Ryan Wilson: Marc-Andre Fleury Needs To Play Less + Thoughts On Mark Arcobello Marc-Andre Fleury Needs To Play Less + Thoughts On Mark Arcobello

Posted on the previous thread, someone mentioned we only have two back to back days off in March. I'm sure he'll get some rest then.

Maybe, just maybe, Arcobello will replace Craig Adams on the Pen's roster, and finally rid you of your most beloved skater!

As mentioned in the last thread, IF MAF is not our starter in the playoffs we are F'ed anyways. Trade Greiss for cap space, trade for Jagr, and F Sutter.



WWJJD

Watching the Caps-Flyers game last night they had said Holtby was playing in his 20th straight game and I was wondering what the hell the Caps were thinking, he is going to get burned out. But that got me wondering where Fleury was in comparison with other starters and so I was looking at that this morning. And he is tied for 9th most games played, so not too bad, but I agree we should probably give him a few more nights off down the stretch. I like Greiss and think he is more than capable of handling a bigger role for a while. Most of the guys playing those heavy workloads don't have solid backups behind them like Fleury does, so there just isn't any reason to overwork him. Although he should be in there for every game they wear the 3rd jerseys with his yellow pads, because that is awesome.

As mentioned in the last thread, IF MAF is not our starter in the playoffs we are F'ed anyways. Trade Greiss for cap space, sign Jagr, and F Sutter.



WWJJD
- nbartley9

Thank god you're not a GM

Perron-Crosby-Hornqvist
Kunitz-Malkin-Bennett
Comeau-Sutter-Downie
Spaling-Goc-Arcobello

Thank god you're not a GM
- gdsmack267

Hey my pre-free agent roster isn't too far off what we have right now, I was the ONLY one that wanted Downie before we got him.

Defend your comment, what is it you hate so badly?

Ooooo... Ryan with the real facts putting some ice water on our expectations... Oh well, I still say he is gonna become another Tyler Kennedy for us.

I like stories about likable underdog hockey players.

I like stories that are well written.

I like stories where I learn something.

This piece on Bobby Farnham is all three:
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2...tsburgh-penguins-longform

I thought it was a really good read.

As mentioned in the last thread, IF MAF is not our starter in the playoffs we are F'ed anyways. Trade Greiss for cap space, trade for Jagr, and F Sutter.



WWJJD
- nbartley9

I don't have an issue with trading Greiss... I think Zatkoff is just as capable, but Greiss would merit a bit more of a return.

But, I do not get the obsession with Jagr... no matter how much of an inhuman beast he seems, that is just too damn risky for a playoff run.

WWJJD now stands for Jussi Jokinen :D

Hey my pre-free agent roster isn't too far off what we have right now, I was the ONLY one that wanted Downie before we got him.

Defend your comment, what is it you hate so badly?
- nbartley9

Trading Greiss! Low cost, better than average numbers. That and the whole Jagr thing, we're a fast team. No need for a guy that is slowing down taking PP time and a top six role from any of the guys currently on the team.

I don't have an issue with trading Greiss... I think Zatkoff is just as capable, but Greiss would merit a bit more of a return.

But, I do not get the obsession with Jagr... no matter how much of an inhuman beast he seems, that is just too damn risky for a playoff run.

WWJJD now stands for Jussi Jokinen :D
- Guile

Haha, Jags isn't risky at all if used properly, he could provide exactly what we need, incredible hands and a undisputable scoring touch.

Trading Greiss! Low cost, better than average numbers. That and the whole Jagr thing, we're a fast team. No need for a guy that is slowing down taking PP time and a top six role from any of the guys currently on the team.
- Topshelf Mountain

We were a fast team in 09' as well and Billy G certainly wasn't that but he was a match made in heaven.

Haha, Jags isn't risky at all if used properly, he could provide exactly what we need, incredible hands and a undisputable scoring touch.
- nbartley9

And if his age finally becomes a reality, and hes looking as slow as Hal Gill in the 3rd period for us? Can we tar and feather ya?

We were a fast team in 09' as well and Billy G certainly wasn't that but he was a match made in heaven.
- nbartley9

He was also younger with a completely different game.

He was also younger with a completely different game.
- Topshelf Mountain

All we need is someone to shoot the puck effectively, and he can still do that for sure.

WWJJD

And if his age finally becomes a reality, and hes looking as slow as Hal Gill in the 3rd period for us? Can we tar and feather ya?
- Guile

Absolutely, I will provide the tar.

All we need is someone to shoot the puck effectively, and he can still do that for sure.

WWJJD
- nbartley9

Ok... to counter that point... don't you think there are cheaper and less risky options than Jagr for that? You aren't crazy, I think

I think the Pens tried to recreate the Guerin formula when they went and got Brendan Morrow.

Ok... to counter that point... don't you think there are cheaper and less risky options than Jagr for that? You aren't crazy, I think
- Guile

With the skill Jagr still has, I honestly don't think so.

My second choice is Glenncross

With the skill Jagr still has, I honestly don't think so.

My second choice is Glenncross
- nbartley9

Well, its just a difference of opinion in this regard. I think there are a number of players who would score as well as Jagr, without the risk of braking a hip.

With the skill Jagr still has, I honestly don't think so.

My second choice is Glenncross
- nbartley9

Once healthy, we don't need anyone.

All we need is someone to shoot the puck effectively, and he can still do that for sure.

WWJJD
- nbartley9

No doubt on that. I'm worried he wouldn't get there in time 5 v 5, and if he did push his pace there's always his groin which has sidelined him quite a bit.

Then there's his salary

He was also younger with a completely different game.
- Topshelf Mountain

I also think the key difference too was that Guerin had the experience of being traded lots of times and going to different rooms. His personality certainly helped, but he knew how to jump into a new atmosphere.

Both Morrow and Iginla were traded for the first time after spending their whole adult lives in one organization. It was too much of not stepping on anyone's toes and just trying to fit in.