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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:27 AM ET
John Jaeckel: Nash for Kane? Hjalmarsson
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:31 AM ET
What is the asking price for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

Mtl could use a top four defenseman, but not sure what they should send back for him. Maybe Eller or Leblanc...
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
What is the asking price for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

Mtl could use a top four defenseman, but not sure what they should send back for him. Maybe Eller or Leblanc...

- deadpoulet


send us max and you have a deal
Dinger0987
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 04.18.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:33 AM ET
send us max and you have a deal
- FourFeathers773


If only that were possible.
DK002
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Evanston, IL
Joined: 06.12.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:34 AM ET
JJ should be a busy day for you...look forward to reading more as the day progresses...

Howson has got to be under the gun at this point.
Yellow45
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Gatineau, QC
Joined: 06.13.2012

Jun 22 @ 9:35 AM ET
send us max and you have a deal
- FourFeathers773


That would never happen.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:35 AM ET
JJ should be a busy day for you...look forward to reading more as the day progresses...

Howson has got to be under the gun at this point.

- DK002


Gillis has got to be under the gun more than anyone. He is up the creek big time trying to move luongo, and it most likely should or has to happen today
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:36 AM ET
What is the asking price for Niklas Hjalmarsson?

Mtl could use a top four defenseman, but not sure what they should send back for him. Maybe Eller or Leblanc...

- deadpoulet


I've heard they want a center and cap relief.
al_blog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.13.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
JJ should be a busy day for you...look forward to reading more as the day progresses...

Howson has got to be under the gun at this point.

- DK002


Please let him be wrong, I have the day off and nothing to do:
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Hoping this isn't the case, but could be quiet day on trade front. Not many top end guys avail and too many teams involved. #TSN
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:37 AM ET
send us max and you have a deal
- FourFeathers773


They would pass on that, I would think.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 22 @ 9:38 AM ET
Please let him be wrong, I have the day off and nothing to do:
Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Hoping this isn't the case, but could be quiet day on trade front. Not many top end guys avail and too many teams involved. #TSN

- al_blog



Nobody knows. Plus me likey Dreger.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:43 AM ET
Gillis has got to be under the gun more than anyone. He is up the creek big time trying to move luongo, and it most likely should or has to happen today
- FourFeathers773


I'd imagine there are not too many teams looking to acquire Luongo and his contract. Toronto seems to be the only team that makes sense to me.

I'm betting that Gillis trades Schneider, or ends up holding onto both of his goalies.
DeepThreat
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Will be just like the trade deadline all this hype leading up to it and very little happening with exception of draft picks being moved around. Most teams will wait until free agency starts to address their needs and make trades as the dominos start to fall. Bowman doesn't have the STONES to make a major deal...... NO way Hawks move Kane for Nash and take on another HOSSA like contract.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
I've heard they want a center and cap relief.
- John Jaeckel


If that is the asking price, I have no idea what Buffalo could offer as all they have in that regard are Roy (no cap help unless you count his pending UFA status after this season) and Kevin Sundher.

I cannot imagine Buffalo is going to trade someone like Sundher, who has been really coming on, in a deal for a guy like Hjalmarsson.

He would only be part of a bigger deal for a top notch center.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:46 AM ET
I'd imagine there are not too many teams looking to acquire Luongo and his contract. Toronto seems to be the only team that makes sense to me.

I'm betting that Gillis trades Schneider, or ends up holding onto both of his goalies.

- EKolb13


I know they are professionals and all, but that would be an awfully uncomfortable locker room and relationship between luongo and the organization and luongo and schneider now. Especially since Vancouver has all but said that Scheider is their present and future
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 22 @ 9:47 AM ET
Will be just like the trade deadline all this hype leading up to it and very little happening with exception of draft picks being moved around. Most teams will wait until free agency starts to address their needs and make trades as the dominos start to fall. Bowman doesn't have the STONES to make a major deal...... NO way Hawks move Kane for Nash and take on another HOSSA like contract.
- DeepThreat


The trade market goes to sh-- after 7/1 because of the glut of free agents. Trades will get done more so before 7/1.

Also, how do you know, aside from any desire the Hawks might have to remove the Kane distraction, that they don't just really like Nash as a player? (they do)
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:49 AM ET
The trade market goes to sh-- after 7/1 because of the glut of free agents. Trades will get done more so before 7/1.

Also, how do you know, aside from any desire the Hawks might have to remove the Kane distraction, that they don't just really like Nash as a player? (they do)

- John Jaeckel


Nash is the exact type of player they need. He would be a monster with Toews.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:53 AM ET
I know they are professionals and all, but that would be an awfully uncomfortable locker room and relationship between luongo and the organization and luongo and schneider now. Especially since Vancouver has all but said that Scheider is their present and future
- FourFeathers773


I think if Gillis is that desperate to trade him, he's going to end up taking back a bad contract.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:54 AM ET
Nash is the exact type of player they need. He would be a monster with Toews.
- furso27


Agree.

I hate his salary, that's my only complaint.
DeepThreat
Joined: 07.08.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:55 AM ET
The trade market goes to sh-- after 7/1 because of the glut of free agents. Trades will get done more so before 7/1.

Also, how do you know, aside from any desire the Hawks might have to remove the Kane distraction, that they don't just really like Nash as a player? (they do)

- John Jaeckel



I will give you the trade front as i didn't not make my point correctly but my point was you will not see a ton of deals tonight at draft or tomorrow involving big time names as has been speculated.

They can like Nash all they want but Kane's contract is much more friendlier than Nash's and Kane on open market will get a much better return than NASH and one of the NHL's worst contracts. if trading Kane is what the Hawks have finally come too which I don't believe is the case at all, would rather take 2-3 players in a deal one involving a young goalie and a center over NASH
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:56 AM ET
Agree.

I hate his salary, that's my only complaint.

- EKolb13


thats the whole problem they are having, that contract and cap hit was DESIGNED to keep him from moving.

thats what you do when you plan to make someone your franchise player forever, they pretty much shot themselves in the foot here

same thing with ovechkins, lecavliers, and eric staal


those contracts were supposed to lock them down in that sweater forever
furso27
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 03.02.2009

Jun 22 @ 9:57 AM ET
Agree.

I hate his salary, that's my only complaint.

- EKolb13


If he scoring 40 and playing nasty like he used to, the salary is not going to bother me.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:58 AM ET
I would not discount the excitement that Kane can bring to a smaller market. And many teams I think would strongly consider bringing along the baggage to fill some seats. Obviously, CBJ want to bring in as many assets as possible, however, they can offset some of the talent by putting people in the seats.

If there is one thing I learned from JJ and marketing over the past few years it is this.

Kane would also be a good fit in Anaheim. Perry and Getz big guys.

Panthers, Coyotes other teams that can use his talent and cache'

deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 22 @ 9:59 AM ET
I will give you the trade front as i didn't not make my point correctly but my point was you will not see a ton of deals tonight at draft or tomorrow involving big time names as has been speculated.

They can like Nash all they want but Kane's contract is much more friendlier than Nash's and Kane on open market will get a much better return than NASH and one of the NHL's worst contracts. if trading Kane is what the Hawks have finally come too which I don't believe is the case at all, would rather take 2-3 players in a deal one involving a young goalie and a center over NASH

- DeepThreat


Pretty sure Luongo and Nash will be moved at some point, but otherwise most of the big names will stay put. Then again, we did see Carter and Richards being traded last year.

Will be interesting to see what will happen with Suter and Parise.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Jun 22 @ 9:59 AM ET
I would not discount the excitement that Kane can bring to a smaller market. And many teams I think would strongly consider bringing along the baggage to fill some seats. Obviously, CBJ want to bring in as many assets as possible, however, they can offset some of the talent by putting people in the seats.

If there is one thing I learned from JJ and marketing over the past few years it is this.

Kane would also be a good fit in Anaheim. Perry and Getz big guys.

Panthers, Coyotes other teams that can use his talent and cache'

- TrueGrit


Coyotes are not an option, at all.

He has ZERO fit with that system. Tippet wouldnt put up with him
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