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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Jul 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On Metro Division Goaltenders
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 29 @ 1:33 PM ET
I'd be interested to see the results for the latter half of the regular season only.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

Jul 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'd be interested to see the results for the latter half of the regular season only.
- rangerdanger94

Considering the "King's" horrendous start to the season, that doesn't surprise me. I'd bet that's where most of his sub .900 starts came from.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
Along the same, yet unrelated, note, we might as well look at the scoring leaders from mid-December on if we're going to just discount parts of the season.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
I'd be interested to see the results for the latter half of the regular season only.
- rangerdanger94



Why reduce the sample size? The more games you take out, the more you risk you have of having flawed stats based on hot/cold streaks instead of actual ability.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
Along the same, yet unrelated, note, we might as well look at the scoring leaders from mid-December on if we're going to just discount parts of the season.
- jmatchett383



Giroux.


But seriously, 2 points on opening night is worth the same as game 82 so I don't understand that line of thinking.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
Along the same, yet unrelated, note, we might as well look at the scoring leaders from mid-December on if we're going to just discount parts of the season.
- jmatchett383


love this comment, fully agree. Otherwise Josh Bailey would have been standing in a line for arbitration holding his scoring stats from feb on each year and an empty sack for all the cash he was going to get.
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:35 PM ET
I'd be interested to see the results for the latter half of the regular season only.
- rangerdanger94


Im guessing he wants to see it as it will show lundqvist dominating the category.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 2:40 PM ET
SV% is an overrated stat and does not equate for the quality of the shots whatsoever.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 29 @ 2:47 PM ET
Im guessing he wants to see it as it will show lundqvist dominating the category.
- Joel_Eh

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 29 @ 2:58 PM ET
Giroux.


But seriously, 2 points on opening night is worth the same as game 82 so I don't understand that line of thinking.

- Nucker101


I know. That was my point, that you can't hand-pick which games to sample.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jul 29 @ 3:04 PM ET
Todd Cordell: On Metro Division Goaltenders
- Todd.Cordell

Bring on the trolls
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 29 @ 3:07 PM ET
Bring on the trolls
- shvingter88



I DON'T UNDERSTAND FANCY STATS AND ALL OF THESE NUMBERS SO I THINK THEY'RE STUPID DURRRRR.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jul 29 @ 3:09 PM ET
Islanders s% last year was .889. If they had league average of .914% they would have had surrendered 55 less goals. They would have had a positive goal differential, playoff territory for the east/Atlantic.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jul 29 @ 3:26 PM ET
Islanders s% last year was .889. If they had league average of .914% they would have had surrendered 55 less goals. They would have had a positive goal differential, playoff territory for the east/Atlantic.
- Danformo

Both Nabakov and Poulin had 2 of the lowest shot attempt distance averages in the league. Better D would increase that SV% most.
njdevils350
Joined: 06.21.2011

Jul 29 @ 3:34 PM ET
I appreciate the effort, but at the end of the day I don't think the chart says a whole lot.

All the goalies listed are between -.900 and +.910 for about 88-90% of the time. So, you're basically left evaluating the final 10%, which given the sample size, equates to about 4-6 games.

I appreciate the work and the effort, but I don't think there's a lot to discuss here.
CaptCrankypants
New Jersey Devils
Location: None of your business
Joined: 04.27.2014

Jul 29 @ 4:17 PM ET
I appreciate the effort, but at the end of the day I don't think the chart says a whole lot.

All the goalies listed are between -.900 and +.910 for about 88-90% of the time. So, you're basically left evaluating the final 10%, which given the sample size, equates to about 4-6 games.

I appreciate the work and the effort, but I don't think there's a lot to discuss here.

- njdevils350

Well 4-6 games could be 8-12 points, which is a huge difference in the standings.

Plus it's July. Unless you want to read wild speculation about who could be traded and where, or wild speculation about lineup decisions, both of which are probably better off left in the comment sections, I don't know that there's much else to talk about.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:23 PM ET
Why reduce the sample size? The more games you take out, the more you risk you have of having flawed stats based on hot/cold streaks instead of actual ability.
- Nucker101


Because reducing the sample size would make King Hank grade out more favorably, which is far more important to Rangers fans than anything else this chart might show...haven't you been paying attention to the way things work around here?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:30 PM ET
Because reducing the sample size would make King Hank grade out more favorably, which is far more important to Rangers fans than anything else this chart might show...haven't you been paying attention to the way things work around here?
- Emperor Filonius


well sometimes we have to take up the argument that the Rangers would be absolutely nothing without Lundqvist and he is the only reason we have won 6 playoff series the last 3 years blah blah blah

and at the same time we have to argue against people who say he is the most overrated thing on earth and those people usually tend to put "KING" in quotes like that, or even sometimes write the clever word "QUEEN".

So, excuse us for trying to figure out which argument we have to take up at any given point.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jul 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
well sometimes we have to take up the argument that the Rangers would be absolutely nothing without Lundqvist and he is the only reason we have won 6 playoff series the last 3 years blah blah blah

and at the same time we have to argue against people who say he is the most overrated thing on earth and those people usually tend to put "KING" in quotes like that, or even sometimes write the clever word "QUEEN".

So, excuse us for trying to figure out which argument we have to take up at any given point.

- jimbro83


Those insults are bush league. If I were going to disparage him, I'd just call him princess because he has yet to wear a crown...and because princesses are girly...see what I did there?

All juvenile kidding aside, IMHO, I don't think Rangers fans should have to feel like they need to defend Hank any more than Pens fans should have to defend Crosby. the Results speak for themselves. He's the best goalie in the division and I don't know how that could be reasonably argued.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:39 PM ET
Those insults are bush league. If I were going to disparage him, I'd just call him princess because he has yet to wear a crown...and because princesses are girly...see what I did there?

All juvenile kidding aside, IMHO, I don't think Rangers fans should have to feel like they need to defend Hank any more than Pens fans should have to defend Crosby. the Results speak for themselves. He's the best goalie in the division and I don't know how that could be reasonably argued.

- Emperor Filonius


I hear ya, good post
aoh718
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jul 29 @ 4:50 PM ET
Halak didn't even play for the islanders at all lol. When you play for St. Louis the majority of the year it makes life a lot easier.
BDizzlez
New Jersey Devils
Location: Truro, NS
Joined: 08.11.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Those insults are bush league. If I were going to disparage him, I'd just call him princess because he has yet to wear a crown...and because princesses are girly...see what I did there?

All juvenile kidding aside, IMHO, I don't think Rangers fans should have to feel like they need to defend Hank any more than Pens fans should have to defend Crosby. the Results speak for themselves. He's the best goalie in the division and I don't know how that could be reasonably argued.

- Emperor Filonius

the queen and cryby are both overrated plugs
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
the queen and cryby are both overrated plugs
- BDizzlez


so how did the Rangers make it to the finals, their stunning offense?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 29 @ 5:15 PM ET
(frank)ing Cam Ward.
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