Fine but you have to be super enthusiastic about every Eagles decision
- PhillySportsGuy

I can do that! I love talking pigskin.

soooo you are saying you disagree with him?
- YuenglingJagr

I like Pronman as a change of pace at times, but half of that list is just bat poop crazy. He has his out of left field favorites that he always plugs year after year.

I prefer Button if I'm picking between the two guys

Then you will be told it would have never happened without pederson
- Just5

The Chiefs have won 11 in a row with smoke and mirrors. They don't have great talent. Especially on offense.

i'd rather not see that tub of blowhard lard. how he has a job is beyond me. worst gm in nhl history.
- hammarby31

Figuratively of course, I would never wish that sight upon you sir.

Yeah, you never know how it's going to end up shaking out, too.

Like NSH spent three 1sts on dmen between '05-'09... and it was the guy they took with their 3rd selection in '08 (Josi) that turned out to be the cornerstone.
- Tomahawk

Yup like this Phillips Myers undrafted signing is turning up roses. Kid is 6'5" 205.

40 GP 30 pts +28. undrafted! How did he get through?

How many guys on the list would you trade Morin for?
- PLindbergh31

Maybe 10. Even though Pronman is comically slanted towards forwards, there aren't a lot on his list who have shown me enough to make them worth giving up on the potential of Morin. To take Flyer-bias out of it, if one of Lindblom or Morin were to quit hockey I'd much prefer it to be the former. Between Konecny and Morin I'd flip a coin.

There are forwards in his top 50 who have had genuinely disappointing seasons in Dal Colle and Perlini. Dal Colle couldn't make Team Canada and Perlini was awful at the WJC.

I like Pronman as a change of pace at times, but half of that list is just bat poop crazy. He has his out of left field favorites that he always plugs year after year.

I prefer Button if I'm picking between the two guys
- Mononoke

He had Rocco Grimaldi ahead of Landeskog in 2011.

http://www.hockeyprospect...article.php?articleid=975

The Chiefs have won 11 in a row with smoke and mirrors. They don't have great talent. Especially on offense.
- PLindbergh31

And now Maclin is out, I don't see them playing after this weekend.

Now that the Flyers are doing better I'm trying to set my sights on more reasonable picks that could be available 15-20. Some interesting ones: German Rubtsov -- Russian center with good size who scouts say plays some of the most NA hockey they've ever seen from a made-in Russia prospect. Supposedly he has elite shutdown capabilities with offense, and is one of the best two way players in the draft.

Another one is Clayton Keller. He's only 5'10" but Hexy seems to have no problem picking guys that size (which is basically Konecny-Giroux) with skill and tenacity. He is putting up similar point production in the US National Develoment Team to Eichel and Matthews. Well, you could say they were a year younger when they put up those numbers. Keller is almost an August birthday and one of the youngest players in the draft. He's almost a full year younger than Matthews. He's also a LW. Tomahawk, this kid sounds right up your alley.

And now Maclin is out, I don't see them playing after this weekend.
- Tomfan365

He might play, but most likely will be severely limited. I agree I see them getting beat Saturday as well.

Maybe 10. Even though Pronman is comically slanted towards forwards, there aren't a lot on his list who have shown me enough to make them worth giving up on the potential of Morin. To take Flyer-bias out of it, if one of Lindblom or Morin were to quit hockey I'd much prefer it to be the former. Between Konecny and Morin I'd flip a coin.

There are forwards in his top 50 who have had genuinely disappointing seasons in Dal Colle and Perlini. Dal Colle couldn't make Team Canada and Perlini was awful at the WJC.
- Feanor

If I"m not mistaken there aren't many prospects on that list from the 2013 draft. Drafting # 11, I'd like to draft more of a "sure thing" if that really exists. Morin is a project, but based on his size, I guess he was worth the gamble. I haven't seen him play often, but I don't have a good feeling about where he projects.

I like Pronman as a change of pace at times, but half of that list is just bat poop crazy. He has his out of left field favorites that he always plugs year after year.

I prefer Button if I'm picking between the two guys
- Mononoke

Yeah I mean there are definitely guys you trust more or have similar views/rankings...but its not like you can get mad about it. At least they are different. I dont think Aho is #10 but whatever...I dont think he shouldve fallen that far in the draft either

I also didnt really do much research on it , but from memory, Lindblom was drafted the latest of all of those guys in the top 50. Should be happier about that than anything IMO. Very good value from a 5th rounder so far from Hexy

/MOAT
- PhillySportsGuy

ha!

He had Rocco Grimaldi ahead of Landeskog in 2011.

http://www.hockeyprospect...article.php?articleid=975
- Feanor

and he had shutdown seanie at #2 overall

If I"m not mistaken there aren't many prospects on that list from the 2013 draft. Drafting # 11, I'd like to draft more of a "sure thing" if that really exists. Morin is a project, but based on his size, I guess he was worth the gamble. I haven't seen him play often, but I don't have a good feeling about where he projects.
- PLindbergh31

You should watch some Phantoms games. There weren't many sure things outside the top 10 in 2013.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/draft.php?year=2013

and he had shutdown seanie at #2 overall
- aightwebang17

Well he can't always be wrong

Coururier flakey (I purposely misspelled it and this was the autocorrect. I prefer this)

If I"m not mistaken there aren't many prospects on that list from the 2013 draft. Drafting # 11, I'd like to draft more of a "sure thing" if that really exists. Morin is a project, but based on his size, I guess he was worth the gamble. I haven't seen him play often, but I don't have a good feeling about where he projects.
- PLindbergh31

Petan, Morrisey, and Mantha from what I can remember.

If anything it seems like the rankings are weighted towards recent draftees, or essentially devaluing players who have stayed in Juniors/minors without completely dominating the league

You should watch some Phantoms games.
- Feanor

What do you think Morin ultimately becomes? Legit shutdown guy?

Okay, I will answer all of you questions, then you answer mine, which you have failed to do ie ignored which in the beginning of this post you said you didn't do which I have bolded.

Also, I also agree with the refs, so you can stop bringing that up because it is just making these posts longer.


1.According to the rulebook, yes what he did before the fight should have directly led to a penalty, because traveled a distance to confront Schenn, and he did this to retaliate from an incident from within the game.


- VladDrag

I think you're interpretation of the rulebook is incorrect. As soon as Schenn dropped the gloves first, there is no instigator penalty to Miller.

2. What isn't relative to the play was when you asked me if Miller would have gotten a penalty if a fight didn't take place. That's what I'm talking about.


- VladDrag

It absolutely is relative to discuss Miller's actions on the play, and if his actions on the play, before the fight happened, warranted a penalty of any kind, including instigation. It's what the entire discussion is about. Millers actions. If his actions before the fight didn't merit a penalty, how can it be considered retaliation? Hence the question. It's simply leading down a path that examines the play.

Now it is time for you to answer questions:

By the letter of the law, not your opinion but the rule book, do you think there should have been a penalty? If the answer is no, then answer the following to questions, please.

- VladDrag

It's impossible to eliminate an opinion, because what the letter of the law is, requires an interpretation. I can only offer an opinion, in my opinion, by the letter of the law, there should not have been a penalty other than the 5 minute majors to each player for fighting, due to Schenn dropping the gloves first, as previously stated.

Did Miller travel a distance?
Did Miller respond in retaliation to a prior game incident?


- VladDrag

In any altercation on the ice, players will travel a distance. Doesn't make it a penalty. Miller did not retaliate before the fight. I do not think that skating over and giving a nudge with his stick to Schenn, reaches the level of retaliation.

By the way these were the questions from last that were asked that you ignored, when you said you haven't ignored anything.
- VladDrag

You're incorrect. I did not ignore anything, in fact, I considered all of it, in reaching my opinion on the subject. I considered every aspect of the rule, in forming my opinion.

^

This is the most annoying looking post ever. Now proceed to accuse me of not talking about hockey.

What do you think Morin ultimately becomes? Legit shutdown guy?
- PLindbergh31

Meaner Coburn with a heavier shot, but not as good defensively and only playing the left side.

Meaner Coburn with a heavier shot, but not as good defensively and only playing the left side.
- Feanor

but is he a turnover machine?!?!

Yup like this Phillips Myers undrafted signing is turning up roses. Kid is 6'5" 205.

40 GP 30 pts +28. undrafted! How did he get through?
- Just5

Can he be our Tyler Johnson/Marty St. Louis, but on defense?

Meaner Coburn with a heavier shot, but not as good defensively and only playing the left side.
- Feanor

Rather have Hicketts

#34, baby, #34

Meaner Coburn with a heavier shot, but not as good defensively and only playing the left side.
- Feanor

I hope he makes it there.