In direct contrast to last year's ex-coach who shall not be named,


Thanks Carol, I appreciate your sensitivity on this subject!
- Marwood

As soon as I read that, I knew she was catering to you...you have influence, use it wisely.

Kick them out of the game for a staged fight, it will end immediately.
- A_SteamingLombardi

If a each team has to resort to fighting and they want to get it out of the game it should be a mandatory game misconduct and a offence that carries with it a one game bench penalty. If a player know s he is gonna miss the rest of the game he is in and the next game players will be more reluctant to drop them. They are already fringe players you want as much ice time as you can get. Losing one game for them hurts the wallet bad and if a star player fights it might not hit the wallet that bad but it will hurt the team in wins and losses.

All I can say is get rid the instigator penalty. Also, add a 10 minute misconduct penalty for staged fights. Those right there could sort a lot of the BS we see in today's game.
- PetrolSexual

I would also look at something like if a guy has 200+ penalty minutes and less than 15 points, the team gets fined $250,000 or something. That would get pure goons like Mcgratten and Scott out of the game, or at least make them try to play hockey.

Don't bother
- A_SteamingLombardi

Just wanted to let you know that the posters name "BAKWAS" is an Urdu/hindi word and literal translation is garbage, of no value, untrue,

And I think based on his post his handle name is quite fitting.

My apologies Kaptaan if I offended any of your racism policies.

I would also look at something like if a guy has 200+ penalty minutes and less than 15 points, the team gets fined $250,000 or something. That would get pure goons like Mcgratten and Scott out of the game, or at least make them try to play hockey.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Or King goon Sestito. I sure hope he doesn't even make the team this year, and gets sent down.

Rock 101 has announced that Canucks are "all in" on Evander Kane. Apparently the offer is: Burrows, Markstrom, Shinkaruk, and a 1st

I will try and find the link.
- Bakwas

hockeyyinsiderr... The guy has a worse track record than Ek.

If a each team has to resort to fighting and they want to get it out of the game it should be a mandatory game misconduct and a offence that carries with it a one game bench penalty. If a player know s he is gonna miss the rest of the game he is in and the next game players will be more reluctant to drop them. They are already fringe players you want as much ice time as you can get. Losing one game for them hurts the wallet bad and if a star player fights it might not hit the wallet that bad but it will hurt the team in wins and losses.
- thundachunk

Exactly
fight in Baseball tossed
fight in Football tossed
fight in Basketball tossed
fight in Hockey get 5 mins.

Just wanted to let you know that the posters name "BAKWAS" is an Urdu/hindi word and literal translation is garbage, of no value, untrue,

And I think based on his post his handle name is quite fitting.

My apologies Kaptaan if I offended any of your racism policies.
- Linden_4_Capt

What's for lunch?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Asian style marinated pork sandwich with a sweet& spicy coleslaw of carrot, cucumber, diakon & bell pepper on a fresh baked roll. Wash it down with an ice-cold Stiegl!!!

Asian style marinated pork sandwich with a sweet& spicy coleslaw of carrot, cucumber, diakon & bell pepper on a fresh baked roll. Wash it down with an ice-cold Stiegl!!!
- Marwood

banh mi HMMMMMMM

Asian style marinated pork sandwich with a sweet& spicy coleslaw of carrot, cucumber, diakon & bell pepper on a fresh baked roll. Wash it down with an ice-cold Stiegl!!!
- Marwood

Sounds fantastic!

Just become a fan of Trevin Linden. But for fighting to get out of the game, which it absolutely should, the league has to get serious about discipline. 10-15-20+ game suspensions for dirty play. fighting should come with an automatic 1 game suspension for the 1st, 2 for the second, etc. players would really really have to be pissed to do it then.

hockeyyinsiderr... The guy has a worse track record than Ek.
- hankthetank

So his track record is solid then?

The problem is the ref's are part of the game and many times over we have seen them take games into their own hand. There is not enough accountability and imo replay/play review would bring that. Many Refs are highly respected and many are not. I could name off many incidents where the refs had it out for a certain team or players. At times it becomes very bush league because the refs lost control of the game because they made a call that wasn't necessary didn't make a call and put a stop to the impending A$$jackery. I would like to compare the officials in the NHL to other leagues but I feel that hockey refs have a more intimate relationship with players and the game. I wouldn't be opposed to end fighting but I don't think it is possible due to the intimate culture of the game.
- thundachunk

I agree with you, there is no real accountability for refs and that is something that needs to be remedied if they want to make the game safer via external policing

Just wanted to let you know that the posters name "BAKWAS" is an Urdu/hindi word and literal translation is garbage, of no value, untrue,

And I think based on his post his handle name is quite fitting.

My apologies Kaptaan if I offended any of your racism policies.
- Linden_4_Capt

BOOM. KNOWLEDGED.

All I can say is get rid the instigator penalty. Also, add a 10 minute misconduct penalty for staged fights. Those right there could sort a lot of the BS we see in today's game.
- PetrolSexual

Fully agree.

I @#$@#$ hate that penalty. That, folks, is the reason that twat-bags (wait, can I say twat-bag?) like Marchand feel like they can get away with their big-tough-guy bullsh*t. If there was no instigator rule I can guarantee that fighting would actually go DOWN. Does anyone not see the forest for the trees here?

Also, shouldn't the coaches be blamed for the staged fight? it's not like they can't control their players (i.e a guy gets into a staged fight, then sit him in the press box for a few games). Players would learn VERY quickly not to indulge in such practices. Coaches could also be fined accordingly.

I have to say I'm a little disappointed at Linden for his comments. I can see his point of view but I also see that it's a flawed perspective. For anyone that's actually played the game (even at lower beer league levels) you know that players have to police themselves. And 95% of the time it works very well and keeps the cheap shots at a minimum, thereby eliminating serious injuries.

And frankly, I don't care if all the other sports don't have fighting. Fighting is an inherent part of hockey is/was and will continue to be a violent game, it is ingrained in both history and our culture. All you have to do is see how much fans love a good brawl, they are out of their seats more so than if a goal would have been scored. We see this at every game in every city. Yet, non-fighting proponents always seem to have the loudest voice. I guess that's typical of any issue unfortunately, the vocal minority always seems to get the most attention.

Asian style marinated pork sandwich with a sweet& spicy coleslaw of carrot, cucumber, diakon & bell pepper on a fresh baked roll. Wash it down with an ice-cold Stiegl!!!
- Marwood

Good grief, quite the nice lunch (lunch?) lol

My lunch today consists of one turnip (stale), served on a bed of refried chicken feet, sprinkled with several crushed up bullion cubes (imitation brand of course - please note the cubes MUST be fresh to create a wonderful synergy of scrumptiousness) and a pinch of medicine ball shavings.

All served up with a fresh mug of beet (imitation) juice garnished with a Chernobyl onion

Fully agree.

I @#$@#$ hate that penalty. That, folks, is the reason that twat-bags (wait, can I say twat-bag?) like Marchand feel like they can get away with their big-tough-guy bullsh*t. If there was no instigator rule I can guarantee that fighting would actually go DOWN. Does anyone not see the forest for the trees here?

Also, shouldn't the coaches be blamed for the staged fight? it's not like they can't control their players (i.e a guy gets into a staged fight, then sit him in the press box for a few games). Players would learn VERY quickly not to indulge in such practices. Coaches could also be fined accordingly.

I have to say I'm a little disappointed at Linden for his comments. I can see his point of view but I also see that it's a flawed perspective. For anyone that's actually played the game (even at lower beer league levels) you know that players have to police themselves. And 95% of the time it works very well and keeps the cheap shots at a minimum, thereby eliminating serious injuries.

And frankly, I don't care if all the other sports don't have fighting. Fighting is an inherent part of hockey is/was and will continue to be a violent game, it is ingrained in both history and our culture. All you have to do is see how much fans love a good brawl, they are out of their seats more so than if a goal would have been scored. We see this at every game in every city. Yet, non-fighting proponents always seem to have the loudest voice. I guess that's typical of any issue unfortunately, the vocal minority always seems to get the most attention.
- Zogg

First off, I commend you on yet another Zoggian novel
Second, people love bloodsport, as evidenced by the gladatorial events of the Romans and every 80's action movie ever made. Where do you draw the line between player safety and entertainment though? I'm pretty impartial either way, enjoy a good fight as much as the next guy but I'm not the one getting my head caved in. The issue of whether or not it is feasible with the current policing system is another matter and one you have pointed out as being flawed (I agree with you here completely)

Good grief, quite the nice lunch (lunch?) lol

My lunch today consists of one turnip (stale), served on a bed of refried chicken feet, sprinkled with several crushed up bullion cubes (imitation brand of course - please note the cubes MUST be fresh to create a wonderful synergy of scrumptiousness) and a pinch of medicine ball shavings.

All served up with a fresh mug of beet (imitation) juice garnished with a Chernobyl onion
- Zogg

How are you smuggling poop in from Chernobyl?? Goddamn commies invading this board

Blue Jays off to a hot start again today

First off, I commend you on yet another Zoggian novel
Second, people love bloodsport, as evidenced by the gladatorial events of the Romans and every 80's action movie ever made. Where do you draw the line between player safety and entertainment though? I'm pretty impartial either way, enjoy a good fight as much as the next guy but I'm not the one getting my head caved in. The issue of whether or not it is feasible with the current policing system is another matter and one you have pointed out as being flawed (I agree with you here completely)
- bezz44

What can I say, I accidentally swallowed War & Peace during my formative years

I agree that there is a fine line between player safety and entertainment. However, I don't necessarily think that they are mutually exclusive. As touched on, I think if the instigator rule was taken out, the amount of fighting would actually decrease (just having that as a psychological element; that is, knowing there are going to be consequences to your actions, should be a deterrent in itself and keep ''tough guys' like Marchand in line)

And just to clarify, like most people on the board, I really dislike the staged aspect. To me THAT is not hockey and you will note has crept into the game slowly but surely since the instigator rule was introduced.

I think we can all agree that this is a controversial topic - there doesn't seem to be that much middle ground (although it seems like you have an open mind as to both sides of the coin

Fully agree.

I @#$@#$ hate that penalty. That, folks, is the reason that twat-bags (wait, can I say twat-bag?) like Marchand feel like they can get away with their big-tough-guy bullsh*t. If there was no instigator rule I can guarantee that fighting would actually go DOWN. Does anyone not see the forest for the trees here?

Also, shouldn't the coaches be blamed for the staged fight? it's not like they can't control their players (i.e a guy gets into a staged fight, then sit him in the press box for a few games). Players would learn VERY quickly not to indulge in such practices. Coaches could also be fined accordingly.

I have to say I'm a little disappointed at Linden for his comments. I can see his point of view but I also see that it's a flawed perspective. For anyone that's actually played the game (even at lower beer league levels) you know that players have to police themselves. And 95% of the time it works very well and keeps the cheap shots at a minimum, thereby eliminating serious injuries.

And frankly, I don't care if all the other sports don't have fighting. Fighting is an inherent part of hockey is/was and will continue to be a violent game, it is ingrained in both history and our culture. All you have to do is see how much fans love a good brawl, they are out of their seats more so than if a goal would have been scored. We see this at every game in every city. Yet, non-fighting proponents always seem to have the loudest voice. I guess that's typical of any issue unfortunately, the vocal minority always seems to get the most attention.
- Zogg

Fully agree. I'm not opposed to the thought of removing fighting from hockey but it is inherent in our game and would be a hard sell to get it removed.

Fully agree. I'm not opposed to the thought of removing fighting from hockey but it is inherent in our game and would be a hard sell to get it removed.
- thundachunk

Most sports or sporting events started from fighting or war. The sports of the modern Olympics are all about war.

How are you smuggling poop in from Chernobyl?? Goddamn commies invading this board
- bezz44

Trust me, you do NOT want to know

Most sports or sporting events started from fighting or war. The sports of the modern Olympics are all about war.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Good point and great example which I think merits further discussion