James Tanner: Addition by Subtraction How the Coyotes improved by getting rid of two of their top scorers.

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I'm sorry but sam gagner never cracked 50 points whengiven the same opportunity as he will now. The only difference is gagner won't have guys like: hemsky, yakupov, hall, and eberle on his wings. So with lesser talent on his wings and the same opportunity I wouldn't expect more from him other than 15 goals and 25 assists.

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- BlazinMike

He`s good but hopefully he gets a less prominent role this year. I think they`ll set the team back long term if they give AV the most minutes on forward again.
He needs to play behind Hanzal and Gagner, because they need to know what those guys can do with the top minutes.

I'm sorry but sam gagner never cracked 50 points whengiven the same opportunity as he will now. The only difference is gagner won't have guys like: hemsky, yakupov, hall, and eberle on his wings. So with lesser talent on his wings and the same opportunity I wouldn't expect more from him other than 15 goals and 25 assists.
- kessellover69

You`re mistaken. Gagner scored at a 65 point pace during the lockout shortened year and was set to demolish those totals last year when he had his face caved in during the preseason. When he rushed back, he was not himself. He will be fully recovered this year and I expect him to build on his 65 point pace and come in around 70.

Based on his talent and his age, 25, he is a prime breakout candidate.

Also you expect domi to win the calder??
I don't know much about domi but I think if drouin stays healthy he is going to walk away with the calder.

Domi will be a good player down the road but i think his best season will be around 60 points. So if u are expecting him to get 50 points as rookie with very little to play with. Good luck. Honestly you can expect maybe 10 goals and 30 points playing top 6 minutes. He is rookie and very small it will take him time to adjust to speed and size of nhl players

You`re mistaken. Gagner scored at a 65 point pace during the lockout shortened year and was set to demolish those totals last year when he had his face caved in during the preseason. When he rushed back, he was not himself. He will be fully recovered this year and I expect him to build on his 65 point pace and come in around 70.

Based on his talent and his age, 25, he is a prime breakout candidate.
- James_Tanner

I don't know how you can say he was set to demolish those totals. I live in the Edmonton area so I watch almost all of the oilers games. The guy will put up some big games (8 point night) but he isn't the one driving the play. Most of the time that he had 5 points in 5 games Hall and ebs were padding the guys stats. He is a very streaky player. He had a very good lockout year but that's about it. For the offensive gifted players he played with a and the opportunity he had he did didn't do enough to be considered a 60-70 point guy. I see him as a 40 point player this year. The coyotes are going to be relying on him to score and he's not capable of playing top minutes against the teams top defensive pairing like he will be asked to do.

Also you expect domi to win the calder??
I don't know much about domi but I think if drouin stays healthy he is going to walk away with the calder.
- kessellover69

Domi is a monster. He has the drive to be successful like his dad but the talent of a star. The more reports I hear and read about him , the more excited I get. He should never have fallen to 12th and he is gonna be amazing.

Also you expect domi to win the calder??
I don't know much about domi but I think if drouin stays healthy he is going to walk away with the calder.
- kessellover69

Domi will be a good player. I think he will be a candidate for the Calder. 40-50 points is my guess.

Domi will be a good player down the road but i think his best season will be around 60 points. So if u are expecting him to get 50 points as rookie with very little to play with. Good luck. Honestly you can expect maybe 10 goals and 30 points playing top 6 minutes. He is rookie and very small it will take him time to adjust to speed and size of nhl players
- hanleyaj

I don`t think the size of guys in the NHL will matter to Domi. He`s an animal. I find 60 point career high laughable. I think his ceiling is 100 point league leader. You have no idea how good hes going to be. I am not saying he will hit his ceiling, but he is going to be a star.

Domi is a monster. He has the drive to be successful like his dad but the talent of a star. The more reports I hear and read about him , the more excited I get. He should never have fallen to 12th and he is gonna be amazing.
- James_Tanner

Like I said I don't know much about domi. He could be a steal of a pick but I think Drouin right now has to the favorite for the calder

Addition by subtraction... Talking about folding the Coyotes?

All Duckies and Bunnies again I see...

I don`t think the size of guys in the NHL will matter to Domi. He`s an animal. I find 60 point career high laughable. I think his ceiling is 100 point league leader. You have no idea how good hes going to be. I am not saying he will hit his ceiling, but he is going to be a star.
- James_Tanner

The guy never hit 100 points in junior. I don't see how he hits 100 in the NHL. Especially with the limited offensive talent the yotes have.

The guy never hit 100 points in junior. I don't see how he hits 100 in the NHL. Especially with the limited offensive talent the yotes have.
- kessellover69

Junior also has 15 less games played

Junior also has 15 less games played
- JVR_42_PK81

Yes but it is significantly harder to score in the NHL. Sid the kid was the only player to score over 100 points last year. the full season before that malkin was the only one to crack 100 points. the year before that Daniel sedin was the only one to crack 100 points. and I don't think domi will be as good as those three. Steven Stamkos has never eclipsed the 100 point total... I don't think domi will either.

I don`t think the size of guys in the NHL will matter to Domi. He`s an animal. I find 60 point career high laughable. I think his ceiling is 100 point league leader. You have no idea how good hes going to be. I am not saying he will hit his ceiling, but he is going to be a star.
- James_Tanner

Haha u are an idot he will never hit 80 points. Look at the players in nhl who are a point per game player there were only 5 or 6 last season. He is not a top five player in the nhl. He isnt even a top top 20 prospect in the nhl according to (http://insider.espn.go.co...p-100-prospects-index-nhl)
he was ranked #27. So to think he will be that good is crazy. if he becomes 60 point player you should be happy he reached his potential. And size does matter look at the players in nhl, st. louis is only player under 5-10 to get over 60 points.

Yes but it is significantly harder to score in the NHL. Sid the kid was the only player to score over 100 points last year. the full season before that malkin was the only one to crack 100 points. the year before that Daniel sedin was the only one to crack 100 points. and I don't think domi will be as good as those three. Steven Stamkos has never eclipsed the 100 point total... I don't think domi will either.
- kessellover69

I am not saying he will reach 100 points. I think he can be a 70+ point player over his career. He is a really good player. He will be the Thomas Hertl this year.

I am not saying he will reach 100 points. I think he can be a 70+ point player over his career. He is a really good player. He will be the Thomas Hertl this year.
- JVR_42_PK81

In my opinion he might have the same skill set and upside that hertl does but I dont't know how well that will translate this season. Hertl played with thornton, marleau, burns, coture, pavelski etc. Domi will be playing with Hanzus, gagner, doan boedker etc. He's going to get a lot more attention from opposing teams than hertl did which will result in lower point totals

I am not saying he will reach 100 points. I think he can be a 70+ point player over his career. He is a really good player. He will be the Thomas Hertl this year.
- JVR_42_PK81

I am not saying he'll score 100 either, I'm just saying his ceiling is that high. I think it is. He reminds be of Giroux, not exactly in how they play, but as a player who's draft ranking fell due to size. I am sure you would have called anyone an idiot in 2006 if they said Giroux would have been a 100 point player who's one of the leagues best players.

Domi has blazing speed and is a wrecking ball. He also wanted to be drafted first and seems like the guy who will use that as motivation to prove he shoulda been. You don't have to agree with me, it's just my opinion. But I have seen him live a few times and the people who've seen him a lot say he's better than others think.

All Duckies and Bunnies again I see...
- MnGump

I prefer sunshine and lolipops.

I am not saying he'll score 100 either, I'm just saying his ceiling is that high. I think it is. He reminds be of Giroux, not exactly in how they play, but as a player who's draft ranking fell due to size. I am sure you would have called anyone an idiot in 2006 if they said Giroux would have been a 100 point player who's one of the leagues best players.

Domi has blazing speed and is a wrecking ball. He also wanted to be drafted first and seems like the guy who will use that as motivation to prove he shoulda been. You don't have to agree with me, it's just my opinion. But I have seen him live a few times and the people who've seen him a lot say he's better than others think.
- James_Tanner

I'm not denying he's good. Like I said I don't know much about him. Giroux also didn't have to be the guy right away. He had a strong offensive supporting cast in philly. Domi does not have the same offesnsive supporting cast and will be facing the Webers, suters, and doughtys of the league. It's going to be a tough rookie campaign for domi IMO

"His defense cannot possibly be as bad as Rebieiro`s"

Your right of course. Sam Gagner's defense cannot p[ossibly as bad as Rebiro's... Its much much worse. I've followed Rebiero a bit, not much in Pho, but I would generally say his defense is far superior to Gagner's.

The problem with Gagner is that he is a terrible center. Terrible terrible terrible.

He is a below average skater and between that and his lack of defensive awareness he is rarely if ever in position.

He is incredibly weak on his skates and loses most if not all of his battles.

I do not think he will be able to produce offensively without quality linemates and a distinct lack of defensive responsibility.

Toss Gagner on the wing, give him a great #1 center, and a couple of years under Tippet and I think you will eventually have a solid all around player. But your expectations need to be reasonably tempered about Gagner for at least this next year.

He will "most likely" either completely ignore Tippet and put up 50+ points and be minus 25+. Or will listen to Tippet and put up 40 points max and still probably be a little bit minus.

Haha u are an idot he will never hit 80 points. Look at the players in nhl who are a point per game player there were only 5 or 6 last season. He is not a top five player in the nhl. He isnt even a top top 20 prospect in the nhl according to (http://insider.espn.go.co...p-100-prospects-index-nhl)
he was ranked #27. So to think he will be that good is crazy. if he becomes 60 point player you should be happy he reached his potential. And size does matter look at the players in nhl, st. louis is only player under 5-10 to get over 60 points.
- hanleyaj

(citing ESPN in an effort to make somebody else look like an "idot" made me LOL)