Which Earls?
- Grumpy13

The one by the Scotiabank movie theater in downtown. I heard it from several of the waitresses.

Andrew Shaw
Ondrej Palat
Matthew Nieto
Tomas Jurco
J.T. Miller
Sven Baertschi
Ryan Murphy
Adam Larsson

All I'm saying is the guy was a first round pick and may not have deserved to be. He's got a great shot but his highest goal total was 29 goals and that was in juniors.

Hell, even Sestito scored 42 goals once in juniors.

Edit: guys a bust. Cut the (frank)er loose.
- bloatedmosquito

You can't include Matt Nieto, JT Miller and Baertschi as being impact players... Come on... You are pushing it now

Had a couple GF's who played that game at a different level.... you were a piece of poop no matter what your answer was.

- boonerbuck

Crazy thing about this situation is that, if a woman sees a hot guy with a girl by his side, she'll eye the girl up and down more than the guy to gauge her competition.

Andrew Shaw
Ondrej Palat
Matthew Nieto
Tomas Jurco
J.T. Miller
Sven Baertschi
Ryan Murphy
Adam Larsson

All I'm saying is the guy was a first round pick and may not have deserved to be. He's got a great shot but his highest goal total was 29 goals and that was in juniors.

Hell, even Sestito scored 42 goals once in juniors.

Edit: guys a bust. Cut the (frank)er loose.
- bloatedmosquito

Overage junior players of Sestito's size always have inflated stats, I believe Sestito played on a stacked junior team as well. Jensen's team was not a top tier junior team. He also didn't play his last 2 seasons in the OHL(so the year before overage, like Horvat right now).

Crazy thing about this situation is that, if a woman sees a hot guy with a girl by his side, she'll eye the girl up and down more than the guy to gauge her competition.
- AlexF

So true.

Crazy thing about this situation is that, if a woman sees a hot guy with a girl by his side, she'll eye the girl up and down more than the guy to gauge her competition.
- AlexF

I wouldn't inlclude Larssson, Murphy or Jurco in that list either yet. I did miss Shaw and Palat though.

Overage junior players of Sestito's size always have inflated stats, I believe Sestito played on a stacked junior team as well. Jensen's team was not a top tier junior team. He also didn't play his last 2 seasons in the OHL(so the year before overage, like Horvat right now).
- Nucker101

I agree with Bloated to a certain extent: although I wouldn't label Jensen a bust just yet my expectations have certainly become more modest for his future impact on this team, and that's if he develops properly.

Maybe, if the game they're playing is cribbage
- bloatedmosquito

That's barely over the skunk line.

So what you're saying is that you've got enough to eat at home?
- CubanBuffet

Who eats in the pool?

Andrew Shaw
Ondrej Palat
Matthew Nieto
Tomas Jurco
J.T. Miller
Sven Baertschi
Ryan Murphy
Adam Larsson

All I'm saying is the guy was a first round pick and may not have deserved to be. He's got a great shot but his highest goal total was 29 goals and that was in juniors.

Hell, even Sestito scored 42 goals once in juniors.

Edit: guys a bust. Cut the (frank)er loose.
- bloatedmosquito

You're a day early.

I agree with Bloated to certain extent: although I wouldn't label Jensen a bust just yet my expectations have certainly become more modest for his future impact on this team, and that's if he develops properly.
- AlexF

He is who we thought he was(Dennis Green angry voice).


A boom or bust type, either he'll be a top 6 offensive forward or he won't make it since most coaches prefer a better all-around player in the bottom 6. I haven't really changed my opinion of him, that upside(and downside) both still exist.

You're a day early.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Seriously. I'm ready to slit my wrists with the level of excitement around here.

Andrew Shaw
Ondrej Palat
Matthew Nieto
Tomas Jurco
J.T. Miller
Sven Baertschi
Ryan Murphy
Adam Larsson

All I'm saying is the guy was a first round pick and may not have deserved to be. He's got a great shot but his highest goal total was 29 goals and that was in juniors.

Hell, even Sestito scored 42 goals once in juniors.

Edit: guys a bust. Cut the (frank)er loose.
- bloatedmosquito

Okay I thought you were suggesting he needs to establish himself as a NHLer this year or he is a bust and that the 2011 draft was full of players making a difference for their team..... my mistake I can understand your point about him going closer to 35 than 29th overall.

He is who we thought he was(Dennis Green angry voice).


A boom or bust type, either he'll be a top 6 offensive forward or he won't make it since most coaches prefer a better all-around player in the bottom 6. I haven't really changed my opinion of him, that upside(and downside) both still exist.
- Nucker101

So it doesn't look like any young guys are going to make the team. Maybe Vey. #changeiscomingmyass. I don't think Vantel was being negative he was being realistic. Yes it is a bit early to speculate but I don't see that much change other than coaching and management. Benning can't make moves because of all the NTC's. If certain players have good years we could do alright maybe squeaking into a playoff spot and FA would have some extra bank. I am a positive person and want to see them compete but the in my mind the tough decisions haven't been made yet. Way too many questions for me. I`m not being negative just voicing what I see. I really though Shinkaruk was good enough to make the roster and created more offensive chances than anyone other than the Sedins.(I was actually a little pi$$ed a WD for his comments about sending him down) Jensen looked solid as well but not electrifying. Horavt was a king in faceoff circle, his play in the corners as well as defensive transition were good enough to make the line up. Corrado was best out of all our 6 and 7 defensive prospects as well as a 2.5 mil 6<7 (wtf). Fox can play big when put with high caliber players with his nose for the net. I could keep going on why at least 2 of these guys deserved it more than some vets but at the end of the day if JB is a seller the vets have to play not the kids. While hopeful I am not going to be to quick to jump on the Linden Benning Desjardin wagon just yet.
- thundachunk

I think the team made the right moves. Shink is playing for the first time after taking almost a whole season for surgery and recovery. HE is not in season long game shape. Ask anybody that watched more then 2 preseason games. He was slowing down and not skating as well. He needs a atleast few months in Utica to get his strength up and get his confidence up.
Jensen is not a bottom 6 guy and keeping him up would mean plying 5-8 mins or press box. Nothing to be gained development wise. See what Detroit does with their kids. Fox is going to be a great ahler. To make the transition he needs to reinvet his game to more bruising or become the sniper. He does not have the skills set to be depth player.
Horvat will get his 10 games to audition. There is nothing to be gained by sending him to London. It it was Utica then it would make sense.
I have a feeling we will have a rotation LTIR this year. Similar to how Booth, Ballard and Alberts got mysteriously injured and went on LTIR to keep under the cap during MG era.

I agree with Bloated to certain extent: although I wouldn't label Jensen a bust just yet my expectations have certainly become more modest for his future impact on this team, and that's if he develops properly.
- AlexF

I think a lot of canuck fans have become accustomed to mediocrity. That's their benchmark. Why should we expect this franchise to be able to evaluate prospects accurately (we are all aware of the exceptionally poor draft record)? Why should we expect our prospects to have the tools to become impact players? Why should we expect this franchise to develop our prospects properly?

As a fan I want to expect more from my club than just mediocrity. No more excuses.

Seriously. I'm ready to slit my wrists with the level of excitement around here.
- bezz44

Can the Canucks put Aquilini on waivers? I'm not going to another live game until this team is in the hands of a real owner.

Yeah, redheads are a special breed. Have you ever seen the hot crazy matrix on YouTube? It's pure gold!
- PetrolSexual

to follow up on my previous post:

You can't include Matt Nieto, JT Miller and Baertschi as being impact players... Come on... You are pushing it now
- bezz44

I'm not saying they are team leaders but look at games played. They all have over 50 games played. Jensen's got 19.

And don't give me poop about skill level of main roster. NYR and SJ have been just as competitive as the canucks over the last few years.

That's barely over the skunk line.
- 1970vintage

And that's a great comparison to the canucks.

Who eats in the pool?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Vantel.

Players drafted in 2011 that are making a difference:
RNH (1st overall)
Lanseskog (2nd overall)
Couturier ( 8th overall)
Brodin (10th overall)
Zibanajad (6th overall)
Scheifele (7th overall)
Hamalton ( 9th overall)

notice any similarities? Jensen was picked 29th and you expect him to be ready like these guys?

Maybe you were referencing players like Jenner (37) or Saad (43) who were taken after him. I count 9 players out of 211 taken in that draft that are making a difference on their team. 9 players...... trust me Jensen is developing at a rate comparable to the players he was drafted at or who have played the same amount of pro games.

Edit missed Huberdeau, so 10 players
- belcherbd

Exactly. Sort of the opposite, but same strained argument as the guy that said that Sbisa is awesome because he was a first rounder. This says that Jensen should be awesome right now because he is a first rounder and some other first rounders are already awesome. Jensen, therefore, has failed.

I wouldn't inlclude Larssson, Murphy or Jurco in that list either yet. I did miss Shaw and Palat though.
- belcherbd

Larsson's played 128 games and is a career -4. That's a lot of minutes eaten up and not being a liability as a rookie defenceman. Murphy's got over 50 games as a rookie defenceman. Jurco 36 games.

Vantel.
- Marwood

Where have you been? On the road to slap a female dog?

I'm not saying they are team leaders but look at games played. They all have over 50 games played. Jensen's got 19.

And don't give me poop about skill level of main roster. NYR and SJ have been just as competitive as the canucks over the last few years.
- bloatedmosquito

If you are using games played as your benchmark then I don't even know what to say... That's a managerial and coaching decision. Zack Kassian has over 150 NHL games under his belt, and we are still waiting for him to make his mark on this team. Management here has made some very poor calls in the past but it is unbelievably unfair to write him off after his first pro year.
Edit: he was picked for his potential as a top 6 sniper, let's wait and see if he gets there before we string him up