Colin Dambrauskas: Jarome Iginla To be Traded Part 2: Boston Bruins

He would fit well in Boston.

Colin Dambrauskas: Jarome Iginla To be Traded Part 2: Boston Bruins
- Colin Dambrauskas

I was on the the Leaf thread and the Hab thread having fun and then you do this to me. You, shell. Fish. Bastard.

I am just going to re-post what I put in your SJS thread and be done commenting on these 'rumors'

Call me selfish, I don't want to cheer for a bottom feeder the next 3-5 yrs. Sorry, it is not entertaining to cheer for forced failure. Now if they tried their best, and hit rock bottom anyways? So be it, at least they didn't throw in the towel.

Ppl forget the ticker in the mid to late 90's in the paper, about hitting the 12 or 14k season ticket level, else the team moves. Dark days. Every goalie between Vernon and Kipper? bad times.

If they were going to trade, they passed the line of great return 2 yrs ago. At this pt, they both deserve to retire Flames, and Feaster is at least trying to keep them entertaining. Have the Oilers become interesting yet?

I just wish the daily debate would end.
- FLflames34

See if the Bruins will give you 2 firsts and a 2nd for Iggy lol jk

I am just going to re-post what I put in your SJS thread and be done commenting on these 'rumors'
- FLflames34

Ive said it many times...

Flames fans slag the Oilers, but the Oilers games have been more fun to go to than the Flames games over the past few years. So you can keep trying to make yourself feel better by knocking someone else down, but it doesnt change the fact that the Flames are no better. If they dont trade Iggy? Then they will pay for it in the long term.

I am just going to re-post what I put in your SJS thread and be done commenting on these 'rumors'
- FLflames34

Dude! Your pills man. This is not the same as the Young Guns era. We had to make crap trades because the dollar was worth 2/3rds the US dollar & we had to trade off our stars. There was no cap & most Canadian teams were screwed. How the heck do you think we got franchse playrs like Iggy & Regehr, by trading Nieuy & Fleury. I think Iggy knows we aint winning a cup soon & give the guy a break, everyone knows we need a huge injection of youth not only in the Flames lineup but in Abbottsford too. Dutter (frank)ed us sooo bad, we really dont have a choice.

Colin you are a bad bad boy. Hit mongering after Eks goofy rumour post. Short of sweeping Anaheim & LA twice, this thing is probably going to get serious. I am really hoping Iggy does a trade and extend & basically has a deal in place with whoever he wants to go to. If thats the case, the return will be be much greater. As is, I'm thinking Spooner, a 1st & Hamilton if we throw in Iggy + something, maybe Max Reinhart.

I think keeping Kipper is huge & I think Kipper would play 2-3 more years if he can stay in Calgary & I think Kipper & Ramo sharing the goaltending would give us the best 1-2 net combo we havent seen in years while we wait for Brossoit & Gilles. With that kind of goaltending, fast tracking some youth in our top 6 could result in a rebound similar to Ottawa & possibly Montreal. Look what goaltending has done for those teams while they rebuild.

I was on the the Leaf thread and the Hab thread having fun and then you do this to me. You, shell. Fish. Bastard.
- whipper334

He's nothing but a hit hooker hanging around blogger corner.

Ive said it many times...

Flames fans slag the Oilers, but the Oilers games have been more fun to go to than the Flames games over the past few years. So you can keep trying to make yourself feel better by knocking someone else down, but it doesnt change the fact that the Flames are no better. If they dont trade Iggy? Then they will pay for it in the long term.
- Iggysbff

Dude I was starting to come around and then you say the most fcking ridiculous crap.

I am just going to re-post what I put in your SJS thread and be done commenting on these 'rumors'
- FLflames34

I dont get the mentality that by trading Iginla the Flames are throwing in the proverbial towel. If, and I stress if, they trade Iginla it would be to improve their roster, not weaken it.

There will be no "Iginla for draft picks" trades. Yes Iginla is a very large part of the Flames roster and potential success, but moving him does not and should not mean the Flames will suddenly begin to tank. He is just one man...this is a team.

I dont get the mentality that by trading Iginla the Flames are throwing in the proverbial towel. If, and I stress if, they trade Iginla it would be to improve their roster, not weaken it.

There will be no "Iginla for draft picks" trades. Yes Iginla is a very large part of the Flames roster and potential success, but moving him does not and should not mean the Flames will suddenly begin to tank. He is just one man...this is a team.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Not just one man.....he is the leader of this team, they would miss him so much. Would they tank? Not so sure, but they are not as good as team without him

Dude! Your pills man. This is not the same as the Young Guns era. We had to make crap trades because the dollar was worth 2/3rds the US dollar & we had to trade off our stars. There was no cap & most Canadian teams were screwed. How the heck do you think we got franchse playrs like Iggy & Regehr, by trading Nieuy & Fleury. I think Iggy knows we aint winning a cup soon & give the guy a break, everyone knows we need a huge injection of youth not only in the Flames lineup but in Abbottsford too. Dutter (frank)ed us sooo bad, we really dont have a choice.

Colin you are a bad bad boy. Hit mongering after Eks goofy rumour post. Short of sweeping Anaheim & LA twice, this thing is probably going to get serious. I am really hoping Iggy does a trade and extend & basically has a deal in place with whoever he wants to go to. If thats the case, the return will be be much greater. As is, I'm thinking Spooner, a 1st & Hamilton if we throw in Iggy + something, maybe Max Reinhart.

I think keeping Kipper is huge & I think Kipper would play 2-3 more years if he can stay in Calgary & I think Kipper & Ramo sharing the goaltending would give us the best 1-2 net combo we havent seen in years while we wait for Brossoit & Gilles. With that kind of goaltending, fast tracking some youth in our top 6 could result in a rebound similar to Ottawa & possibly Montreal. Look what goaltending has done for those teams while they rebuild.
- Kevin R

Common now...my job is to write about the team. I thought the blog was a fair assessment of the possible trade situation. TSN, ESPN, and Yahoo have been discussing the Bruins showing interest in Iginla, thought I'd chime in.

I dont get the mentality that by trading Iginla the Flames are throwing in the proverbial towel. If, and I stress if, they trade Iginla it would be to improve their roster, not weaken it.

There will be no "Iginla for draft picks" trades. Yes Iginla is a very large part of the Flames roster and potential success, but moving him does not and should not mean the Flames will suddenly begin to tank. He is just one man...this is a team.
- Colin Dambrauskas

As Kevin said, if I was forced to trade one or the other, I'd trade Iginla. However, they should have traded him to Boston when Seguin went #2 in a package, now it is too late. And any trade, of your 500 plus scorer who can still make a difference most nights, will weaken you short term. No ifs ands or buts.
Win 2 of 3 in Cali and all this talk will quiet down. As I hope it does. I want them both to stay. And Iggys return, at best, is a high/mid pick, and a 3rd liner and second-tier prospect. That is it imo. Not worth trading your franchise leader.

I bet, if they go on a run, he would even sign a 5/5/4/3.5 retirement contract with Calgary in the offseason.

Dude I was starting to come around and then you say the most fcking ridiculous crap.
- whipper334

Like what?

I was on the the Leaf thread and the Hab thread having fun and then you do this to me. You, shell. Fish. Bastard.
- whipper334

They actually put me up to it!

As Kevin said, if I was forced to trade one or the other, I'd trade Iginla. However, they should have traded him to Boston when Seguin went #2 in a package, now it is too late. And any trade, of your 500 plus scorer who can still make a difference most nights, will weaken you short term. No ifs ands or buts.
Win 2 of 3 in Cali and all this talk will quiet down. As I hope it does. I want them both to stay. And Iggys return, at best, is a high/mid pick, and a 3rd liner and second-tier prospect. That is it imo. Not worth trading your franchise leader.

I bet, if they go on a run, he would even sign a 5/5/4/3.5 retirement contract with Calgary in the offseason.
- FLflames34

Oh, no doubt the team will feel him being moved immediately, but the point is the team dosnt collapse because of it. A lot of the success we have seen from this team so far has been from their secondary guys, from the defensive systems, and from guys like Stajan who are starting to emerge.

The team still has guys like Backlund about to make a comeback which will certainly boost production. Moving Iginla would be nothing more than an attempt to strengthen their club with a longer term focus.

Since this is supposedly a rumor site, I want Teddy Purcell on the Flames.
Assuming they become sellers, would Steve Y take a 2013 4th, 2014 3rd, Stepniak and Irving?

Since this is supposedly a rumor site, I want Teddy Purcell on the Flames.
Assuming they become sellers, would Steve Y take a 2014 3rd, Stepniak and Irving?
- FLflames34

Dont see the Flames becoming "sellers". Sure they may make a few moves, one perhaps quite large, but they dont become sellers. Don't see it with Feaster in charge.

Dont see the Flames becoming "sellers". Sure they may make a few moves, one perhaps quite large, but they dont become sellers. Don't see it with Feaster in charge.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I was saying if TB becomes sellers. A transition from my opinion that Iggy will not be traded and will be re-signed.
So, having said that, I want Purcell. Does a 3rd, 4th, Irving and Stepniak get it done?

I was saying if TB becomes sellers. A transition from my opinion that Iggy will not be traded and will be re-signed.
So, having said that, I want Purcell. Does a 3rd, 4th, Irving and Stepniak get it done?
- FLflames34

Oh ok I gotcha. Irving's value is quite low, imo. Stempniak has a lot to offer to a team needing that veteran presence, not so sure that team would be TB. Purcell is still younger and around a 60pt guy. Dont see Stevie Y being too interested in that package.

Oh ok I gotcha. Irving's value is quite low, imo. Stempniak has a lot to offer to a team needing that veteran presence, not so sure that team would be TB. Purcell is still younger and around a 60pt guy. Dont see Stevie Y being too interested in that package.
- Colin Dambrauskas

Might be crazy, but how about straight up for Backlund?
Purcell is money, clutch in a possible playoff run, and has a very decent ceiling while still young. I mean, just look at his stat line on TB's run 2 yrs ago. 17 pts in 18 games.

To make it work, they'd have to take Babchuk's expiring and maybe give a 5th back to Calgary.

Might be crazy, but how about straight up for Backlund?
Purcell is money, clutch in a possible playoff run, and has a very decent ceiling while still young. I mean, just look at his stat line on TB's run 2 yrs ago. 17 pts in 18 games.

To make it work, they'd have to take Babchuk's expiring and maybe give a 5th back to Calgary.
- FLflames34

Not that they carry similar worth, but Calgary couldnt afford to move a center for a winger. The Flames have some strengths on the wings and are far too weak down the middle to move a prospect like Backlund. Books still out on him too...not entirely sure what he has to offer.

Might be crazy, but how about straight up for Backlund?
Purcell is money, clutch in a possible playoff run, and has a very decent ceiling while still young. I mean, just look at his stat line on TB's run 2 yrs ago. 17 pts in 18 games.

To make it work, they'd have to take Babchuk's expiring and maybe give a 5th back to Calgary.
- FLflames34

Seriously go to bed.

Not that they carry similar worth, but Calgary couldnt afford to move a center for a winger. The Flames have some strengths on the wings and are far too weak down the middle to move a prospect like Backlund. Books still out on him too...not entirely sure what he has to offer.
- Colin Dambrauskas

I think, assuming he gets in the lineup in the next week or 10 days, has a chance to really showcase. Until the injury, he was flying and actually seemed like someone who could be a (gasp) power forward. As for trading a C for a RW, I think Cervenka could be the deal deal. He has to prove it in March, when secondary scoring seperates the winners and the losers. If he does, he and Stajan can potentially line up as the 1-2 C's next yr (don't laugh) making Backlund expendable for a Purcell. If he is a man on fire...who knows. I just know that Purcell is #1 on the obtainable wish list in my books.

Oddly enough, I have no worries on the D. At all. I think it is good enough, and Butler is actually playing like a solid #5. Brodie is a stud. Gio needs to pick up his game just a tad, but he will.

Someone suggested it somewhere else, but getting Flip out of Detroit would be interesting too. What would it take, considering it is two teams both trading to get in the playoffs and not sellers?

Just like being a contender, in order to start a rebuild you need to have pieces in place. The most major piece is organizational depth. That is to ensure a quicker rebuild since there would already be half developed picks in place. For example In the Nash trade Dubinsky, and anismov will never be top liners, if the rangers actually played to expectations they would be first in the conference which is a late first, and despite everyone saying so I don't see this draft very deep with talent. Long story short if the rangers were playing like they're supposed to the jackets wouldn't have anything mor then a 2nd liner at best. The best piece they got for him was er icon because he is very far in his development and could be a top 4 some day. First liners are worth more then top four dman

From what I've been reading calgarys return is a decent prospect but nothing special and a 1st round pick which is late. I'm not saying dont trade iginla though.

What I'm actually saying a rebuild isn't coming soon, but gradually. I don't even know if the team knows this but the organizational depth just isn't there. There are no guys that are developed yet to start there NHL careers next year if the flames were to have a firesale.

At the draft last year Calgary could have selected a guy that could be in the league next year and maybe be a major producer. Instead they took a guy who they think could be the best player in the draft 5-6 years from know. If that pick works out he will be developing and breaking into the league with calgarys mid round selections from now along with the high picks they will have from (wait for it) a rebuild.

Also notice how most of the high paid contracts on the team end around the same time. That right there is cap space for all the developed prospects.

The problem is feaster is running this team like he's going to be around for the next 10 years meanwhile at this rate he'll be gone within the next 2 years. When that happens a new gm comes in with a different mentality and god knows what will happen to team.

If you don't feel like reading all of the above long story short the flames are managing their team towards a rebuild, just not in th immediate future will there be a huge tear down.