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willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Dec 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
Other odd thing about this is that Montreal has been sending scouts to follow the NYR and Toronto Maple Leafs but nothing reported to Colorado. You'd think that with so many scouts available at least some would be following the Avs?
msullyhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.02.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:50 PM ET
Don't ask, to will never be told and even then, nothing rumoured ever comes true
- willey101


Fun to speculate over/argue about on the boards . Also can't hold it against him if he labels the rumor with an E5 or E1 (whichever is least likely)
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Dec 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
Not this year though, hes been rock solid as a minute munching shut down Dman. Not focusing too much on offense, he just has been amazing logging tough minutes against other teams top lines and being a thorn in their side
- DDM-Coga


For sure, he's played extremely solid and is a reason why the Avs are where they are. Hard to live up to expectations of your draft position though
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
Other odd thing about this is that Montreal has been sending scouts to follow the NYR and Toronto Maple Leafs but nothing reported to Colorado. You'd think that with so many scouts available at least some would be following the Avs?
- willey101


you guys were heavily scouting us prior to the Game against eachother in Denver, but I havent heard about any scouts from Dater since then
Fols19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.22.2012

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
If there are only two Avs, which of these Hart Trophy winners would command such a return?
- hscesq


Such a return? He said 4 players...he didn't say they were any good.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
My guess for players from avs could be Mcginn, PA, Barrie, Elliot, Wilson, Mitchell, maybe some prospects, I would doubt stastny or RoR would be there though.

If they each would free up another move however that makes it even more confusing.

- Meeqsb


RoR can't be dealt until February because the 1 year rule with signing?
DutchCanSaveUs
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 07.07.2013

Dec 3 @ 3:52 PM ET
WTF.

I sure as hell hope not.. the only guys we want on Montreal we're likely not getting (PK, Price, Gallagher) unless we give up something we don't want to.

Statsny, McGinn and Barrie for PK... mmm do it.

yeah right*
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Dec 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
you guys were heavily scouting us prior to the Game against eachother in Denver, but I havent heard about any scouts from Dater since then
- DDM-Coga


Ya it's all about the Rangers right now.
sEb_666
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Vive le Qc libre!, QC
Joined: 09.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 3:53 PM ET
I know he was a 1st overall pick but by most accounts he has been a humongous disappointment. I mean how many years without being a plus player.

But like I said, I don;t see these teams trading because chemistry is everyhting and right now both teams are rolling and a locker room loss could have a bigger impact.

I do know tha MTL has been high on O'reilly and Talbot for a while....but again

- willey101


O'Reilly might be the target
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
I know he was a 1st overall pick but by most accounts he has been a humongous disappointment. I mean how many years without being a plus player.

But like I said, I don;t see these teams trading because chemistry is everyhting and right now both teams are rolling and a locker room loss could have a bigger impact.

I do know tha MTL has been high on O'reilly and Talbot for a while....but again

- willey101


I'd disagree. He was the only good dman on the Avs ever since we traded for him and +/- is more of a team stat. Also no Dman would have scored under Sacco. He is still only 25 and signed to an awesome contract.

If EJ or RoR's name were to be a part of this deal I would have to imagine PK's name would be involved. Georges is too old, we wouldnt need a center either.
Pacioretty has been in trade rumors as well.

Mcginn would give you guys some size. But I honestly have no idea what the trade would be for.

I would guess it wouldn't involve too many big names but more just some mid level players to help Roy get they make up of the team the way he likes it.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
WTF.

I sure as hell hope not.. the only guys we want on Montreal we're likely not getting (PK, Price, Gallagher) unless we give up something we don't want to.

Statsny, McGinn and Barrie for PK... mmm do it.

yeah right*

- DutchCanSaveUs


Habs don't really need a center right now. We have Plekanec, Eller, Desharnais and then briere, Galchenyuk who should be playing center but are playing wing. So getting a $6 million + Statsny makes absolutely no sense.

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
WTF.

I sure as hell hope not.. the only guys we want on Montreal we're likely not getting (PK, Price, Gallagher) unless we give up something we don't want to.

Statsny, McGinn and Barrie for PK... mmm do it.

yeah right*

- DutchCanSaveUs


maybe dealing Stastny+ for a D-man like Tinordi to stabilize the back end for future years..
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
Such a return? He said 4 players...he didn't say they were any good.
- Fols19

He called it a "A Patrick Roy Statement Trade". I am taking that to mean there would be quality roster players on both sides.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:54 PM ET
O'Reilly might be the target
- sEb_666


He can't be traded until February!
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
O'Reilly might be the target
- sEb_666


If so they would have to wait until Feb due to the offer sheet, and EK said it was earlier than that so I think we can at least rule that out.
jpl0219
St Louis Blues
Location: O Fallon, MO
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:55 PM ET
Unless the Blues don't trust Cole, no way they're in on Del Zotto, more likely Rangers interested in someone and Blues said no to Del Zotto.
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
He called it a "A Patrick Roy Statement Trade". I am taking that to mean there would be quality roster players on both sides.
- hscesq


Maybe but it could also be a trade for players that fit the image that Roy thinks will fit his team as well.
razr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: [quote=hscesq] :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote]:lol: :lol: :lol: -WaterBoy
Joined: 07.20.2009

Dec 3 @ 3:56 PM ET
If so they would have to wait until Feb due to the offer sheet, and EK said it was earlier than that so I think we can at least rule that out.
- Meeqsb


I'm amazed Greg Sherman has the time to post on HB in between the various demands of running the Avalanche.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:57 PM ET
Maybe but it could also be a trade for players that fit the image that Roy thinks will fit his team as well.
- Meeqsb

Habs don't have many of those guys. Gallagher? Prust? Emelin? Don't see those guys going, but one never knows.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm amazed Greg Sherman has the time to post on HB in between the various demands of running the Avalanche.
- razr

Ta yeule calisse.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

Dec 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'd disagree. He was the only good dman on the Avs ever since we traded for him and +/- is more of a team stat. Also no Dman would have scored under Sacco. He is still only 25 and signed to an awesome contract.

If EJ or RoR's name were to be a part of this deal I would have to imagine PK's name would be involved. Georges is too old, we wouldnt need a center either.
Pacioretty has been in trade rumors as well.

Mcginn would give you guys some size. But I honestly have no idea what the trade would be for.

I would guess it wouldn't involve too many big names but more just some mid level players to help Roy get they make up of the team the way he likes it.

- Meeqsb



I think you overevaluate EJ if you think Subban would be he guy coming the other way. You can argue that Subban is he best Dman or at least top 3 in the league right now and he's 24. He produces offensively and also is stellar in his own zone. To trade form someone of that ability would cost players Colorado would not and frankly should not trade.

Pacioretty has been involved in rumours but not because Habs are shopping him but rather teams are calling about him. TSn panel and Management here said it would have to be a ridiculous offer to part with him.

So like I said, put these rumours to rest, they don't make sense. You don;t screw around with chemistry for the sake of a trade and right now both these teams are rolling.

sEb_666
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Vive le Qc libre!, QC
Joined: 09.22.2008

Dec 3 @ 3:58 PM ET
He can't be traded until February!
- JVince11


It's really a calendar year? Not an NHL season?

Thought he could be traded after the first season of his contract, which was last year...
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 3 @ 3:59 PM ET
I think you overevaluate EJ if you think Subban would be he guy coming the other way. You can argue that Subban is he best Dman or at least top 3 in the league right now and he's 24. He produces offensively and also is stellar in his own zone. To trade form someone of that ability would cost players Colorado would not and frankly should not trade.

Pacioretty has been involved in rumours but not because Habs are shopping him but rather teams are calling about him. TSn panel and Management here said it would have to be a ridiculous offer to part with him.

So like I said, put these rumours to rest, they don't make sense. You don;t screw around with chemistry for the sake of a trade and right now both these teams are rolling.

- willey101

Hello understatement.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:00 PM ET
Habs Roomers?!
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Dec 3 @ 4:01 PM ET
I think you overevaluate EJ if you think Subban would be he guy coming the other way. You can argue that Subban is he best Dman or at least top 3 in the league right now and he's 24. He produces offensively and also is stellar in his own zone. To trade form someone of that ability would cost players Colorado would not and frankly should not trade.

Pacioretty has been involved in rumours but not because Habs are shopping him but rather teams are calling about him. TSn panel and Management here said it would have to be a ridiculous offer to part with him.

So like I said, put these rumours to rest, they don't make sense. You don;t screw around with chemistry for the sake of a trade and right now both these teams are rolling.

- willey101


No I agree with all of that, I honestly have no idea what the hell it could be, weird rumor. All I know from avs end is that Sakic has been looking for a Dman and has been shopping Mcginn. A deal could have started from there and grown into what ever this is.
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