To that point I think he'd get better development in a pro organization rather than a college (no disrespect to UNH).



You can always go back to school. He didn't graduate anyway.
- Scoob

Frat parties

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: JVR and the Curse of Potential
- bmeltzer

My offseason moves..... in NHL 12. I traded JVR and a 1st to Nashville for Suter, then traded Briere to the Ducks for a 1st. Signed Hal Gil via free agency.

Currently I'm up against the cap and have lost the 1st 2 games of the season via shootout. I have 3 of my defensemen turning 38. It's bad. I may have to fire myself.

Funmaster
- funmaster18

remember that brief exchange about outlandish and riddiculous trade scenarios... (whispers) it's already starting....

To that point I think he'd get better development in a pro organization rather than a college (no disrespect to UNH).



You can always go back to school. He didn't graduate anyway.
- Scoob

It's not where you've been, it's where you're going.

This is all fun and all......let's trade away our talent but did anyone on this site last year talk about getting rid of JVR.......NO !!! And now with a wasted season due to injury everyone wants to ship him out so we can replace with whom? Get better defense or resign jags.....count me out....he's got size, he's strong, and has speed. That combo is hard to find.....he can be an elite player....better than a lot of other power forwards b/c of his speed....so stop with the trading of JVR and look for ways to trade for a goalie.

Frat parties
- phi1671

The idea of him probably having a sweetheart he didn't want to part ways with was creeping into my head. A buddy of mine's kid turned down a full boat ride to virginia tech to stay local with his girlfriend. ugh youth is wasted on the young

remember that brief exchange about outlandish and riddiculous trade scenarios... (whispers) it's already starting....
- JoeRussomanno

Our destiny, it is.

This is all fun and all......let's trade away our talent but did anyone on this site last year talk about getting rid of JVR.......NO !!! And now with a wasted season due to injury everyone wants to ship him out so we can replace with whom? Get better defense or resign jags.....count me out....he's got size, he's strong, and has speed. That combo is hard to find.....he can be an elite player....better than a lot of other power forwards b/c of his speed....so stop with the trading of JVR and look for ways to trade for a goalie.
- huks99

I have to interrupt you sir, but there is an equal amount of us who oppose trading JVR unless it reaps significant value.

remember that brief exchange about outlandish and riddiculous trade scenarios... (whispers) it's already starting....
- JoeRussomanno

as it begins we will enter the court room any minutes now.

6'3" & 220, who plays as if 5'6" 170.

I have no doubt that Giroux, Talbot, Hartnell & Simmonds would skate head first through a brick wall if that's what it took to win. Can't say the same with JVR. He's content and comfortable playing the perimeter and avoiding any meaningful contact. Been that way since day 1.

How the hell do you need to be prodded to use every bit of size and speed to create chaos? By this stage of the game, you either have it or you don't, and he clearly doesn't have it. Some things you can't teach.

No doubt a 65-70 point player if paired with Giroux. A Hartnell with more skill minus the physicality and nastiness. If not on the score sheet, invisible. If Holmgren is fine with this, so be it. But for the 2nd overall pick & skill set/package, a major disappointment.
- LW2530

There's a long history of bigger players-LeClair, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier to name 3-that take longer to develop and become big time NHL players.

As far as not being able to teach things, a lot depends on the developmental process. JvR was quite likely the best player in every league he played in, just because of his natural talent. Regardless of the analysis from the arm chair, that's something that has to be learned. Guys like the ones I mentioned before had to learn it, and now JvR has to learn it.

It's stupid to give up on a 22 year old with JvR's natural ability, just because he's not as physical as some would like. The same knocks that JvR has now, John LeClair had as a 22 year old-and he didn't manage to put up half the numbers JvR has at the same age.

Frat parties
- phi1671

Again he made a mistake then. Two words: Richards Carter.

Our destiny, it is.
- funmaster18

The idea of him probably having a sweetheart he didn't want to part ways with was creeping into my head. A buddy of mine's kid turned down a full boat ride to virginia tech to stay local with his girlfriend. ugh youth is wasted on the young
- JoeRussomanno

WTF...
plenty of fish....
debt (love) or free boat ride

yeah i choose debt...

- JoeRussomanno

Fear is the path to the dark side. Much fear, I sense in you.

us who oppose trading JVR unless it reaps significant value.
- JoeRussomanno

This.
I'm in favor of any trade that improves the team. (Why would you make any other kind of trade?)

I think it speaks to his character that he wanted to develop his game more, and get an education in the process. Kid took a lot of heat for it.
- tangent_man

My issue with his choice to go to UNH is that the level of competition in the AHL is certainly higher than NCAA.

Frat parties
- phi1671

Im sure it would have been much more difficult to slam drinks and chase tail as a millionaire hockey player

Fear is the path to the dark side. Much fear, I sense in you.
- funmaster18

Yogurt: I am the keeper of a greater magic. A power known throughout the universe as the . . .
Barf: The force?!
Yogurt: No, da Schwartz!

This is all fun and all......let's trade away our talent but did anyone on this site last year talk about getting rid of JVR.......NO !!! And now with a wasted season due to injury everyone wants to ship him out so we can replace with whom? Get better defense or resign jags.....count me out....he's got size, he's strong, and has speed. That combo is hard to find.....he can be an elite player....better than a lot of other power forwards b/c of his speed....so stop with the trading of JVR and look for ways to trade for a goalie.
- huks99

There's no need to trade JvR. They also have a goalie, so no need to address that last part.

WTF...
plenty of fish....
debt (love) or free boat ride

yeah i choose debt...
- phi1671

like I said, youth is wasted on the young. But I got married in my early 20's too so... not that I'm not in love anymore, but yea the debt is piled up

Yogurt: I am the keeper of a greater magic. A power known throughout the universe as the . . .
Barf: The force?!
Yogurt: No, da Schwartz!
- phi1671

Yogurt?! I hate Yogurt! Even with strawberries!

There's no need to trade JvR. They also have a goalie, so no need to address that last part.
- Jsaquella

This may have detonated about 20 pages of opened can of worms

There's no need to trade JvR. They also have a goalie, so no need to address that last part.
- Jsaquella

I don't understand why people don't understand they have their goalie. get used to/over it already.

like I said, youth is wasted on the young. But I got married in my early 20's too so... not that I'm not in love anymore, but yea the debt is piled up

- JoeRussomanno

I was talking to a friend of mine and she overheard her grandma saying that these days you need to try as many on as you can before you settle down. Make sure you get the right fit.

Yogurt?! I hate Yogurt! Even with strawberries!
- BulliesPhan87