need to reach the cap floor. So, if they allow players with NTC/NMCs to be available, a team may take a player like Andrew MacDonald with his inflated contract so that they can reach the cap floor. There are benefits.

But the teams get no compensation for losing these players? They need to reduce the amount of teams in the league, not expand.
- Tomfan365

no compensation

as for the latter, you'll have to convince ungle gary, and I don't think he's watching the forums these days.

I had no clue flyers had Anisimov. And why does wiki have him as a D man?

EDIT: unless that's just the same first and last name for another one?
- arichardson22

Same name, just a coincidence.

no compensation

as for the latter, you'll have to convince ungle gary, and I don't think he's watching the forums these days.
- BulliesPhan87

Bettman would probably be in favor of contraction if the other owners agreed to buyout the teams for more than they're worth. But the NHLPA would never allow it.

I'm not sure of the numbers, just an example. Here's the 2000 expansion draft:

https://en.wikipedia.org/.../2000_NHL_Expansion_Draft
- jmatchett383

This is what I heard yesterday.

The incoming teams, having paid $500m in expansion fees as opposed to $50m like prior expansion, want to have competitive teams. They don't want to come in and flounder for 5 years or more. With Nashville, Columbus, Atlanta and Minnesota in their rear view mirror they don't want to open up in Vegas with that kind of future.

Protection of players is going to be far more strict. They are also saying that NMC/NTC will be in place and unless the player waives theirs prior to the expansion draft teams will be forced to include them on their protected list.

This is going to cause many GMs to try to force through a trade prior to expansion on some of the players with NMCs that they don't want to protect.

Should make things interesting.

Bettman would probably be in favor of contraction if the other owners agreed to buyout the teams for more than they're worth. But the NHLPA would never allow it.
- jmatchett383

I get the impression he likes expansion, if only for more markets and more expansion moneys. I'm not clamoring for it, but I think the whole "expansion is diluting the game" thing is overstated.

Wait a second, so if they do an expansion draft (I have no idea how that works so bare with me), the Flyers could potentially lose some of their top prospects? What the (frank), that's BS. Do we get anything in compensation? Anyone kind enough to give me a quick summary on how this all works because that sounds like a lot of horse poop to me.
- Tomfan365

Wow

This is what I heard yesterday.

The incoming teams, having paid $500m in expansion fees as opposed to $50m like prior expansion, want to have competitive teams. They don't want to come in and flounder for 5 years or more. With Nashville, Columbus, Atlanta and Minnesota in their rear view mirror they don't want to open up in Vegas with that kind of future.

Protection of players is going to be far more strict. They are also saying that NMC/NTC will be in place and unless the player waives theirs prior to the expansion draft teams will be forced to include them on their protected list.

This is going to cause many GMs to try to force through a trade prior to expansion on some of the players with NMCs that they don't want to protect.

Should make things interesting.
- mayorofangrytown

For the Flyers. the only player they wouldn't protect with a NTC/NMC would be AMac, and he may be willing to move depending on what they do with him going forward.