not a torts fan but that is a weak ass argument bro. Weise sucked.
- anavar

Yup.

I have to agree with most of this.


Gillis' biggest downfalls were:
1) Flip-flopping on how he wanted to build this team
2) Underestimating the value of players he let go and not properly replacing them(Ehrhoff/Torres/Malhotra/Demitra/Samuelsson/Etc)
3) Not quick enough to realize his mistakes on guys like Booth/Ballard and trying to move on(this one is pretty difficult as it can make a GM look bad)
4) Handing out too many NTC's, basically handcuffing him as he publicly stated he would not ask players to waive(who knows if this was BS or not though)
5) The whole goalie fiasco


Since the cup run this team has lost more speed and skill each and every year IMO, due to some of his moves, along with the core ageing. I think Gillis came in and made some great moves as he had no attachment to the team at the time, had an outsider's view/perspective on the team, and a plan to go along with it. The other factor is that Gillis was definitely not a likeable guy, in the media and even behind the scenes apparently as some other GM's didn't like him. Gotta wonder if that made it harder for him to hammer out deals with a certain percentage of the league.


He did improve the drafting, but really the team was so terrible with it before he arrived that he really had no where but to go up. It still needs improvement and I really think the Canucks development system has some issues, whether the head coaches(NHL and AHL) have played into that or not, I'm not really sure.

Hopefully the young players he brought in at least pan out moving forward. Hodsgon-Kassian doesn't look so bad in the long run, although the timing was bad IMO. Book is still out on Kassian's upside, along with the other guys like Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Corrado, Gaunce, Cassels, Hutton, etc. I don't think he was a terrible GM overall like some think he was, but he definitely wasn't great either and seemed to really go off the rails a bit after the SCF. Up until then he was one of the better GM's in the league IMO.


I just hope that the new GM along with Linden bring in the same different perspective that Gillis did when he first arrived and make the moves Gillis would have had a hard time with(asking core players to waive their NTC's, hiring/firing scouts/developmental coaches.
- Nucker101

I can just see it now, Kassian, Lack, Tanev, Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Corrado, Gaunce, Cassels, Hutton, etc. go to the finals in 4 yrs. and the Leafs hire MG as their GM. Leaf fans telling us about how great MG is because he built our team.

Gallagher

Damn near perfect summary! Well done.







I pray to the dark lords of spider monkeys on bad acid, to please fire the f*ck out of Torts.
- Marwood

I'm pretty sure the dark lords of spider monkeys on bad acid have no contoll over Trevor, on the other hand FA is probably their bltch.

I can just see it now, Kassian, Lack, Tanev, Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Corrado, Gaunce, Cassels, Hutton, etc. go to the finals in 4 yrs. and the Leafs hire MG as their GM. Leaf fans telling us about how great MG is because he built our team.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Well they hired our last 3 GM's. Why stop now

I'm pretty sure the dark lords of spider monkeys on bad acid have no contoll over Trevor, on the other hand FA is probably their female dog.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Your properly right. Horrible images flashed through my mind as I thought about it. Sick images.

I'm pretty sure the dark lords of spider monkeys on bad acid have no contoll over Trevor, on the other hand FA is probably their bltch.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Tell me more about this bad acid. Is it bad or is it bad-ass? Spider monkeys usually know their poop.

I can just see it now, Kassian, Lack, Tanev, Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Corrado, Gaunce, Cassels, Hutton, etc. go to the finals in 4 yrs. and the Leafs hire MG as their GM. Leaf fans telling us about how great MG is because he built our team.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Pouliot Sutter Bennett too.

Your properly right. Horrible images flashed through my mind as I thought about it. Sick images.
- Marwood

http://www.youtube.com/wa...feature=player_detailpage

Tell me more about this bad acid. Is it bad or is it bad-ass? Spider monkeys usually know their poop.
- bloatedmosquito

Bad. Old. Like the brown acid. You cry. Crippled with fear. You can't find your penis. That kind of acid.

Tell me more about this bad acid. Is it bad or is it bad-ass? Spider monkeys usually know their poop.
- bloatedmosquito

See youtube link above

Pouliot Sutter Bennett too.
- VANTEL

Is that our edler haul. Because if we deal kesler for that then we might as well have kept Gilles. He was doing a great job of poor asset managment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJV7hr2P5EE&feature=player_detailpage
- A_SteamingLombardi

Thank you so much!!!!!

One of the most twisted "South Park" episodes, ever.

I have to agree with most of this.


Gillis' biggest downfalls were:
1) Flip-flopping on how he wanted to build this team
2) Underestimating the value of players he let go and not properly replacing them(Ehrhoff/Torres/Malhotra/Demitra/Samuelsson/Etc)
3) Not quick enough to realize his mistakes on guys like Booth/Ballard and trying to move on(this one is pretty difficult as it can make a GM look bad)
4) Handing out too many NTC's, basically handcuffing him as he publicly stated he would not ask players to waive(who knows if this was BS or not though)
5) The whole goalie fiasco


Since the cup run this team has lost more speed and skill each and every year IMO, due to some of his moves, along with the core ageing. I think Gillis came in and made some great moves as he had no attachment to the team at the time, had an outsider's view/perspective on the team, and a plan to go along with it. The other factor is that Gillis was definitely not a likeable guy, in the media and even behind the scenes apparently as some other GM's didn't like him. Gotta wonder if that made it harder for him to hammer out deals with a certain percentage of the league.


He did improve the drafting, but really the team was so terrible with it before he arrived that he really had no where but to go up. It still needs improvement and I really think the Canucks development system has some issues, whether the head coaches(NHL and AHL) have played into that or not, I'm not really sure.

Hopefully the young players he brought in at least pan out moving forward. Hodsgon-Kassian doesn't look so bad in the long run, although the timing was bad IMO. Book is still out on Kassian's upside, along with the other guys like Jensen, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Corrado, Gaunce, Cassels, Hutton, etc. I don't think he was a terrible GM overall like some think he was, but he definitely wasn't great either and seemed to really go off the rails a bit after the SCF. Up until then he was one of the better GM's in the league IMO.


I just hope that the new GM along with Linden bring in the same different perspective that Gillis did when he first arrived and make the moves Gillis would have had a hard time with(asking core players to waive their NTC's, hiring/firing scouts/developmental coaches.
- Nucker101

They need to bring in speed and move out the lumber including the twins.

If they had a skilled shoot out specialist they may have been close to the playoffs.this team is stale

I dont think I could watch another season of Tortoisrella.

They need to bring in speed and move out the lumber including the twins.

If they had a skilled shoot out specialist they may have been close to the playoffs.this team is stale
- VANTEL

Beyond the Sedins, who do you think is slow?

Beyond the Sedins, who do you think is slow?
- hillbillydeluxe

I think this has been beaten to death but, what the heck, one more time for sh*ts and giggles . The vast majority on this board have never felt that the Sedins' game has been built around speed . It has been built on phenomenal skill, hockey vision/sense, hard work, and fantastic creativity (factors which negate any possible shortcomings as concerns speed ) Can we finally move on now?

Gallagher
- bloatedmosquito

His skating, agility and speed is ridiculous, not to mention the fact that he would be our toughest guy if he played for the blue and green..

I think this has been beaten to death but, what the heck, one more time for sh*ts and giggles . The vast majority on this board have never felt that the Sedins' game has been built around speed . It has been built on phenomenal skill, hockey vision/sense, hard work, and fantastic creativity (factors which negate any possible shortcomings as concerns speed ) Can we finally move on now?
- Zogg

Yes please!!!

His skating, agility and speed is ridiculous, not to mention the fact that he would be our toughest guy if he played for the blue and green..
- Whiskey-Tango

Gallagher's penalty minute totals, including his Giants days:

2008 - 61
2009 - 111
2010 - 108
2011 - 79
2012-2013 - 94 (split between Hamilton and Montreal)
2013 - 73

Yes please!!!
- LeftCoaster

Hallelujah and praise Jebus! (whether he appears on Tacos or otherwise)

Nice to see Tampa Bay hosed yet again - 2 minutes left in an elimination game and those good ole zebras, well, umm, just bless them good folks, is all I'se sayin

Boy Montreal looks good (or Tampa is really that bad?); funny all the Leaf fans were saying how poopty Ottawa and Montreal are and they both finished ahead of them and one of them is now in the second round.

Last time the Leafs were in the second round was ten years ago

Nice to see Tampa Bay hosed yet again - 2 minutes left in an elimination game and those good ole zebras, well, umm, just bless them good folks, is all I'se sayin
- Zogg

Still can't believe Tampa got swept. Would have been a totally different series had Bishop not got hurt.

Still can't believe Tampa got swept. Would have been a totally different series had Bishop not got hurt.
- Chest Rockwell

Agreed, Lindback was not good.