From 2006-2009, with 4 1st rounds pick in the 20-30 range you could get:
2006 - 22nd Giroux
2007 - 26th Perron
2008 - 22nd Eberle
2009 - 24th Johansson or 25th Caron

Weber for Giroux, Perron, Eberle + Johansson or Caron

You still think it's not that great at all?
- chipiii

WOW... hindsight is 20/20 eh?

A couple picks will probably be in the 26-30 range... if not all being in the 25-30 range. So that would leave Perron.

With those 4 first round picks... odds would tell us that maybe 1 out of the 4 would be an impact player... or even a consistent roster player. Its a terrible deal for Nashville.

I believe Nashville either matches... and trades him the following year for a kings ransom or like the other poster said.. does a side deal like with Gratton and offer a couple legitimate pospects like Couts... Vorachek... Read... etc.

Nashville would be crazy to take those 4 1sts when they won't end up being picks low enough to justify it.

Yeah that's what I was saying. Saw Dreger tweeting about it.
- GuyLaDouche

No. Dreger is wrong.

Per CBA Article 10, Section 10.4 (partial paste): "...on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms (as defined in Section 10.3(e) hereof) of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five), based on the following scale..."

It would be four 1st rd picks and each would have to be the Philly's own pick, not one they acquired from another team.

But who cares. I don't want the crap-shoot picks.

The Flyers just Nashville a favor...and Weber a disservice in my opinion. The offer was WAY lower than I would have imagined. The Preds have alot of options now. They can match and get Weber for a pretty good price. Let him go for the picks or sign and trade for a big return. You have to know that alot of teams are loving that salary for Weber.

Sure the contract is way too long, but what stars aren't getting these ridiculous deals at this point?

I have an inkling more is at work here than Philly just trying to steal away Weber. Philly and Nash have a long history of swapping players. I doubt their GM did this to break that relationship.
- PoileRulezzzYo

Depends if theres a ntc in there, if there is he would screw the preds same way nash has with only a few teams in the mix

option 4 is the NHL nullifies the deal and fines the flyers, because this contract is clearly SALARY CAP CIRCUMVENTION!
- Rockhead_37

Actually I don't think so. The most he makes in a year (salary-wise) is 6M and the least is 1M. That's not that big of a difference. This contract is inflated by signing bonuses and that's why it looks like circumvention.

Unless I have it wrong, the average annual salary determines the compensation.

$1,110,249 or below - No Compensation
Over $1,110,249 to $1,682,194 - Third-round pick
Over $1,682,194 to $3,364,391 - Second-round pick
Over $3,364,391 to $5,046,585 - First- and third round-picks
Over $5,046,585 to $6,728,781 - First-, second- and third-round picks
Over $6,728,781 To $8,410,976 - Two first-round picks, second-round pick and third-round pick
Over $8,410,976 - Four first-round picks

Wouldn't the Weber offer sheet put him at just under 8m per year?
Losing Weber=2 firsts, a second, and a third round pick?
- CTGroves

If you divide by 5, which is what the CBA dictates, the average per year will be 20 million. You divide by the lesser of 5, or the number of years in the contract.

If you divide by 5, which is what the CBA dictates, the average per year will be 20 million. You divide by the lesser of 5, or the number of years in the contract.
- p_zub

Correct. (As I quoted above from CBA.) A lot of people are mis-interpreting the way the draft pick compensation works. It is kind of obscure like most of the CBA (and legal contracts in general...)

Sign him for one year then TRADE him... I could never support signing a defensive player to 14 yrs...
He's not worth it

No. Dreger is wrong.

Per CBA Article 10, Section 10.4 (partial paste): "...on the average annual value of the compensation contained in the Principal Terms (as defined in Section 10.3(e) hereof) of the New Club's Offer Sheet (determined by dividing such compensation by the lesser of the number of years of the Offer Sheet or five), based on the following scale..."

It would be four 1st rd picks and each would have to be the Philly's own pick, not one they acquired from another team.

But who cares. I don't want the crap-shoot picks.
- blueline

Thanks for the knowledge. I didn't know that was how the compensation figure worked.

Thanks for the knowledge. I didn't know that was how the compensation figure worked.
- CTGroves

It's obscure stuff for sure - certainly not something I have a desire to keep in memory. (I looked up the relevant clause in the CBA .) At any rate, I imagine it will change considerably or be mostly gone with the new NHLPA/NHL agreement.

Besides, I don't want to see the return draft picks in place of Weber. Leave that bad-odds lottery behind!

E Freidmann said it best: If Nas doesn't match how will they get to the Cap floor? They will match because they have no choice and they have a GM who still hasn't lived down his S Stevens mistake. Hopefully people remember this when the owners again whine about how they're all going broke. If I'm Fehr I walk into the meeting, drop a picture of Weber in a Phi uniform, tell everybody to F off and leave.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...a-is-a-destination-place/

So i take it Pronger will never play again
- ky678468

I think it's a pretty good assumption

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/19/webers-agent-philadelphia-is-a-destination-place/
- Just5

Well that sucks. For us anyway.

68 million of the 100 million is paid thru signing bonus which will not be subject to any rollback that happens in the new CBA. that's rough for a small market team.

perhaps the Preds won't match and will trade some of the picks back for players ala the Chris Gratton/Flyers/Tampa deal years ago.
- nastyflyergirl

Agree but what do flyers fan think is for?
Schenn/Coutourier, Reed, Simmons and Bourdon?

I think it's a pretty good assumption
- bodiva88

You just have to hope he wont retire

Sign him for one year then TRADE him... I could never support signing a defensive player to 14 yrs...
He's not worth it
- PREDX1

That will NEVER happen. The Predators are not going to pay him $27 million dollars over the next calendar year only to turn around and trade him.

$27 million is 16.5% of the value of the Nashville Predators ($163 million). Not happening.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/19/webers-agent-philadelphia-is-a-destination-place/
- Just5

Boy polie screwed the pooch on this one..

Boy polie screwed the pooch on this one..
- PREDX1

Let the rebuild in Nashville begin.

That will NEVER happen. The Predators are not going to pay him $27 million dollars over the next calendar year only to turn around and trade him.

$27 million is 16.5% of the value of the Nashville Predators ($163 million). Not happening.
- SteveTambellini

Oh I didn't catch that NSH had to pay him 27 the first year. Ouch, let me him go to philly and let them pay him that much.
TAKE HIM PHILLY!!!

You ys just have to hope hewont retire
- Bieksa#3

No reason to think he will. He apparently was involved in the preparation of the offer sheet. So at least he's feeling engaged with the team in some capacity. I don't believe he's even cleared to drive yet, though. It's really sad.

If I'm reading that right, does that mean he's paid $14M in the first season? I'm not sure I could see Nashville holding onto him for a year if that's what the price is going to be.

Sign him for one year then TRADE him... I could never support signing a defensive player to 14 yrs...
He's not worth it
- PREDX1

You need to sign him, and then put him up for auction at the end of next season. There would be a few teams who have cash and wouldn't mind having Weber locked up for 13 more years. If I'm Nashville, Weber only leaves town on your terms, not Philly's.

You need to sign him, and then put him up for auction at the end of next season. There would be a few teams who have cash and wouldn't mind having Weber locked up for 13 more years. If I'm Nashville, Weber only leaves town on your terms, not Philly's.
- p_zub

I agree philly has to way overpay. If Nash loses Weber like this the franchise is history. Which is sad because they were building a fan base.

If I'm reading that right, does that mean he's paid $14M in the first season? I'm not sure I could see Nashville holding onto him for a year if that's what the price is going to be.
- Jeffmt

13 mil will be due as soon as the contract is matched. $1 million salary over the course of next season. Then another $13 mil due on July 1, 2013. And he wouldn't be able to be traded until 1 year after contract is matched.

What a cluster(frank)!