Frankly, that would (frank)ing suck.
- Morris

agreed

Nurse at 7 isn't a stretch at all. He's ranked 6th in the ISS final rankings and, although Edmonton has some good defenseman in the works, a lot of their defenseman are offensive defenseman where as Nurse is a bruiser who can play on the first line and put up decent points. Smid is good but he's a stretch as a first liner.
- Bryant44

I wasn't clear, my bad.
I can see how it could be misconstrued with the way I worded it.

I LIKE nurse at 7. good choice yost.

I think Oilers should go with a good 2 way C with Size with their pick

and yes, smid is a huge stretch at top pairing. he flat out isn't.
2nd pairing at best. solid in a lot of ways and I like him for his attitude and that hes a warrior for the oilers. but if I had to say, he's probably somewhere between a true 4 and 5 spot dman

I think Oilers should go with a good 2 way C with Size with their pick
- Meeqsb

monahan'll be considered. there's a few questions surrounding him though.
if by some miracle they had a shot at barkov, they take him for sure. but it aint gonna play out that way.

prob between nurse, monahan, ristolainen and zadarov. I'd take nurse

If avs pick Mckinnon, everything becomes a whole lot more complicated
- Meeqsb

Pit did the same thing with Staal with Crosby and Malkin in there...didn't seem a problem to them, nor would Toews the guy right after have been.

Pit did the same thing with Staal with Crosby and Malkin in there...didn't seem a problem to them, nor would Toews the guy right after have been.
- AdamFrench

Yes however Crosby was obviously the best, and I am not terrible sure what the scouting reports were saying (as hindsight is 20/20) however after malkin was Barker and Ladd.

If Mckinnon was by far and away the best playing in the draft I would say go for it, however Jones and Mckinnon are close enough to where the avs can draft by need, which is Defense.

If the avs take Mckinnon I would hope they already have some solid trades set in place to fix their defensive problems.

Yes however Crosby was obviously the best, and I am not terrible sure what the scouting reports were saying (as hindsight is 20/20) however after malkin was Barker and Ladd.

If Mckinnon was by far and away the best playing in the draft I would say go for it, however Jones and Mckinnon are close enough to where the avs can draft by need, which is Defense.

If the avs take Mckinnon I would hope they already have some solid trades set in place to fix their defensive problems.
- Meeqsb

Was often put in the conversation above Malkin. poop happens.

It would be harder and they'd need to get rid of Stastny/Duchene/O'Reilly at some point sure, or just move one to wing.

Was often put in the conversation above Malkin. poop happens.

It would be harder and they'd need to get rid of Stastny/Duchene/O'Reilly at some point sure, or just move one to wing.
- AdamFrench

Stastny would be traded right away and then O'reilly would be traded when he was eligible for defensive help, however who could possibly say for what. However drafting Mckinnon could lower the offers for stastny.

Although I wouldn't mind having Duchene and Mckinnon up the middle for years to come and I think Gabe and Mckinnon would play very well together.

Yes however Crosby was obviously the best, and I am not terrible sure what the scouting reports were saying (as hindsight is 20/20) however after malkin was Barker and Ladd.

If Mckinnon was by far and away the best playing in the draft I would say go for it, however Jones and Mckinnon are close enough to where the avs can draft by need, which is Defense.

If the avs take Mckinnon I would hope they already have some solid trades set in place to fix their defensive problems.
- Meeqsb

1 scout had Malkin ahead of Ovechkin. I remember reading it from the hockey news. Olesz even said he was gonna be better than Ovechkin but Phaneuf destroyed him. We don't even know where is Olesz anymore...

http://m.youtube.com/#/wa...2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQpvfOPxs890

Interesting. I have a feeling I know what everyone will be commenting on.

Cloutier/Carolina was gifted Nich by Esplen's unorthodox pick. If that happens, the Canes are going to be mighty pleased.

By extension, the flames were gifted Barkov.

Esplen could have had Shinkaruk at 9 easily, but he nabs Monahan there as consequence.

Also ,the Flyers would be cheesed to see Ristolainen come off right before their pick.
- Morris

I was pick straight off my personal list. I would have liked to have dropped 4 to 7 and picked Shinkaruk there but no trades allowed

Honestly, if Nurse's ceiling is a just a shutdown defenseman, he shouldn't go 7th overall. There are players like Lindholm and Monahan that project to be high-end scorers, the types of players you really can't get elsewhere, since more and more teams are locking up their young studs before free agency. Shutdown defensemen are a little easier to get than high-end forwards. If that's what Nurse's ceiling is, he's not the best player available.

Honestly, if Nurse's ceiling is a just a shutdown defenseman, he shouldn't go 7th overall. There are players like Lindholm and Monahan that project to be high-end scorers, the types of players you really can't get elsewhere, since more and more teams are locking up their young studs before free agency. Shutdown defensemen are a little easier to get than high-end forwards. If that's what Nurse's ceiling is, he's not the best player available.
- isles10289

Edm really shouldn't need more scoring past Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge. They need some good 2 way players and a new defense.

A true shut down Dman would do the oilers miles better than a bit more scoring.

Edm really shouldn't need more scoring past Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge. They need some good 2 way players and a new defense.

A true shut down Dman would do the oilers miles better than a bit more scoring.
- Meeqsb

I'm glad it won't happen but I bet Zadorov is the right player for Edmonton. Nurse is all wristshots and big strides. Zadorov has a bomb from the point and would probably balace well with Justin Schultz.

Why did Shinkaruk fall this year anyway? I thought I remember having heard about him as a consensus top 5 last year.
- Morris

maybe it has something to do with losing Emerson Etem this season and his 61 goals from the previous year, i definetly would be surprised if he went in the top 5

the comparison to Giroux seems to be a tall order even at that age Giroux was putting up back to back 100+ point seasons.....maybe its cuz i havent seen him play enough but i have a hard time seeing Shinkaruk in the top 5

i do get that he might have Giroux like skill set, but point being Giroux could put it to use at the highest level even back then, showing you its likely it can translate in the NHL, not sure if the same can be said for Shinkaruk (enough for him to be vaulted to top 5 anyways)

Edm really shouldn't need more scoring past Yak, Hall, Ebs and Nuge. They need some good 2 way players and a new defense.

A true shut down Dman would do the oilers miles better than a bit more scoring.
- Meeqsb

I think it's more a two-way guy than a true shutdown guy. but in essence I agree. We needn't overreact in a search for size in the top 6.

Honestly, if Nurse's ceiling is a just a shutdown defenseman, he shouldn't go 7th overall. There are players like Lindholm and Monahan that project to be high-end scorers, the types of players you really can't get elsewhere, since more and more teams are locking up their young studs before free agency. Shutdown defensemen are a little easier to get than high-end forwards. If that's what Nurse's ceiling is, he's not the best player available.
- isles10289

5th overall Luke Schenn totally agrees with you.

Honestly, if Nurse's ceiling is a just a shutdown defenseman, he shouldn't go 7th overall. There are players like Lindholm and Monahan that project to be high-end scorers, the types of players you really can't get elsewhere, since more and more teams are locking up their young studs before free agency. Shutdown defensemen are a little easier to get than high-end forwards. If that's what Nurse's ceiling is, he's not the best player available.
- isles10289

Nurse isn't a shutdown defenseman. He's a defenseman who excels defensively with up in the air or burgeoning offensive skill.

Monahan is no more a high end scorer in terms of forwards than Nurse is in terms of defense.

Shame is only about ten or so guys actually put in work here, so this is more or less impossible.

But yeah, that'd be ideal.
- Travis Yost

It can't be that hard to find someone willing to write a blog every couple of days about a particular team, can it? There are a handful of commenters on this site that seem to have the time to write something of substance.

maybe it has something to do with losing Emerson Etem this season and his 61 goals from the previous year, i definetly would be surprised if he went in the top 5

the comparison to Giroux seems to be a tall order even at that age Giroux was putting up back to back 100+ point seasons.....maybe its cuz i havent seen him play enough but i have a hard time seeing Shinkaruk in the top 5

i do get that he might have Giroux like skill set, but point being Giroux could put it to use at the highest level even back then, showing you its likely it can translate in the NHL, not sure if the same came be said for Shinkaruk (enough for him to be vaulted to top 5 anyways)
- Habitants98

91 and 86 points in the Dub is pretty much the same as 103 and 112 in the Q.

believes' the picking of D men...early will be the trend again this year....AVs' will take JONES 1st ..........cant miss.......

91 and 86 points in the Dub is pretty much the same as 103 and 112 in the Q.
- IanEsplen

i would say.....

Shinkaruk first 3 CHL seasons - 42, 91, 86
Giroux first 3 CHL seasons - 103, 112, 106

these are not really comparable, especially when you can't even find another player on Giroux's teams that you recognize or that has made an NHL team...nvm having a 60 goal scorer on your wing such as Shinkaruk had in his best year...if G got drafted at #22 with those CHL stats (and in a kinda weak draft-after the top 5), you're gonna be hard pressed to convince ppl Shinkaruk belongs in the top 5 of a REALLY strong 2013 draft class

points arent everything but at the same time whate else pushes a 5'10 forward like Shinkaruk into the top picks? either way i stick to the point that the Giroux comparison is a tall order to help explain why you think he belongs there

i would say.....

Shinkaruk first 3 CHL seasons - 42, 91, 86
Giroux first 3 CHL seasons - 103, 112, 106

these are not really comparable, especially when you can't even find another player on Giroux's teams that you recognize or that has made an NHL team...nvm having a 60 goal scorer on your wing such as Shinkaruk had in his best year...if G got drafted at #22 with those CHL stats (and in a kinda weak draft-after the top 5), you're gonna be hard pressed to convince ppl Shinkaruk belongs in the top 5 of a REALLY strong 2013 draft class

points arent everything but at the same time whate else pushes a 5'10 forward like Shinkaruk into the top picks? either way i stick to the point that the Giroux comparison is a tall order to help explain why you think he belongs there
- Habitants98

While this is true, Giroux's first Q year was his draft year because the OHL left him undrafted (How dumb do they look now eh?). Shinkaruk was 16/17 his first year.

While this is true, Giroux's first Q year was his draft year because the OHL left him undrafted (How dumb do they look now eh?). Shinkaruk was 16/17 his first year.
- AdamFrench

Good point. Definitely a strong case to be made for Shinkaruk.

I think if Barkov is available, Carolina will definitely take them, maybe Cloutier never noticed but most of the season the two Staal brothers played on the same line, and not as separate C's, so adding Barkov definitely won't hurt them!