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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
Sorry for being cranky yesterday. Those two games really got under my skin
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
How about moving both hamhuis and edler? They both could fetch guite the haul of future building blocks
- PetrolSexual

Absolutely. Paired up they might get a high 1st or two reasonable 2nds.

Philly has been knocking on Edler for years and I'm sure there are teams that would take Hammer.

Burrows to MTL sounds good for their cup run and Hansen to WPG for their playoffs.

Higgins to anywhere for a 3rd will be good.

THEN...we are headed in the right direction.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 9 @ 3:52 PM ET
Absolutely. Paired up they might get a high 1st or two reasonable 2nds.

Philly has been knocking on Edler for years and I'm sure there are teams that would take Hammer.

Burrows to MTL sounds good for their cup run and Hansen to WPG for their playoffs.

Higgins to anywhere for a 3rd will be good.

THEN...we are headed in the right direction.

- LordHumungous


Don't forget about trading Miller back to Buffalo.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 9 @ 3:56 PM ET
Absolutely. Paired up they might get a high 1st or two reasonable 2nds.

Philly has been knocking on Edler for years and I'm sure there are teams that would take Hammer.

Burrows to MTL sounds good for their cup run and Hansen to WPG for their playoffs.

Higgins to anywhere for a 3rd will be good.

THEN...we are headed in the right direction.

- LordHumungous

I wouldn't mind keeping hansen, still young with great speed and a solid 3rd line producer. Don't forget Trading Vrabata. but to whome and for what?
Woodysdemise
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 02.13.2015

Nov 9 @ 4:50 PM ET
That check is a perfect example of an overreaction by the refs. it's definitely a penalty, but a 2 minute minor is what it should have been. Looked significantly worse than it was. shocking, a player who appears devastated by a hit comes out later to finish the game seemingly unscathed.... just shocking. ( this is an observation on the NHL as a whole and not against the Canucks specifically for the record) Unfortunately the NHL has quite a bit of that soccer mentality wherein once you've been hit, make absolutely sure people think you've been killed to receive the longest powerplay possible)
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 9 @ 4:57 PM ET
That check is a perfect example of an overreaction by the refs. it's definitely a penalty, but a 2 minute minor is what it should have been. Looked significantly worse than it was. shocking, a player who appears devastated by a hit comes out later to finish the game seemingly unscathed.... just shocking. ( this is an observation on the NHL as a whole and not against the Canucks specifically for the record) Unfortunately the NHL has quite a bit of that soccer mentality wherein once you've been hit, make absolutely sure people think you've been killed to receive the longest powerplay possible)
- Woodysdemise


40lb weight difference as well. McCann said himself he had the wind knocked out of him.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Nov 9 @ 5:05 PM ET
Here you go. Don't ring it all in one place.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
I wouldn't mind keeping hansen, still young with great speed and a solid 3rd line producer. Don't forget Trading Vrabata. but to whome and for what?
- Retinalz

Ya sorry forgot Vrbata he for sure needs to go at TDL. I like Hansen too very versatile up/down all 4 lines the thing is we may need to include him in a deal to get some value back.

We need Vrbata to flirt with 20 goals for value at TDL. Many teams need secondary scoring for the playoffs as I fear that Vrbata's primary scoring days might be over. Problem moving Vrbata of course is that he is soft for playoffs and teams will look at that.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 9 @ 5:15 PM ET
Don't forget about trading Miller back to Buffalo.
- Scooby_Doo


How about Miller, Sven and Hammer to Ana for Ritchie, a goalie (Khudobin/Anderson), and Cogliano (salary dump).
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
Don't forget about trading Miller back to Buffalo.
- Scooby_Doo

Whatever gets us the most value!!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:18 PM ET
How about Miller, Sven and Hammer to Ana for Ritchie, a goalie (Khudobin/Anderson), and Cogliano (salary dump).
- dbot

I like it but that's gonna be tough to convince ANA to take more of our throw ways...they already have Bieksa and Kesler underperforming would they take a chance on Miller Sven and Hammer?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
I like it but that's gonna be tough to convince ANA to take more of our throw ways...they already have Bieksa and Kesler underperforming would they take a chance on Miller Sven and Hammer?
- LordHumungous

Didn't you hear? Teams love our throw aways. Anh likes to trade for them, and Toronto likes to pick them up off of waivers or sign them as UFA's.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 9 @ 5:29 PM ET
Here you go. Don't ring it all in one place.


- Beatle_john

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
That check is a perfect example of an overreaction by the refs. it's definitely a penalty, but a 2 minute minor is what it should have been. Looked significantly worse than it was. shocking, a player who appears devastated by a hit comes out later to finish the game seemingly unscathed.... just shocking. ( this is an observation on the NHL as a whole and not against the Canucks specifically for the record) Unfortunately the NHL has quite a bit of that soccer mentality wherein once you've been hit, make absolutely sure people think you've been killed to receive the longest powerplay possible)
- Woodysdemise


I was saying that yesterday. I don't understand how people on the panels can watch a replay over and over and actually not see any of the details... the head snapped when hit... so obviously that means the player charged down the ice(he was standing beside the net and took one step...maybe 2)....... flew through the air(didnt happen)... hit the player from behind(was shoulder to side)... principle head contact(principle contact was body).... long after he moved the puck(less than a second).... even though none of that happened... none of it.

... but the head snapped on impact.... so all that is irrelevant.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Nov 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
Chris Higgins is on a two-game scoring streak after he gave the Canucks a 1-0 lead off a headsy spin-and-shoot move just 2:20 into the game.


Higgins is on a hot streak... wait until he cools and leverage the streak to get a second...
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Nov 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
TDL moves
1. Hammer - 1st
2. Edler - 1st plus 3rd
3. Vrbata - 2nd plus prospect
4. Burrows - 2nd
5. Higgins - 3rd (or 2nd if he's producing like he is now)
6. Weber - 2nd
7. Prust - 3rd

All 2016 draft class picks...
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Nov 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
Didn't you hear? Teams love our throw aways. Anh likes to trade for them, and Toronto likes to pick them up off of waivers or sign them as UFA's.
- Retinalz

lol...true
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 9 @ 5:59 PM ET
TDL moves
1. Hammer - 1st
2. Edler - 1st plus 3rd
3. Vrbata - 2nd plus prospect
4. Burrows - 2nd
5. Higgins - 3rd (or 2nd if he's producing like he is now)
6. Weber - 2nd
7. Prust - 3rd

All 2016 draft class picks...

- kaptaan


I could see JB being more interested in NHL-ready prospects or young NHLers than just all draft picks. Rebuilding on the fly will take some more developed prospects than what you'll find in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
I could see JB being more interested in NHL-ready prospects or young NHLers than just all draft picks. Rebuilding on the fly will take some more developed prospects than what you'll find in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
- WhiteLie

But he may have also learned that what we have in the system is worth the risk. Shink is better than Baerschi. Gaunce is preferable over Higgins. Etc
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Nov 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
TDL moves
1. Hammer - 1st
2. Edler - 1st plus 3rd
3. Vrbata - 2nd plus prospect
4. Burrows - 2nd
5. Higgins - 3rd (or 2nd if he's producing like he is now)
6. Weber - 2nd
7. Prust - 3rd

All 2016 draft class picks...

- kaptaan


Lol its gunna be more like our draft picks being traded than we trade for them.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 9 @ 6:13 PM ET
I could see JB being more interested in NHL-ready prospects or young NHLers than just all draft picks. Rebuilding on the fly will take some more developed prospects than what you'll find in the 2nd and 3rd rounds
- WhiteLie

Yeah we need NHL ready Dmen not draft picks.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 9 @ 6:22 PM ET
But he may have also learned that what we have in the system is worth the risk. Shink is better than Baerschi. Gaunce is preferable over Higgins. Etc
- Retinalz


Im not so sure, guys like Shink aren't his picks so he was probably as familiar with Sven as Shink. Also in the AHL Sven has been better (though been there longer), doesn't mean it will translate to NHL production. I just think if JB can deal for a guy under 25, even if the player only projects to be a 3rd line or 4-6D, he makes those deals instead of hoping a pick over 40 turns out to be an NHLer in any form
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
But he may have also learned that what we have in the system is worth the risk. Shink is better than Baerschi. Gaunce is preferable over Higgins. Etc
- Retinalz

Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Nov 9 @ 6:54 PM ET
That check is a perfect example of an overreaction by the refs. it's definitely a penalty, but a 2 minute minor is what it should have been. Looked significantly worse than it was. shocking, a player who appears devastated by a hit comes out later to finish the game seemingly unscathed.... just shocking. ( this is an observation on the NHL as a whole and not against the Canucks specifically for the record) Unfortunately the NHL has quite a bit of that soccer mentality wherein once you've been hit, make absolutely sure people think you've been killed to receive the longest powerplay possible)
- Woodysdemise


Are you suggesting that McCann embellished to draw a major?
He was clearly shaken up by the hit, and got right up and skated to the bench. He wasn't embellishing anything, he took a massive hit and I think took it like a man.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 9 @ 7:14 PM ET
I said it over and over, the time to move Vrbata was last summer when he was a 30 goal scorer. No one will give a first for a thirty five year old 12 goal scorer at TDL
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