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Paul McCann
Nashville Predators
Location: Nolensville, TN
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 19 @ 10:50 AM ET
Paul McCann: What a Wake Up Call!
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:53 AM ET
I am surprised the average salary wasn't closer to 9 mil per in the offer
wasted years
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 11.26.2007

Jul 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
Fack this!
MATCH!
This is terrible for Nashville.
big_dion
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I've been successful in business for years which is why I can be on hockeybuzz. - HH
Joined: 08.23.2010

Jul 19 @ 10:55 AM ET
1 hyphanated word to sum this all up:

LOCK-OUT
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Jul 19 @ 10:58 AM ET
Nashville would be dumb to match. Take the 4 first round picks and move on.
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 19 @ 10:59 AM ET
Paul there is an option 4!

It would be the the Preds letting Weber go, but then the Flyers trading players back to Nashville in a second transaction for some of the compensatory picks. It would be 2 seperate transactions.

This took lace in the Chris Gratton deal.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
Nashville would be dumb to match. Take the 4 first round picks and move on.
- MnGump


Weber is a franchise Dman and they do not come around every day. THe best case scenario would be to match if they have the coin or make a decent trade.

4 1st round picks in the 20-30 range is not all that great.
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:00 AM ET
MATCH and do what the guy above me said.
chipiii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.16.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:01 AM ET
how do the owners say they have the cash to be a cap team when they keep losing money every year?
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:03 AM ET
1 hyphanated word to sum this all up:

LOCK-OUT

- big_dion



i would laugh so hard if the flyers did this and then the cap went down in the next CBA forcing them to loose key pieces of their team
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:04 AM ET
MATCH and do what the guy above me said.
- LeftCoaster


I read a Nash fan on this site post (the day after Suter walked) that Poile had to try to sign Weber.. if nothing got done..trade him for the best package. Because he waited too long, they only have one trading partner now, and the package may be less.

Rockhead_37
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Bolton, ON
Joined: 09.11.2010

Jul 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
option 4 is the NHL nullifies the deal and fines the flyers, because this contract is clearly SALARY CAP CIRCUMVENTION!
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
Nashville would be dumb to match. Take the 4 first round picks and move on.
- MnGump


Will the Nashville fan base support a rebuild? Or would the team tank due to lack of interest?

I can't see how Nashville can afford to let Weber walk. Poile should have never of low balled Weber before arbitration last summer.
PoileRulezzzYo
Nashville Predators
Location: #Where'sDavidPoileHiding?
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:05 AM ET
The Flyers just Nashville a favor...and Weber a disservice in my opinion. The offer was WAY lower than I would have imagined. The Preds have alot of options now. They can match and get Weber for a pretty good price. Let him go for the picks or sign and trade for a big return. You have to know that alot of teams are loving that salary for Weber.

Sure the contract is way too long, but what stars aren't getting these ridiculous deals at this point?

I have an inkling more is at work here than Philly just trying to steal away Weber. Philly and Nash have a long history of swapping players. I doubt their GM did this to break that relationship.
chipiii
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.16.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Weber is a franchise Dman and they do not come around every day. THe best case scenario would be to match if they have the coin or make a decent trade.

4 1st round picks in the 20-30 range is not all that great.

- Hextall271


From 2006-2009, with 4 1st rounds pick in the 20-30 range you could get:
2006 - 22nd Giroux
2007 - 26th Perron
2008 - 22nd Eberle
2009 - 24th Johansson or 25th Caron

Weber for Giroux, Perron, Eberle + Johansson or Caron

You still think it's not that great at all?
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:07 AM ET
Poile better match that contract...
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
The Flyers just Nashville a favor...and Weber a disservice in my opinion. The offer was WAY lower than I would have imagined. The Preds have alot of options now. They can match and get Weber for a pretty good price. Let him go for the picks or sign and trade for a big return. You have to know that alot of teams are loving that salary for Weber.

Sure the contract is way too long, but what stars aren't getting these ridiculous deals at this point?

I have an inkling more is at work here than Philly just trying to steal away Weber. Philly and Nash have a long history of swapping players. I doubt their GM did this to break that relationship.

- PoileRulezzzYo

can only trade him to the flyers for the 1st year of the contract.
Starbuck
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Say no to Yakupov !!!
Joined: 09.08.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
From 2006-2009, with 4 1st rounds pick in the 20-30 range you could get:
2006 - 22nd Giroux
2007 - 26th Perron
2008 - 22nd Eberle
2009 - 24th Johansson or 25th Caron

Weber for Giroux, Perron, Eberle + Johansson or Caron

You still think it's not that great at all?

- chipiii


It's very unlikely that ANY team would get that lucky year in and out.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jul 19 @ 11:08 AM ET
option 4 is the NHL nullifies the deal and fines the flyers, because this contract is clearly SALARY CAP CIRCUMVENTION!
- Rockhead_37


With the CBA negotiations going on, I wouldn't doubt Bettman sticks his Richard in the middle of this.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
Paul McCann: What a Wake Up Call!
- pmccann


Nick must have his wires crossed. 3m salary in yr 11 to 1m in yr 12 not possible; the salary cannot drop by more than 50% from year to year. Remember the Max Talbot deal that got vetoed as it went from 2.5m to 1m in a year?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
well Paul as I said the other day, the Preds are still in a good position and they now have their answer to whether or not Weber is totally commited....by signing the sheet he is in an either or situation...Philly or Nashville.
Not sure the preds would trade a guy after paying him that much in year one...
It may be a boat load of young talent or they match....I don't see them settling for 4 picks....but if the the preds got 2 good young forwards with NHL experience and a solid top 4 d man along with a couple of those 20 something overalls, then it may be in their best interest to move on....Poile a great GM...Im sure he'll make the best choice.
flyers2001
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jul 19 @ 11:09 AM ET
The Flyers just Nashville a favor...and Weber a disservice in my opinion. The offer was WAY lower than I would have imagined. The Preds have alot of options now. They can match and get Weber for a pretty good price. Let him go for the picks or sign and trade for a big return. You have to know that alot of teams are loving that salary for Weber.

Sure the contract is way too long, but what stars aren't getting these ridiculous deals at this point?

I have an inkling more is at work here than Philly just trying to steal away Weber. Philly and Nash have a long history of swapping players. I doubt their GM did this to break that relationship.

- PoileRulezzzYo


This offer is what nashville should have given Weber in the first place! The Flyers did Weber a huge service and that's why he signed the Sheet! Long term deals will probably be nulified heading into the new CBA and this was Weber's last chance to get paid a huge amount of guranteed money over the long hual. Nashville should of locked Weber up last year prior to going to arbitration.
buelleo
Nashville Predators
Location: Sec 105 in Ca$hville, TN
Joined: 07.06.2006

Jul 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
Poile better match that contract...
- Starbuck


The $56M bonus money is what will keep NAS from matching...a mid-tier team cant afford it.

lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
i would laugh so hard if the flyers did this and then the cap went down in the next CBA forcing them to loose key pieces of their team
- ky678468


If the cap decreases due to the players taking a smaller percent of earnings than the current 57%, then all player salaries decrease accordingly.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

Jul 19 @ 11:10 AM ET
So i take it Pronger will never play again
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