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IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Guest Blog their thoughts and words, not mine
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

May 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
I cant remember but did they put in the new cba that you can trade for cap space ? if so cant they trade a 2 round pick or something for some cap space ? I am not sure though
Oilers4Life14
Detroit Red Wings
Location: ON
Joined: 03.06.2013

May 11 @ 9:39 AM ET
Rebuild!
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
Nice policy of sharing the soapbox! (Some of these guys would really benefit from some soap.)
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 11 @ 9:43 AM ET
I cant remember but did they put in the new cba that you can trade for cap space ? if so cant they trade a 2 round pick or something for some cap space ? I am not sure though
- blizzzard

Not quite.

If you trade a guy, you can retain some of the cap space.

So that's not going to help the Canucks.
Edit: that should read "cap hit" not "cap space."

I'm still working on my first cup of coffee.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

May 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
Not quite.

If you trade a guy, you can retain some of the cap space.

So that's not going to help the Canucks.

- Atomic Wedgie

Ah I see thanks
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

May 11 @ 9:48 AM ET
Not quite.

If you trade a guy, you can retain some of the cap space.

So that's not going to help the Canucks.

- Atomic Wedgie



Actually, the opposite is true. For example, they can easily trade Booth for a player and retain 1 million of his contract. This hurts in the short run but it does not use a buyout.

There will be quite a few of these trades this summer.


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How do we know Roy is not resigning?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 11 @ 9:49 AM ET
Lost me at the idea we should keep Raymond the kid can't stay on his skates. drives me up the wall.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 11 @ 9:59 AM ET
How are you getting rid of Luongo with no money coming back? Is this a buy-out as well? If so, that's asking ownership to put up a lot of cash to ice what will probably be a pretty poopty team with some older players as its core.

I can't see Gillis surviving this.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

May 11 @ 10:00 AM ET
How are you getting rid of Luongo with no money coming back? Is this a buy-out as well? If so, that's asking ownership to put up a lot of cash to ice what will probably be a pretty poopty team with some older players as its core.

I can't see Gillis surviving this.

- Canada Cup

Unless they settle for 1 prospect or something who will only count like 600,000 but you have a good point
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 11 @ 10:00 AM ET
How are you getting rid of Luongo with no money coming back? Is this a buy-out as well? If so, that's asking ownership to put up a lot of cash to ice what will probably be a pretty poopty team with some older players as its core.

I can't see Gillis surviving this.

- Canada Cup

The Lou deal could very well be his demise.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
The Lou deal could very well be his demise.
- thundachunk



That buy-out alone would cost $27m, wouldn't it.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 11 @ 10:09 AM ET
How are you getting rid of Luongo with no money coming back? Is this a buy-out as well? If so, that's asking ownership to put up a lot of cash to ice what will probably be a pretty poopty team with some older players as its core.

I can't see Gillis surviving this.

- Canada Cup

Waivers.

Cost the 'nucks nothing, and one GM will be stupid enough to bite.
cudd8
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kingston, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 11 @ 10:27 AM ET
No way gaunce is ready to play in the NHL next year
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 11 @ 10:44 AM ET
That buy-out alone would cost $27m, wouldn't it.
- Canada Cup

Francesco isn't just gonna eat 27m. If Gillis doesn't have a plan i.e.; a buyer even if we aren't gonna get something back or have to eat a bit of contract he may not make it to the draft table because I bet money a business man like Francesco Aquilini has a back up plan.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

May 11 @ 10:53 AM ET
No way gaunce is ready to play in the NHL next year
- cudd8

They said the same thing last year about Frankie
nellie04
Joined: 02.26.2013

May 11 @ 10:56 AM ET
Ian Esplen: Guest Blog
their thoughts and words, not mine

- IanEsplen

Need a complete sweeping of coach and GM. I do not envy a new GM coming into this mess with cap going down. But honestly do u want Gillis still being decision maker on this team? Bobby Loo showed nothing but class this year. For that his reward should be to stay and peddle CS. Owner not spending big bucks for compliance buyout and any trade would result in Nucks retaining a fair bit of Loo's cap hit. More importantly cut ties with AV and MG and get fresh ideas coming from GM's chair.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

May 11 @ 10:58 AM ET
Waivers.

Cost the 'nucks nothing, and one GM will be stupid enough to bite.

- Atomic Wedgie


And if no one does the money is still on their books...big gamble

In the end the blog assumes that Luongo will get moved and no salary will come back, which has a slim chance of occurring
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

May 11 @ 11:00 AM ET
or how about trading the twins, it's extreme but it can instantty solve your problem with the return.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 11 @ 11:03 AM ET
Waivers.

Cost the 'nucks nothing, and one GM will be stupid enough to bite.

- Atomic Wedgie


If it were only that simple. I don't think players with NTC/NMC can be placed on waivers.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 11:08 AM ET
I'm tellin ya...Luongo...will be the starting goaltender next season because (A) he's still very good & (B) his contract makes it very difficult to trade him. Although guys like Zetterberg and Hossa have similar contracts, they're not trying to trade them...but I digress.

This will, hopefully, be one of the busiest summers in Canucks history. Lapierre, Raymond, Malhotra, Roy, Sestito, Pinizzotto, Booth, Barker and Ballard will all be gone from this group. Why bring back what hasn't worked?

A combination of Higgins, Hansen, Edler, Kesler, Bieksa & Schneider could and should all be used as trade bait to change this team!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
If it were only that simple. I don't think players with NTC/NMC can be placed on waivers.
- As_I_See_It

Players with a NTC can be placed on waivers, which Lu has. He does not have a full NMC, which cannot be waived without his permission...see Mike Komisarek.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
And if no one does the money is still on their books...big gamble

In the end the blog assumes that Luongo will get moved and no salary will come back, which has a slim chance of occurring

- OilHorse

Someone, IMO, would take him on waivers, he's too good to just get for nothing. But my opinion is just like yours, we don't actually know...so neither of us is wrong or right.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 11:13 AM ET
or how about trading the twins, it's extreme but it can instantty solve your problem with the return.
- Alexzanki

Never happen, they are the best players on the team, makes zero sense to trade them! They will and should retire as Canucks.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
To the best of my knowledge, the Canucks only have 30 players under contract for next season...this is going to be an interesting summer.
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