jmatchett383
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I would love to have Domi.. - znagle
I can't wait until somebody breaks that mother (frank)er's jaw with his little poop-eating grin. |
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nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 01.31.2012
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I can't wait until somebody breaks that mother (frank)er's jaw with his little poop-eating grin. - jmatchett383
I have really been enjoying your anger lately.
F Sutter |
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stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA Joined: 01.13.2015
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Arizona is now in my top-10 hated teams since the have both Ulfie and Domi's kids. - jmatchett383
Winnipeg should flip Lemieux there to complete the axis of evil offspring |
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I agree with both but as these depth guys get picked off by contenders what's a GM to do? He is totally handcuffed... no assets... no cap space.
All while believing this team still needs some "pieces" - stowerkraut
The reason we have no assets is because of deals like this - "depth deals" involving pending UFAs. We might need pieces, but we have nothing to trade really.
The deals for Doug Murray and Marcel Goc along with others have taken some amount of toll. People love Bergenheim. His cost was essentially the same as Goc's was. |
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Eskimo-Pens-Fan
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rankin Inlet , NT Joined: 01.14.2015
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hope they dont get Lupul! they already have Beau :BandAid" Bennett!
get someone tougher and cheaper! and nothing from TML! they Suck!!!! |
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stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA Joined: 01.13.2015
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The reason we have no assets is because of deals like this - "depth deals" involving pending UFAs. We might need pieces, but we have nothing to trade really.
The deals for Doug Murray and Marcel Goc along with others have taken some amount of toll. People love Bergenheim. His cost was essentially the same as Goc's was. - Oneonta Penguin
So let me ask are you, are you ok with this team as is? No more moves?
That's why I feel PM's future rides on this game. How many times can they let a Niskanen, Orpik, PM, Erhoff walk with out re-tooling (not rebuilding). It's roster roll over. Especially when guys like Petry and freaking Sekera are going to return 1st round picks and A+ prospects. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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I'm still interested in why he's considered "soft." - jmatchett383
he's not soft at all. injury prone yes, but not soft by a long shot |
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rkrichter2
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 02.26.2007
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nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 01.31.2012
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Tootoo and Jagr, and call it a day.
WWJJD
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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So let me ask are you, are you ok with this team as is? No more moves?
That's why I feel PM's future rides on this game. How many times can they let a Niskanen, Orpik, PM, Erhoff walk with out re-tooling (not rebuilding). It's roster roll over. Especially when guys like Petry and freaking Sekera are going to return 1st round picks and A+ prospects. - stowerkraut
No one is offering 1st rounders and a top prospect for a likely rental dman. They are getting late 1st rounders and maybe a decent prospect at most. And that is probably in cases where the team believes they have a good chance to resign the player.
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canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Calgary Joined: 05.13.2010
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he's not soft at all. injury prone yes, but not soft by a long shot - clark_griswold
Yea I agree, I like his style of play but the injury problems are enough for me to not want us to trade for him. It's a shame too because i think he could be a horse in the playoffs with skilled linemates.
Also P.Kane's season might have ended last night so the Hawks will be looking for a wing to help soften the blow. He might be their target. |
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So let me ask are you, are you ok with this team as is? No more moves?
That's why I feel PM's future rides on this game. How many times can they let a Niskanen, Orpik, PM, Erhoff walk with out re-tooling (not rebuilding). It's roster roll over. Especially when guys like Petry and freaking Sekera are going to return 1st round picks and A+ prospects. - stowerkraut
No, this team is still flawed. That said, I recognize we have little to trade in the lines of picks (we only have a second this year in the top four rounds), prospects (we need to keep Kapanen, Jarry, Sundquist, Pouliot and Harrington IMO) and no one wants our mess (Sutter and Scuderi to a certain extent because he has played alot better this year). I don't want to see assets for the 2016 draft traded at this time.
Petry isn't worth a first and A+ prospects. He is a third round type of acquisition. Someone is going to overpay for Sekera, who isn't worth that either.
I don't like the acquisition of rentals for good assets. I don't mind a deal that involves a good young player with term at a good cap hit. I don't like trading away good assets for someone with a terrible cap hit for the next seven years that would put us in bigger cap trouble than we are (Jordan Staal).
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znagle
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: OH Joined: 10.02.2014
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Yea I agree, I like his style of play but the injury problems are enough for me to not want us to trade for him. It's a shame too because i think he could be a horse in the playoffs with skilled linemates.
Also P.Kane's season might have ended last night so the Hawks will be looking for a wing to help soften the blow. He might be their target. - canadianpenfan
There is no way they can fit his 5 million.. especially because he is signed for 3 more years |
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jerseyleaf
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Brick, NJ Joined: 06.07.2010
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While he is Mr. Glass, the leadership Lupul brings is unquestionable, as well as his work ethic. |
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stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA Joined: 01.13.2015
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No one is offering 1st rounders and a top prospect for a likely rental dman. They are getting late 1st rounders and maybe a decent prospect at most. And that is probably in cases where the team believes they have a good chance to resign the player. - jfkst1
I would've gladly taken that for Niskanen last year.
I know it's hindsight but they don't get any further in the playoff's last year without him. And the same may go for PM this year. |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Wow totally made my day man, also I finally pulled the trigger and put in an application to be a blogger, who knows if they will even look at it; I said I would write for any team. Should be interesting. - nbartley9
Nice! I hope you get your spot as a writer. Some teams are in need on this board. I hope you get the Jets or the Blues. Hard to find articles for them. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Yea I agree, I like his style of play but the injury problems are enough for me to not want us to trade for him. It's a shame too because i think he could be a horse in the playoffs with skilled linemates.
Also P.Kane's season might have ended last night so the Hawks will be looking for a wing to help soften the blow. He might be their target. - canadianpenfan
I think for that the leafs would have to eat salary for the remainder of the contract. If i'm any team and the leafs would eat 50%, lupul is a great piece.
I still think he'd look great in Colorado, they aren't a 'win now' team but have a great core and could use help on the wings. I think lupul has 3 / 4 years left???
he'd light it up along with sid or geno, just ask nonis to eat salary...he loves throwing away cash |
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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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There is no way they can fit his 5 million.. especially because he is signed for 3 more years - znagle
They're getting Jagr. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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I would've gladly taken that for Niskanen last year.
I know it's hindsight but they don't get any further in the playoff's last year without him. And the same may go for PM this year. - stowerkraut
So at what point do you go all-in to win? Look at the 08/09 team. You lost some players the next year (Scuderi, Satan, Sykora) that you could have traded for future assets. But you didn't, because you went all-in to try to win the Cup. You need to strike while the iron is hot. If you keep being afraid of losing players for nothing you will never give yourself the best chance to win. |
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rival22
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Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY Joined: 02.27.2007
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I would've gladly taken that for Niskanen last year.
I know it's hindsight but they don't get any further in the playoff's last year without him. And the same may go for PM this year. - stowerkraut
There you go.. if basically winning Stanley Cups is your threshold, then keeping just about every pending UFA ever was probably a mistake.
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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I would've gladly taken that for Niskanen last year.
I know it's hindsight but they don't get any further in the playoff's last year without him. And the same may go for PM this year. - stowerkraut
You could say that every year. That's what happens when a team is a "buyer" every deadline. They run out of tradable assets. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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There you go.. if basically winning Stanley Cups is your threshold, then keeping just about every pending UFA ever was probably a mistake. - rival22
Colorado should have traded Ray Bouque in 2000-2001. Can't believe they lost him for nothing the next year.
And really, the Penguins should have traded Mario Lemieux back in 2006, they were total sellers that year. |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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No on Lupul, No on Winnick. |
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stowerkraut
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: He fit in the lineup like Edgar Winter in the Wu-Tang Clan, PA Joined: 01.13.2015
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No, this team is still flawed. That said, I recognize we have little to trade in the lines of picks (we only have a second this year in the top four rounds), prospects (we need to keep Kapanen, Jarry, Sundquist, Pouliot and Harrington IMO) and no one wants our mess (Sutter and Scuderi to a certain extent because he has played alot better this year). I don't want to see assets for the 2016 draft traded at this time.
Petry isn't worth a first and A+ prospects. He is a third round type of acquisition. Someone is going to overpay for Sekera, who isn't worth that either.
I don't like the acquisition of rentals for good assets. I don't mind a deal that involves a good young player with term at a good cap hit. I don't like trading away good assets for someone with a terrible cap hit for the next seven years that would put us in bigger cap trouble than we are (Jordan Staal). - Oneonta Penguin
I agree with most of this which is why I think trading PM or Hoff is a good move. If contenders will over pay for Sekera I'd imagine they'd the same if not more for PM. Trading Nisky last year to CHI for a decent prospect and late 1st could've returned Teravienen and Hartman (their 30th pick). That's how you fix depth IMO. |
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jfkst1
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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I think for that the leafs would have to eat salary for the remainder of the contract. If i'm any team and the leafs would eat 50%, lupul is a great piece.
I still think he'd look great in Colorado, they aren't a 'win now' team but have a great core and could use help on the wings. I think lupul has 3 / 4 years left???
he'd light it up along with sid or geno, just ask nonis to eat salary...he loves throwing away cash - clark_griswold
Sure, you eat 50% of Lupul's salary and we'll send you Sutter. How's that sound?
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