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Antilles
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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It's 5, 5.5, 6.5, 7, 7, 7, 7.5.
Haven't seen anything on the NTC/NMC; but Armstrong seldom gives them out, and I don't think you can have one till UFA years anyways, so definitely none in the first 4 years of the contract. |
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digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Detroit, MI Joined: 07.09.2011
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that's pretty much the going rate for an elite D man so blues fans should be very happy with this. |
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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Jeremy Rutherford just tweeted, does include a NTC. |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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Good deal for both sides. Alex could have received more, but little leverage as an RFA. |
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Great deal for both sides. Kids only getting better too |
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It's 5, 5.5, 6.5, 7, 7, 7, 7.5.
Haven't seen anything on the NTC/NMC; but Armstrong seldom gives them out, and I don't think you can have one till UFA years anyways, so definitely none in the first 4 years of the contract. - Antilles
Seems a lot like what we talked about yesterday....we are so smart! Who knew JR read HockeyBuzz?! |
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Probably a million per year too high, but I'm guessing they're both happy with the deal. |
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bsmith
St Louis Blues |
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Location: high ridge, MO Joined: 07.19.2013
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the no-trade is only for the last 3 years. |
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Antilles
St Louis Blues |
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Joined: 10.17.2008
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the no-trade is only for the last 3 years. - bsmith
It activates on his 27th birthday. Part of the CBA, can't have a NTC until you are eligible to be a UFA. |
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poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337 Joined: 09.12.2009
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good deal, when the 7s per start kicking in, cap will be up quite a bit |
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TheLeafsInsider
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Choke Central, ON Joined: 03.30.2011
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Probably a million per year too high, but I'm guessing they're both happy with the deal. - LeftCoaster
It's not honestly, already a number one d man and most agree could easily be regarded as an elite one. 6.5 is more then reasonable, 5.5 would be extremely cheap. |
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Blue Clam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 07.16.2009
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It's not honestly, already a number one d man and most agree could easily be regarded as an elite one. 6.5 is more then reasonable, 5.5 would be extremely cheap. - TheLeafsInsider
6.5 assumes modest improvement |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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It's not honestly, already a number one d man and most agree could easily be regarded as an elite one. 6.5 is more then reasonable, 5.5 would be extremely cheap. - TheLeafsInsider
I don't see it that way, is he a very good young player, yes absolutely! In his three years in the league he's averaging around 50 points, last year being pro-rated of course. He's a number one PP quarterback, he's a great skater, he makes good decisions with the puck, he uses body position well although he's not physical, etc etc...all of the above.
But...when you look at the other 50 point players around about his skill level, the numbers really vary. Last season he had 24 points, so did Francois Beauchemin, Dan Hamhuis & Oliver Ekman-Larsson, all good players but nowhere near $6.5 million guys. And yes I know he's more offensively gifted than those players, but each is good in their own right at what they do.
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I don't see it that way, is he a very good young player, yes absolutely! In his three years in the league he's averaging around 50 points, last year being pro-rated of course. He's a number one PP quarterback, he's a great skater, he makes good decisions with the puck, he uses body position well although he's not physical, etc etc...all of the above.
But...when you look at the other 50 point players around about his skill level, the numbers really vary. Last season he had 24 points, so did Francois Beauchemin, Dan Hamhuis & Oliver Ekman-Larsson, all good players but nowhere near $6.5 million guys. And yes I know he's more offensively gifted than those players, but each is good in their own right at what they do. - LeftCoaster
The difference between the guys that you mentioned (excepting Ekman-Larsson) is that they are old. Petro still hasn't hit his talent ceiling. If you compare Petro's game right now to where Lidstrom was after three seasons in the NHL, the comparison is really uncanny. Lidstrom averaged 52 pts in his first three years. He wasn't particularly physical, but he was always in the right place at the right time. Additionally, he made smart decisions with the puck and even created big plays with stretch passes, etc.
Petro is on a similar learning curve.
Good luck to you guys this year. It's going to be interesting to see how the year goes with Torts up there... |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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The difference between the guys that you mentioned (excepting Ekman-Larsson) is that they are old. Petro still hasn't hit his talent ceiling. If you compare Petro's game right now to where Lidstrom was after three seasons in the NHL, the comparison is really uncanny. Lidstrom averaged 52 pts in his first three years. He wasn't particularly physical, but he was always in the right place at the right time. Additionally, he made smart decisions with the puck and even created big plays with stretch passes, etc.
Petro is on a similar learning curve.
Good luck to you guys this year. It's going to be interesting to see how the year goes with Torts up there... - eggsegan
It should be a fun year, the players seem really fired up about the changes. Western Conference should be a good one this year. Blues have a good young team, if they had a #1 center they'd be dangerous...or rather more dangerous than they already are! |
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All Blues
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Brooklyn, NY Joined: 03.06.2008
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It should be a fun year, the players seem really fired up about the changes. Western Conference should be a good one this year. Blues have a good young team, if they had a #1 center they'd be dangerous...or rather more dangerous than they already are! - LeftCoaster
Get ready for Tortorella to play the Sedins for 32min a night & then throw them rip them in the media for not being able to perform in the 3rd period. That guy is a joke of a coach. Super emotional, total idiot with the media, and as arrogant as they get. SOOOO glad he's not in NYC anymore. I give him 1.5 seasons before he gets the axe. Canucks could have done better. |
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