Yet he got fired. Must be tough for him to watch right now.

The Leafs have one of the youngest teams, and are playing solid and are firmly in a playoff spot.

With ALL the crap he got for the Kessel trade, people ignored his terrific trades like getting Lupul.Gardiner for beauchemin, or FRanson for nothing, or JVR for Schenn.

His drafting of Kadri looks brilliant. The team has a very good future with a blue chipper in Rielly still not on the team.

Nonis did do some solid things that helped, like sending Conolly down and opening up a spot for Kadri. But Burke did indeed do a "Non-traditional" rebuild that's looking good right now.

The day of the draft, for Kadri, Burke , got up from the Leaf table, and walked over to Brian Murray, made it short and simple, "are you taking Kadri, with your pick". Murray said, yes. Burke, then went back to the table. Next pick, was the Leafs pick. Burke went up and said, " with the seventh pick, the Toronto Maple Leafs, pick Nazen Kadri. Anyone, who watched the draft, will remember, Burke at his best. Especially, Murray.

The day of the draft, for Kadri, Burke , got up from the Leaf table, and walked over to Brian Murray, made it short and simple, "are you taking Kadri, with your pick". Murray said, yes. Burke, then went back to the table. Next pick, was the Leafs pick. Burke went up and said, " with the seventh pick, the Toronto Maple Leafs, pick Nazen Kadri. Anyone, who watched the draft, will remember, Burke at his best. Especially, Murray.
- LukeRyan

Kind of... Burke actually informed Murray that he was taking Kadri prior to making the announcement.

The day of the draft, for Kadri, Burke , got up from the Leaf table, and walked over to Brian Murray, made it short and simple, "are you taking Kadri, with your pick". Murray said, yes. Burke, then went back to the table. Next pick, was the Leafs pick. Burke went up and said, " with the seventh pick, the Toronto Maple Leafs, pick Nazen Kadri. Anyone, who watched the draft, will remember, Burke at his best. Especially, Murray.
- LukeRyan

Bryan Murray walked over to Burke

It's ironic how things work out...In 09', during the last game of the season, plug Boyd Devereaux scored a hattrick and the Leafs won, pushing them down from 5th overall to 7th overall in the draft. For the longest time that was seen as a such a flucky, disastrous thing to happen to the Leafs as it cost them Brayden Schenn.

Now almost 4 years later it's looking like a lucky break. Boyd Devereux can sleep better now.

It's ironic how things work out...In 09', during the last game of the season, plug Boyd Devereaux scored a hattrick and the Leafs won, pushing them down from 5th overall to 7th overall in the draft. For the longest time that was seen as a such a flucky, disastrous thing to happen to the Leafs as it cost them Brayden Schenn.

Now almost 4 years later it's looking like a lucky break. Boyd Devereux can sleep better now.
- RogerRoeper

I agree his fingerprints are all over this team, and they are going to make the playoffs with the current line up.

My question is, who sits come the playoffs?

As we've seen in the past "tough guys" don't play many minutes during the regular season, and rarely suit up in the playoffs.

I would not be going out on a limb to suggest that Frazer McLaren & Colton Orr may be spending the playoffs in the press-box. Who steps in to those spots come the playoffs? How does it affect the style of play?

Just wondering what leaf fans think about this.
- Doppleganger

Probably only one comes out, I doubt both come out. They may alternate who's playing on a night to night basis. If they were to play only one each a night I'd prefer McClaren. IMO he's a better player.

It all depends on what happens on Wednesday. Right now they have Kormorov and MacArthur that are injured and may be back soon. Mac Is UFA coming up and they may deal him for futures. that'd only leave one healthy alternative to replace the goon squad, thus one stays in.

I wonder if burke would have been ok with waiving connolly and komisarek this year

because realistically this is still his team not much has changed outside of that

oh god why did i post in here

april 2014 edit

I wonder if burke would have been ok with waiving connolly and komisarek this year

because realistically this is still his team not much has changed outside of that
- nightmare3020

I agree with these points. Lombardi being dumped as well. That's something Nonis deserves a lot of credit for.

The day of the draft, for Kadri, Burke , got up from the Leaf table, and walked over to Brian Murray, made it short and simple, "are you taking Kadri, with your pick". Murray said, yes. Burke, then went back to the table. Next pick, was the Leafs pick. Burke went up and said, " with the seventh pick, the Toronto Maple Leafs, pick Nazen Kadri. Anyone, who watched the draft, will remember, Burke at his best. Especially, Murray.
- LukeRyan

Meh we still got a great young blueliner

Meh we still got a great young blueliner
- top shelf 15

Injury prone.

I agree with these points. Lombardi being dumped as well. That's something Nonis deserves a lot of credit for.
- RogerRoeper

Burke put all the pieces in place, and then Nonis actually followed through on the accountability aspect of it. The Kessel trade was a lot to give up, but hard to say he lost any other deals he ever made for the Leafs. They look to be solidly in the playoffs this year and the cupboards are well stocked with talent in the minors too.

Injury prone.
- RogerRoeper

Why do you say that he has had two injuries worth noting ,he may never get injured again

Assessing his re-build, when the leafs were in a playoff spot, may have been a bit premature.

The leafs didn't have a proven number one starter then, and they still don't.
- Doppleganger

Only on the Leafs would people question Bernier. 923 save% facing by far the most avg. shots in the NHL. He's not proven by your standards, only because he's only had 1 year to prove it and he did so by playing very good.

And the Leafs regression had to do with Nonis' moves as well.

Only on the Leafs would people question Bernier. 923 save% facing by far the most avg. shots in the NHL. He's not proven by your standards, only because he's only had 1 year to prove it and he did so by playing very good.

And the Leafs regression had to do with Nonis' moves as well.
- RogerRoeper

I'll grant you that he's an upgrade on Reimer, who should be moved.





I wonder if Tim Leiweke is going to let the new President, plan the parade route now?

I'll grant you that he's an upgrade on Reimer, who should be moved.





I wonder if Tim Leiweke is going to let the new President, plan the parade route now?
- Doppleganger

Steve Buffery had a good column yesterday pointing out that Shanahan said exactly the same things as Burke did when he was first hired (except he did not use the word truculence). What a miserable mess. As Buffery explains, this is nothing more than a carnival barker (Leiweke) trying to hype a second rate show.

Steve Buffery had a good column yesterday pointing out that Shanahan said exactly the same things as Burke did when he was first hired (except he did not use the word truculence). What a miserable mess. As Buffery explains, this is nothing more than a carnival barker (Leiweke) trying to hype a second rate show.
- spatso

No??

No??
- burn

http://www.ottawasun.com/...e-maple-leafs-are-selling

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/14/the-beezer-aint-buying-what-the-maple-leafs-are-selling
- spatso

Good for him. I watched the presser live, don't need to read some moron's opinion of what happened.


Shanny didn't say anything of the sort like Burke did. he was quite and low key, no big proclamations. Comparing this to Burke is wrong and utterly clueless.

Good for him. I watched the presser live, don't need to read some moron's opinion of what happened.


Shanny didn't say anything of the sort like Burke did. he was quite and low key, no big proclamations. Comparing this to Burke is wrong and utterly clueless.
- burn

Perhaps you did not read Buffery. His problem is not with Shanahan. He is really talking about Lieweke who has put Shanahan in an impossible position. The goal posts are being moved again but the starting point still remains the same.

Perhaps you did not read Buffery. His problem is not with Shanahan. He is really talking about Lieweke who has put Shanahan in an impossible position. The goal posts are being moved again but the starting point still remains the same.
- spatso

And yet you said Shanahan said the same as burke did when he was hired....... and posted a nonsensical article that didn't prove your post.


I don't even know what that last part is supposed to mean.

And yet you said Shanahan said the same as burke did when he was hired....... and posted a nonsensical article that didn't prove your post.


I don't even know what that last part is supposed to mean.
- burn

Duh! Buffery said Shanahan said the same thing (without the truculance). His issue is not what Shanahan said. He was caling out Lieweke for putting Shanahan in the position of having to say the obvious in a contrived meeting with the media. Specifically, by hiring Shanahan on the day the season ends, he changes the dialogue, nobody has to answer any questions about what just happened this year. Does Shanahan now have the opportunity to begin another five year rebuild?

i have no issues with what Shanahan said yesterday. Leiwike is a different story.. but if he just lets BS run things and says out that fine.

i do not see the ego that Burke has in BS..i am cautiously optimistic he can at least turn the ship around and point it the other way..whether he hits the mark... who knows

Perhaps you did not read Buffery. His problem is not with Shanahan. He is really talking about Lieweke who has put Shanahan in an impossible position. The goal posts are being moved again but the starting point still remains the same.
- spatso

How exactly? Is it really that hard to improve the team?