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Rick Sadowski
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jul 5 @ 6:46 PM ET
Rick Sadowski: Pickard signs two-year deal; arbitration for Barrie, Grigorenko
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:51 PM ET
Picks


First person to offer for Barrie is going to get pistol whipped so hard
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jul 5 @ 6:52 PM ET
Barrie will end up signing a deal like ROR did.

5.5 year one. 7.5 year 2.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 5 @ 6:55 PM ET
Las Vegas is probably loving that Pickard contract
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:57 PM ET
Barrie will end up signing a deal like ROR did.

5.5 year one. 7.5 year 2.

- Iggysbff


You booshie dink
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 6:57 PM ET
Las Vegas is probably loving that Pickard contract
- westonie


not when they post Varly instead
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 5 @ 7:00 PM ET
Picks will be a protected player from the draft. I doubt Vegas will take varlys contract.

Barrie will get a 2 year deal. Unless the long term deal is reached. Lots of people said they were getting closer, then hit a snag... so I'm still hoping for a long term deal. Grigo I'm sure will get a deal. Probably for 1.2 to 1.5m
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 5 @ 7:20 PM ET
not when they post Varly instead
- DDM-Coga


That is going to be the most interesting thing to watch this season. If the expansion draft were today, I think they'd protect Varly. He's more of a guarantee and they know what they're getting while Picks is a little more of a question mark. The big test will be Picks play when Varly pulls his groin again next year. The injury history is really the only reason I would consider not going with Varly as a starter.

Varly protected- 100% that Picks is taken. Perfect backup for an up and coming team

Picks protected- 60-75% that Varly is taken. There will be so many good goaltenders. If you take Varly he has to be your starter because of the term. It could also be pretty awkward for the team if they decide not to protect Varly and he isn't taken,



romefalls19
Colorado Avalanche
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.26.2009

Jul 5 @ 7:50 PM ET
That is going to be the most interesting thing to watch this season. If the expansion draft were today, I think they'd protect Varly. He's more of a guarantee and they know what they're getting while Picks is a little more of a question mark. The big test will be Picks play when Varly pulls his groin again next year. The injury history is really the only reason I would consider not going with Varly as a starter.

Varly protected- 100% that Picks is taken. Perfect backup for an up and coming team

Picks protected- 60-75% that Varly is taken. There will be so many good goaltenders. If you take Varly he has to be your starter because of the term. It could also be pretty awkward for the team if they decide not to protect Varly and he isn't taken,

- westonie


I honestly don't think they will go after either of the Avs goalies, too much still out there for goalies.
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Jul 5 @ 8:24 PM ET
Picks


First person to offer for Barrie is going to get pistol whipped so hard

- DDM-Coga



Mr.Bobby
New Jersey Devils
Location: If you don't chew Big Red, then **** you.
Joined: 05.26.2016

Jul 5 @ 8:39 PM ET
Picks


First person to offer for Barrie is going to get pistol whipped so hard

- DDM-Coga



Even if the offer is John Merrill?
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 5 @ 9:51 PM ET
I honestly don't think they will go after either of the Avs goalies, too much still out there for goalies.
- romefalls19


I don't see that many teams with 2 solid goalies like the Avs have and most of them will also have better skaters available than Colorado. I myself would be surprised to see Varly and Picks with the team starting next season due to trade or expansion. Either way it's probably a better discussion for another day. So much can change between now and next year.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 5 @ 10:03 PM ET
I don't see that many teams with 2 solid goalies like the Avs have and most of them will also have better skaters available than Colorado. I myself would be surprised to see Varly and Picks with the team starting next season due to trade or expansion. Either way it's probably a better discussion for another day. So much can change between now and next year.
- westonie


Fluery Murray
Bishop Vasilevskiy
Luongo Reimer

There are options for them thats for sure
goavsgo10
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Landeskoging, NY
Joined: 02.14.2010

Jul 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
Fluery Murray
Bishop Vasilevskiy
Luongo Reimer

There are options for them thats for sure

- DDM-Coga

One of Bishop or Vasilevskiy will get plucked.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jul 5 @ 11:17 PM ET
Fluery Murray
Bishop Vasilevskiy
Luongo Reimer

There are options for them thats for sure

- DDM-Coga


I didn't mean to say there are no other options. All 3 of those teams are going to have some really good skaters left that it's going to be hard to pass. Would you rather have Varly and one of Pitts depth players or Fleury and one of Col depth players? I'm too lazy to get names but I think it's safe to say that all 3 of those teams are deeper. I hope I'm wrong though cause I love me some Varly and Picks.
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 6 @ 8:23 AM ET
With arbitration... what kind of deal do you think both players will get?
Dyaciuk
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jul 6 @ 9:47 AM ET
That is going to be the most interesting thing to watch this season. If the expansion draft were today, I think they'd protect Varly. He's more of a guarantee and they know what they're getting while Picks is a little more of a question mark. The big test will be Picks play when Varly pulls his groin again next year. The injury history is really the only reason I would consider not going with Varly as a starter.

Varly protected- 100% that Picks is taken. Perfect backup for an up and coming team

Picks protected- 60-75% that Varly is taken. There will be so many good goaltenders. If you take Varly he has to be your starter because of the term. It could also be pretty awkward for the team if they decide not to protect Varly and he isn't taken,

- westonie


You hit the nail on the head. The salary of Picks means he is gone in an expansion draft regardless of whether he would be a starter or not if he is not protected. Varly has a bad contract hanging over his head and I don't see him being protected or picked up because of the contract. The 2 year deal was to see if Picks can deliver for more than one year. If he can, he becomes the starter even as early as the end of the season, but certainly by next year and Varly will be traded, released, or selected in the expansion draft.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 9:54 AM ET
With arbitration... what kind of deal do you think both players will get?
- Skywalker87


if he goes to arb, I think the will be awarded 6.5m and they will take 2 years for him.
I just hope they can hammer out a 6mx6 deal before hand
jratliff
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jul 6 @ 11:54 AM ET
Based on existing contractual specifics does anybody have a list yet of players who are currently protected from and eligible for the Vegas draft from the Avs?

I know things could change in the next year but based on NM clauses and the other rules I'm guessing it's possible to come up with a preliminary list...
Szela93
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Strathroy, ON
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jul 6 @ 11:58 AM ET
Based on existing contractual specifics does anybody have a list yet of Avs players who are currently protected from and eligible for the Vegas draft from the Avs?

I know things could change in the next year but based on NM clauses and the other rules I'm guessing it's possible to come up with a preliminary list...

- jratliff


I believe they will keep Duchene, Landeskog, Mackinnon, Johnson, Barrie, Beach(NTC), either Picks or Varly. Players like Zadarov, Bigras and Rants will all be covered with there entry level deals
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
I believe they will keep Duchene, Landeskog, Mackinnon, Johnson, Barrie, Beach(NTC), either Picks or Varly. Players like Zadarov, Bigras and Rants will all be covered with there entry level deals
- Szela93

Beau has a no movement clause, I believe ej does too. NTC are not protected from my understanding. Bigras might not need to be protected because he hasn't played two season over a certain amount same with rant
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
I believe they will keep Duchene, Landeskog, Mackinnon, Johnson, Barrie, Beach(NTC), either Picks or Varly. Players like Zadarov, Bigras and Rants will all be covered with there entry level deals
- Szela93


Zads needs to be protected. Bigras and Rants are exempt

Dutch
Mack
Landy
Grigo/Soderberg
EJ (NMC)
Beacuh (NMC)
Barrie
Zads

Varly/Picks

those will be the 2 decisions they will have to make on who to protect over who
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 6 @ 1:24 PM ET
nice hire for the AHL, good work
Skywalker87
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 10.16.2015

Jul 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
Zads needs to be protected. Bigras and Rants are exempt

Dutch
Mack
Landy
Grigo/Soderberg
EJ (NMC)
Beacuh (NMC)
Barrie
Zads

Varly/Picks

those will be the 2 decisions they will have to make on who to protect over who

- DDM-Coga

I'm not sure how players without a contract work with the expansion. I'm hoping they're also protected cause then we would not have to protect zads. Then we could protect
Dutch
Mack
Landy
Soderberg
Comeau
Colburne
Griggs

Ej
Barrie
Beau

Picks

Ime going to assume we would protect Soderberg over grigs just because he's a center, and picks over vary because of contract and I think picks is closer to the starter job and will have a improved d in front of him to help him succeed