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HockeyBuzz Fast Take
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:00 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: The Hotstove: Should Nashville Match Offer Sheet?
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:02 AM ET
Compensation should be two 1st, one 2nd, one 3rd round picks
djnicko
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ames, IA
Joined: 06.23.2009

Jul 19 @ 1:04 AM ET
Take the draft picks. Definitely.
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:06 AM ET
Take the draft picks. Definitely.
- djnicko


Based on 4 1st rounders or two 1st, 2nd, 3rd?
illdeliveries
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:07 AM ET
Depending on the compensation Nashville gets in draft picks, let him go. However, few prospects have a realistic chance on reaching his level of play. It may be worth matching especially with Suter out of the picture.....(frank) it, match that poop Preds!
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:08 AM ET
Compensation should be two 1st, one 2nd, one 3rd round picks
- mmold

Four firsts.
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:09 AM ET
Depending on the compensation Nashville gets in draft picks, let him go. However, few prospects have a realistic chance on reaching his level of play. It may be worth matching especially with Suter out of the picture.....(frank) it, match that poop Preds!
- illdeliveries


I am leaning towards matching because those flyers picks would be pretty low 1st rounders. Don't see them being very valuable unless Bryz has a meltdown. This is based on just the two 1st, 2nd, 3rd. I think Weber has no problem staying, probably got tired of negotiating.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:10 AM ET
And with Suter gone I'd take the four firsts and do the fast track rebuild. A couple are bound to be good picks.
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:11 AM ET
Four firsts.
- prock


Dreger just sent out a tweet that he may have been mistaken. Its two 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Look it up. Its based on 7.1mil aavg. to get 4 1st it would have to be over 8.4mil
HockeyBuzz Fast Take
Joined: 07.26.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:12 AM ET
Dreger just sent out a tweet that he may have been mistaken. Its two 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Look it up. Its based on 7.1mil aavg. to get 4 1st it would have to be over 8.4mil
- mmold


I think Dreger's mistaken.

If it's longer than five years, total contract value // five is your ratio -- or, $20M/year.

Four firsts.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:13 AM ET
Dreger just sent out a tweet that he may have been mistaken. Its two 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Look it up. Its based on 7.1mil aavg. to get 4 1st it would have to be over 8.4mil
- mmold


Well he was right the first time. Four firsts.

You take the total salary divided by number of years, to a Max of five. 20 mil average. Four firsts.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:14 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: The Hotstove: Should Nashville Match Offer Sheet?
- Travis.Yost

It depends on how much more than that they were planning to pay for Shea. It could be they were planning to max him regardless, in which case the Flyers just did them a favor by iron cladding the deal under RFA rights and the current CBA (who knows if they even COULD offer a contract like that nex year).

If the offer is wildly above what they were planning for, they would have lost him anyway and 4 1sts is about what they would be getting back in commensurate value.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:14 AM ET
I think Dreger's mistaken.

If it's longer than five years, total contract value // five is your ratio -- or, $20M/year.

Four firsts.

- Travis.Yost


Oh you think your smart do you.
Wingsfan61
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Westland, MI
Joined: 05.09.2008

Jul 19 @ 1:17 AM ET
Dreger just sent out a tweet that he may have been mistaken. Its two 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Look it up. Its based on 7.1mil aavg. to get 4 1st it would have to be over 8.4mil
- mmold


Yes, but that $7.1 is based on a straight $100 million for 14 yrs. According to Dreger, it's $100+ million. So, if true, it could be $117 mill for 14 yrs. And the way, things are going, it could be that.
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:17 AM ET
Oh you think your smart do you.
- prock


Well based on four 1st and the amount than I wouldn't match.
themizer
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:18 AM ET
Wow! The Preds have a tough choice to make. They could be late 1st rounders but it is still a tonne to give up for the Flyers. Guess Pronger is officially done.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:19 AM ET
Match it and trade him for an even better return
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:19 AM ET
Yes, but that $7.1 is based on a straight $100 million for 14 yrs. According to Dreger, it's $100+ million. So, if true, it could be $117 mill for 14 yrs. And the way, things are going, it could be that.
- Wingsfan61


It shouldn't matter. As long as it's five years or more(it is), it'll be four firsts whether it's $100M or $120M.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:20 AM ET
Well based on four 1st and the amount than I wouldn't match.
- mmold



I wouldn't either. They could have some very high picks of their own, along with some decent picks from Philly out of this. Start trading up with second and third Rounders, and imagine 8 or more top ten picks in four years?
Aaron Musick
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NCC-1701. No bloody A, B, C OR, CO
Joined: 12.17.2007

Jul 19 @ 1:27 AM ET
It comes down to a choice; get busy matchin' or get busy rebuildin'
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 19 @ 1:30 AM ET
Webers easily worth more than 4 mid-late to late first round picks
Match and trade
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jul 19 @ 1:30 AM ET
Match it and trade him for an even better return
- Danformo


So they trade him after a year? Someone else pointed out that it will also depend on if the deal is very heavily front loaded.
nfph
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schadenfreude, NY
Joined: 09.22.2006

Jul 19 @ 1:33 AM ET
Webers easily worth more than 4 mid-late to late first round picks
Match and trade

- Danformo

Why trade hm? Your franchise dman is now locked up below market for the next 14 years.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:40 AM ET
Why trade hm? Your franchise dman is now locked up below market for the next 14 years.
- nfph

Yep, I can't see any trade or pick compensation coming close to what Weber brings.
nategoalie
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Delta 20 min outside Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jul 19 @ 1:50 AM ET
letting him go without a fight would show nashville fans that this team cant support star talent. bye bye nashvilles chances at the playoffs or attracting anybody of the blue chip variety to play for this squad. I wonder how Rinne feels these days
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