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- xXwagzXx

Perhaps two long for you too learn how two spell.

If you don't want to pay the price for Iggy, Cammy might be had instead. Just like Briere, he's a proven playoff warrior and the price would likely be far more palatable.

There is no way Armstrong is dumb enough to move Shattenkirk for Briere. That sounds like a rumor that was started by Flyers fan. Kinda like the Hamilton for Briere rumor that I'm beginning right now. (e2) And while I do like Boychuk, I don't know that the answer to the Flyers' problems is another ~$3.5M 2nd pairing defensive defenseman.

I don't think Calgary has anything that would even start the conversation for a Lucic trade. I suppose we'll never accuse Feaster of selling for below market value. We'll probably never accuse Feaster of selling in the first place, either.

What about Brenden Morrow he would be an up grade from Bourque, I think he would fit well with the Bruins and could be had at a reasonable price

I agree that Iginla for Lucic wouldn't happen, but it's not like the Bruins will be able to get him for a bag of pucks.

Even if it is decided that it is time to do it, The Flames aren't going to trade the face of the franchise unless the pieces returning are going to be a real step in the right direction. At the same time they don't have to trade him.

If the Bruins need what Iginla can offer (no he isn't the player he once was but that potential to be is what a team will be hoping to get) it will cost probably a good to top prospect and a their first. Roster players probably won't be on the table. The Bruins will be gearing up for another cup run so they aren't going to give up current active pieces. Their first will probably be int eh pick 25-30 range, so it's not like it is a "top" pick. And for prospects look at a Spooner or a Knight.

Yeah Bruins fans will think it is a lot. But that's what it takes. Trading for a rental (and potentially a re-sign) is about getting what you need now. And if the Bruins aren't willing to do it, they may have to go against it if say Pittsburgh was to pull the trigger on it.

What about Brenden Morrow he would be an up grade from Bourque, I think he would fit well with the Bruins and could be had at a reasonable price
- Spoons19

I've always liked Brendan Morrow, and I think that he fills the need they have for a veteran that can bang and score on the top-nine. I really wonder if he'll be moved. They were linked to him last year, but nothing came of it. This year, however, may be a different story. So many options out there really.

There is no way Armstrong is dumb enough to move Shattenkirk for Briere. That sounds like a rumor that was started by Flyers fan. Kinda like the Hamilton for Briere rumor that I'm beginning right now. (e2) And while I do like Boychuk, I don't know that the answer to the Flyers' problems is another ~$3.5M 2nd pairing defensive defenseman.

I don't think Calgary has anything that would even start the conversation for a Lucic trade. I suppose we'll never accuse Feaster of selling for below market value. We'll probably never accuse Feaster of selling in the first place, either.
- rhornsburg

No, no, that's just the reported asking price by Holmgren and company.

You're right, Boychuk's solid, but he's not a No. 1 defensemen. He's without question helped by skating with Chara on a nightly basis.

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- Symba007

that ship has sailed

I agree that Iginla for Lucic wouldn't happen, but it's not like the Bruins will be able to get him for a bag of pucks.

Even if it is decided that it is time to do it, The Flames aren't going to trade the face of the franchise unless the pieces returning are going to be a real step in the right direction. At the same time they don't have to trade him.

If the Bruins need what Iginla can offer (no he isn't the player he once was but that potential to be is what a team will be hoping to get) it will cost probably a good to top prospect and a their first. Roster players probably won't be on the table. The Bruins will be gearing up for another cup run so they aren't going to give up current active pieces. Their first will probably be int eh pick 25-30 range, so it's not like it is a "top" pick. And for prospects look at a Spooner or a Knight.

Yeah Bruins fans will think it is a lot. But that's what it takes. Trading for a rental (and potentially a re-sign) is about getting what you need now. And if the Bruins aren't willing to do it, they may have to go against it if say Pittsburgh was to pull the trigger on it.
- dal_johnson

I'd say Iginla is close to a bag of pucks at this point. He's under contract for about 20 or 30 more games before anyone in the league can sign him. Calgary is an awful team who would be best to part with him during the horrific rebuild starring them right in the face.

I agree that Iginla for Lucic wouldn't happen, but it's not like the Bruins will be able to get him for a bag of pucks.

Even if it is decided that it is time to do it, The Flames aren't going to trade the face of the franchise unless the pieces returning are going to be a real step in the right direction. At the same time they don't have to trade him.

If the Bruins need what Iginla can offer (no he isn't the player he once was but that potential to be is what a team will be hoping to get) it will cost probably a good to top prospect and a their first. Roster players probably won't be on the table. The Bruins will be gearing up for another cup run so they aren't going to give up current active pieces. Their first will probably be int eh pick 25-30 range, so it's not like it is a "top" pick. And for prospects look at a Spooner or a Knight.

Yeah Bruins fans will think it is a lot. But that's what it takes. Trading for a rental (and potentially a re-sign) is about getting what you need now. And if the Bruins aren't willing to do it, they may have to go against it if say Pittsburgh was to pull the trigger on it.
- dal_johnson

A 1st and a prospect is what they paid for Kaberle, and I would gladly pay the same for Iginla. Give Iginla a couple games with Krejci and Lucic, I would bet anything his stats immediately start improving.

I am also a big fan of Morrow and would be happy if the Bruins got him (at the right price). But I question whether he is the type of player Chiarelli should cash in assets for. Again, I like Morrow a lot, but if the Bruins are looking for someone to play on that third line, I think they need to shoot for someone with a little more skill and little less grind. Now grind is always a good thing, but the Bruins have that in spades already, especially since Claude is one of the few coaches who gives his fourth line (virtually ALL grind) a regular shift. Morrow would help in many areas, but I think a player who has a little more speed and skill is more in line with what they need, especially if that player could help on the PP.

I am reminded of the Kelly and Peverley trades Chiarelli made. Kelly was more of the grinder and peverley was more of the skill guy. Morrow, to me, is more Kelly than Pevereley, and in my estimation this team needs someone who is more like Peverley.

If Chiarelli settles on targeting a Morrow-like 2nd/3rd tier player (i.e., not Iginla, Alfie, Briere, etc.), I would rather see him go after someone like Matt Cullen (who is SUCH a classic Chiarelli and Claude player....very versatile) or Weiss. If Chiarelli got desperate, perhaps even a gray beard like Milan Hejduk who has been miscast as a top 6 player in Colorado these past few years but could really help a team like the Bruins if given limited ice time (would love to see him play 12 minutes a game, including PP time, on the third line with Paille or Greg Campbell getting a couple shifts in his place during the course of the game). One sleeper could be David Legwand from Nash. He has another year on his contract, but strikes me as another Chiarelli type player.

PS I don't see how the Bruins could even consider moving Boychuk. Aside from how criminally underrated the guy is, they don't have anything in the way of NHL ready depth.

I'd say Iginla is close to a bag of pucks at this point. He's under contract for about 20 or 30 more games before anyone in the league can sign him. Calgary is an awful team who would be best to part with him during the horrific rebuild starring them right in the face.
- TheJerseyDevil1

You're deluding yourself if you don't think there will be a bidding war for Iggy at the TDL.

He's not 2004 Iggy anymore, but even over the past 4-5 games he's been playing with a chip on his shoulder again. He's still a difference maker.

I'd say Iginla is close to a bag of pucks at this point. He's under contract for about 20 or 30 more games before anyone in the league can sign him. Calgary is an awful team who would be best to part with him during the horrific rebuild starring them right in the face.
- TheJerseyDevil1

I see you are an authority on the Flames, you must watch all the games & your wisdom that 30-40 goal scorers are worth a bag of pucks is somewhat overwhelming. How's that Kovalchuk contract working out? He must be leading the league with the money he gets. Only thing left for Iggy is to win a Cup, so if he moves on from the Flames it will be his choice & to a team he would like to play some hockey with. I would say teams like Pitt, Boston & Vancouver would be ones that would interest him, not New Jersey. And if he goes there in a trade, has a taste of playoffs, chances are he will resign for a few more years at probably not a bad cap hit to be hopefully on a winner. So it could be well worth the investment.

You're deluding yourself if you don't think there will be a bidding war for Iggy at the TDL.

He's not 2004 Iggy anymore, but even over the past 4-5 games he's been playing with a chip on his shoulder again. He's still a difference maker.
- jtommyt

I'd be surprised. He's 35 with a couple more years of hockey left in him. He's of no value to Calgary going forward, so they have no leverage. Only a handful of contenders would want a rental with that cap hit unless it for maybe a midround pick

You're deluding yourself if you don't think there will be a bidding war for Iggy at the TDL.

He's not 2004 Iggy anymore, but even over the past 4-5 games he's been playing with a chip on his shoulder again. He's still a difference maker.
- jtommyt

I agree there will be lots of interest in him, and lots of teams willing to give up assets to acquire him, but I do think the packages Calgary seems to believe it will get are WAY out of whack. With the cap being what it is, teams are less prone to giving up cheap, young talent, even for an extremely valuable veteran like Iggy. I mean, Columbus had the same visions of grandeur for a package for Nash and had to settle for WAY less than what they expected. Presumably it was the best offer they got. If Calgary thinks its getting more for Iggy than Columbus did for Nash they are crazy.

I see you are an authority on the Flames, you must watch all the games & your wisdom that 30-40 goal scorers are worth a bag of pucks is somewhat overwhelming. How's that Kovalchuk contract working out? He must be leading the league with the money he gets. Only thing left for Iggy is to win a Cup, so if he moves on from the Flames it will be his choice & to a team he would like to play some hockey with. I would say teams like Pitt, Boston & Vancouver would be ones that would interest him, not New Jersey. And if he goes there in a trade, has a taste of playoffs, chances are he will resign for a few more years at probably not a bad cap hit to be hopefully on a winner. So it could be well worth the investment.
- Kevin R

The fact that I'm a Jersey fan has no bearing on this discussion, but just for the record, Kovy's cap hit is 6.6 (as opposed to ones like Lecaviler 7.7, Heatly 7.5 Parise 7.5, Crosby 8.7, Malkin 8.7, Weber 7.8) and he leads the league in forward ice time and gives 110% every night. He's played over 30 minutes of ice time twice already and its just the regular season. The Devils are squeezing every penny out of him

I am also a big fan of Morrow and would be happy if the Bruins got him (at the right price). But I question whether he is the type of player Chiarelli should cash in assets for. Again, I like Morrow a lot, but if the Bruins are looking for someone to play on that third line, I think they need to shoot for someone with a little more skill and little less grind. Now grind is always a good thing, but the Bruins have that in spades already, especially since Claude is one of the few coaches who gives his fourth line (virtually ALL grind) a regular shift. Morrow would help in many areas, but I think a player who has a little more speed and skill is more in line with what they need, especially if that player could help on the PP.

I am reminded of the Kelly and Peverley trades Chiarelli made. Kelly was more of the grinder and peverley was more of the skill guy. Morrow, to me, is more Kelly than Pevereley, and in my estimation this team needs someone who is more like Peverley.

If Chiarelli settles on targeting a Morrow-like 2nd/3rd tier player (i.e., not Iginla, Alfie, Briere, etc.), I would rather see him go after someone like Matt Cullen (who is SUCH a classic Chiarelli and Claude player....very versatile) or Weiss. If Chiarelli got desperate, perhaps even a gray beard like Milan Hejduk who has been miscast as a top 6 player in Colorado these past few years but could really help a team like the Bruins if given limited ice time (would love to see him play 12 minutes a game, including PP time, on the third line with Paille or Greg Campbell getting a couple shifts in his place during the course of the game). One sleeper could be David Legwand from Nash. He has another year on his contract, but strikes me as another Chiarelli type player.

PS I don't see how the Bruins could even consider moving Boychuk. Aside from how criminally underrated the guy is, they don't have anything in the way of NHL ready depth.
- TheGreatNumber8

I don't think Cullen would come to Boston via trade. He is from Minnesota and loves playing for his hometown. He will retire a Wild member. They will also make the playoffs so I can't see Fletcher trading him unless they get help back in the deal.

I was disappointed to see Gagne back to the Flyers, I thought he would have been a good pick up for this Bruins team. He seems to be healthy this season and has a track record of scoring clutch goals. Another name out in LA I could maybe see is Penner. He looked good last postseason and maybe a change of scenery would do him well. There are a lot of options out there once you start looking around the league.

I'm sure Chiarelli is feeling the pressure to make a deal with the improvements both Philly and Montreal made, and the inevitable one the Pens make. This Bruins "depth" is in question, everyone in the bottom 6 with the exception of Paille is a minus player and not producing. This team will need secondary scoring come late march/early April and into the playoffs. Just please no more over the hill players who can't produce a la Rolston/Mottau

I don't think Cullen would come to Boston via trade. He is from Minnesota and loves playing for his hometown. He will retire a Wild member. They will also make the playoffs so I can't see Fletcher trading him unless they get help back in the deal.

I was disappointed to see Gagne back to the Flyers, I thought he would have been a good pick up for this Bruins team. He seems to be healthy this season and has a track record of scoring clutch goals. Another name out in LA I could maybe see is Penner. He looked good last postseason and maybe a change of scenery would do him well. There are a lot of options out there once you start looking around the league.

I'm sure Chiarelli is feeling the pressure to make a deal with the improvements both Philly and Montreal made, and the inevitable one the Pens make. This Bruins "depth" is in question, everyone in the bottom 6 with the exception of Paille is a minus player and not producing. This team will need secondary scoring come late march/early April and into the playoffs. Just please no more over the hill players who can't produce a la Rolston/Mottau
- fudd1689

Yes I agree there, but in order to get you gotta give, and PC isn't willing to give up roster players.

I agree that Iginla for Lucic wouldn't happen, but it's not like the Bruins will be able to get him for a bag of pucks.

Even if it is decided that it is time to do it, The Flames aren't going to trade the face of the franchise unless the pieces returning are going to be a real step in the right direction. At the same time they don't have to trade him.

If the Bruins need what Iginla can offer (no he isn't the player he once was but that potential to be is what a team will be hoping to get) it will cost probably a good to top prospect and a their first. Roster players probably won't be on the table. The Bruins will be gearing up for another cup run so they aren't going to give up current active pieces. Their first will probably be int eh pick 25-30 range, so it's not like it is a "top" pick. And for prospects look at a Spooner or a Knight.

Yeah Bruins fans will think it is a lot. But that's what it takes. Trading for a rental (and potentially a re-sign) is about getting what you need now. And if the Bruins aren't willing to do it, they may have to go against it if say Pittsburgh was to pull the trigger on it.
- dal_johnson

prospect the caliber of sooner or knight and a first? done. all day long.

I'd say Iginla is close to a bag of pucks at this point. He's under contract for about 20 or 30 more games before anyone in the league can sign him. Calgary is an awful team who would be best to part with him during the horrific rebuild starring them right in the face.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Iginla would easliy fetch a 1st (probably a 1st+) as a rental player

Ty Anderson: "Well, who now?"
- tyanderson

i'm a fan of the Bruins losing out on anything, i'll take it!

brought to you by hate! from Habs to Bs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzSUo8iPp4M

i'm a fan of the Bruins losing out on anything, i'll take it!

brought to you by hate! from Habs to Bs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzSUo8iPp4M
- Habitants98

First Kaberle, now Ryder......are the Habs sneaky trying to sign the entire Bruins cup roster???????