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TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:12 PM ET
It's only disrespect if you take it as such.

While this is very much an open forum, you're stepping into one with an existing and tightly knit group. Let's make an example of this in real life for sake of clearing up the situation:

You're at a bar and there's this group of guys at a table who are always loud and rambunctious and you can't help but overhear them. They're often there when you are so as a result, you begin to pick up on the gist of their conversations. Over time, you begin to mull over the idea of joining them in their antics as you seem to see some similarities and common interests. Then comes the day you decide to join up. You head over to the table and overhear them mocking one of the others in the group. For reasons I'm not at liberty to comment on, you chime in defense of the guy without realizing he's one of the members that doesn't often show up. Suddenly, you've drawn the ire of the most boisterous group members for the sake of defending one of those who isn't really part of the group.

Do you see the picture I'm painting? When the first thing you try to do when you willingly join an existing group of people is attempt to change them, you're not likely to get very far with them. In fact, you could say that stepping in like that was a disrespect to them and, as such, they have a negative opinion of you- regardless of your good intentions. Even though I disagree with what they do, this is the internet; there are few ways to force people to change when you don't even know the person.

- MaximumBone


Exactly. You have to be able to take a joke and be prepared to be roasted to exist here. I mean, hell. JB takes almost as much abuse as a Thai ladyboi's butthole does from Jero and he doesn't let it get to him.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 6:13 PM ET
God alt, stop making up random poop. You're a 16 year old virgin that's never touched a boob, got fired from Co-Op and can't get a (frank)ing job.

Stop saying you have a damn daughter.

Even if you had a daughter, no doubt Jero or HA would take her V-card (of course if she is over 18 )

- Oilers4Life14

Ok Bud. Whatever you say. I was drowning in ass when I was 16. Got married when I was 22 and barely had any since tho
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
Yeah, I appreciate it. That's how it is I guess. Maybe I picked the wrong site to talk about hockey.
- HonkyTonkMan

Oh, we'll talk about hockey. We can turn it on and off really easy. Just bring up a subject and you'll usually get some good responses immediately if people are active. Just sometimes we all feel like being dumb. I mean, this was my first day off in 30+ days, so I took the time to be a fool.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
Awe nicest thing you've ever said :love

Maybe Honky totally just ditches the "lady" part of ladyboys?

- Oilers4Life14

The dude claims he just signed up because he got an old cell phone from his daughter. So he's either A) a liar, B) just got out of prison, or C) is in his 70's, which puts him slightly older than iggy and makes him the oldest poster on this site.
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
You know that I was stating this was the start of a trade. Maybe Howard and the 1st for Ebs.
- TokenBlack

Well that makes sense but still no. If Eberle is moved it has to be for top pairing Dman
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
It just sucked all around for Edmonton. I understand why it fetched a 2nd and not a first but put it in contrast to Sekera and Coburn who each fetched a first. Petry is better than both of them IMO.

Just sucks that there was little to no interest in a player that may not even sign with your team. On paper the trade sucks, but it's the best MacT could've got.

Again like I said, MacT did fine as GM. I was just kidding, I know MacT wouldn't trade Draisaitl for a second. I'm not that stupid guys.

- Oilers4Life14


Petry is better than Sekera and Coburn? LOL Coburn also has another year of term on his deal and wasn't a rental.
QuickBBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.20.2015

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
Ok Bud. Whatever you say. I was drowning in ass when I was 16. Got married when I was 22 and barely had any since tho
- HonkyTonkMan



Face down in hairy man ass!!!
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
I was thinking that, but I think that's a little bit of an overpayment. For Detroit. We'd have to add a C+/B- prospect to even that out. Maybe Moroz or Khaira?
- Oilers4Life14

I don't really know. Maybe Howard, Smith, 1st for Eberle, Marincin, Musil?
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:15 PM ET
Exactly. You have to be able to take a joke and be prepared to be roasted to exist here. I mean, hell. JB takes almost as much abuse as a Thai ladyboi's butthole does from Jero and he doesn't let it get to him.
- TokenBlack


Greatest.

Analogy.

Ever.
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
Well that makes sense but still no. If Eberle is moved it has to be for top pairing Dman
- OilerFan16

As much as I'd love it. I don't see one being available that Ebs could snag. It'd have to be a 2-3 D-man and a big package surrounding both.
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:17 PM ET
Petry is better than Sekera and Coburn? LOL Coburn also has another year of term on his deal and wasn't a rental.
- Dangles13

Petry is NOT better than Sekera. All three fall into a crappy 2-highquality 3 dman category imo.
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:19 PM ET
You know that I was stating this was the start of a trade. Maybe Howard and the 1st for Ebs.
- TokenBlack


That is a terrible deal. The market for goalies is not in your favour, there are too many available and if your team is moving one it is likely because they need to and GMs will take advantage of that.
StoopLemur
Edmonton Oilers
Location: FunkyTown
Joined: 10.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
It's only disrespect if you take it as such.

While this is very much an open forum, you're stepping into one with an existing and tightly knit group. Let's make an example of this in real life for sake of clearing up the situation:

You're at a bar and there's this group of guys at a table who are always loud and rambunctious and you can't help but overhear them. They're often there when you are so as a result, you begin to pick up on the gist of their conversations. Over time, you begin to mull over the idea of joining them in their antics as you seem to see some similarities and common interests. Then comes the day you decide to join up. You head over to the table and overhear them mocking one of the others in the group. For reasons I'm not at liberty to comment on, you chime in defense of the guy without realizing he's one of the members that doesn't often show up. Suddenly, you've drawn the ire of the most boisterous group members for the sake of defending one of those who isn't really part of the group.

Do you see the picture I'm painting? When the first thing you try to do when you willingly join an existing group of people is attempt to change them, you're not likely to get very far with them. In fact, you could say that stepping in like that was a disrespect to them and, as such, they have a negative opinion of you- regardless of your good intentions. Even though I disagree with what they do, this is the internet; there are few ways to force people to change when you don't even know the person.

- MaximumBone


This overall is a great way of explaining this place, nice work but instead of a bar, I would have used a mental hospital. Also, you disagree with what happens here...That makes me sad, I though we all loved each other for the most part. Especially Token,
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
Well that makes sense but still no. If Eberle is moved it has to be for top pairing Dman
- OilerFan16



Pete Harrold is available by the way.
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
I don't really know. Maybe Howard, Smith, 1st for Eberle, Marincin, Musil?
- TokenBlack


I haven't seen enough of Smith to exactly make that call. But I quickly glanced at his stats and they're far better than Marincin's. Also has been in the league longer.

I'd probably take that.
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
The dude claims he just signed up because he got an old cell phone from his daughter. So he's either A) a liar, B) just got out of prison, or C) is in his 70's, which puts him slightly older than iggy and makes him the oldest poster on this site.
- leonkennedy

I'm 57. My daughter is 25. Maybe I am the oldest one here, lol
Dangles13
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MB
Joined: 02.08.2011

Jun 20 @ 6:20 PM ET
Petry is NOT better than Sekera. All three fall into a crappy 2-highquality 3 dman category imo.
- TokenBlack


Sometimes I remember that JB is a kid with terrible opinions.
OilerFan16
Edmonton Oilers
Location: SK
Joined: 07.15.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:21 PM ET
As much as I'd love it. I don't see one being available that Ebs could snag. It'd have to be a 2-3 D-man and a big package surrounding both.
- TokenBlack

You are likely right. I personally would be pissed if we traded Ebs in a deal that was centered around a goalie.
QuickBBC
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.20.2015

Jun 20 @ 6:21 PM ET
I'm 57. My daughter is 25. Maybe I am the oldest one here, lol
- HonkyTonkMan



NOT TOO OLD TO TOSS MAN SALAD!!!!
Shaggy420
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.16.2015

Jun 20 @ 6:21 PM ET


I PLAY BASS!

- TokenBlack

OK. ... I'm so back on the token band wagon....
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:21 PM ET
That is a terrible deal. The market for goalies is not in your favour, there are too many available and if your team is moving one it is likely because they need to and GMs will take advantage of that.
- Dangles13

I'm throwing out ideas, buddy. Give me credit for trying to help out Honky by talking about hockey.
StoopLemur
Edmonton Oilers
Location: FunkyTown
Joined: 10.31.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:22 PM ET
I'm throwing out ideas, buddy. Give me credit for trying to help out Honky by talking about hockey.
- TokenBlack


Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

Jun 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
I'm 57. My daughter is 25. Maybe I am the oldest one here, lol
- HonkyTonkMan


Hily poop, how do you even know how to use the interent?
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:24 PM ET
You are likely right. I personally would be pissed if we traded Ebs in a deal that was centered around a goalie.
- OilerFan16

If we lose Ebs, we can't lose Yak, and vice versa. I don't want to lose either. A top two d-man, of which we REALLY need that number one spot covered, is going to impossible this off season unless we go after Phanoof. And no thanks. Thats not worth Eberle.

What we might need to do is get by with a top 4 that consists of 2-3 dman types for a while while Nurse and or Klef get groomed.
TokenBlack
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I think Chet Manley is the worst poster on this site. - James Tannecdotes, CO
Joined: 11.29.2014

Jun 20 @ 6:25 PM ET

- StoopLemur

I am black.
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